cap this turn?
 

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villain here is 34/21/2/200+ I've seen him get outta line mostly with continuation bets, and turn raises when he is in position, he has seen the same from me.

Preflop: Hero is BB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, MP calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (8 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, MP folds, SB calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (5.50 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, SB folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, UTG calls.

River: (13.50 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 17.50 BB

Re: cap this turn?
 

Capping the turn seems fine. I think check-calling the flop is a fairly large error though.

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Flop: I'd bet out the flop hoping UTG will raise and knock out some other players or make them pay double.

Turn as Played: When UTG 3Bets, I'd figure him most likely to have KJ, KK or JJ, maybe 33 or K8s. I might look to put in one less between the turn and river than what you did.

You mention Villain can get out of line with turn raises, but how about turn 3-bets?

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Capping the turn seems fine. I think check-calling the flop is a fairly large error though.

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Yep, c/r flop, easy turn cap.

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Capping the turn seems fine. I think check-calling the flop is a fairly large error though.

[/ QUOTE ]this is a standard flop c/r for me but I figured he would read that as a strong hand, we have quite a history.

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how bad is a river fold?

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Very.

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how bad is a river fold?

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Very.

[/ QUOTE ]I thought about it right after I posted and I just knew these were the responses I would get

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Capping the turn seems fine. I think check-calling the flop is a fairly large error though.

[/ QUOTE ]this is a standard flop c/r for me but I figured he would read that as a strong hand, we have quite a history.

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If he'll read a checkraise from you as a strong play then I don't think you should be capping the turn after he 3bets your c/r.

Rob

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Capping the turn seems fine. I think check-calling the flop is a fairly large error though.

[/ QUOTE ]this is a standard flop c/r for me but I figured he would read that as a strong hand, we have quite a history.

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If he'll read a checkraise from you as a strong play then I don't think you should be capping the turn after he 3bets your c/r.

Rob

[/ QUOTE ]well, what I meant by that is he would read a flop screwplay as a strong hand or flush draw. I don't often c/r turns so he doesn't have much of a read on what it represents from me. basically, I was just trying to mix it up by c/r'ing the turn instead of the flop to induce action.

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Capping the turn seems fine. I think check-calling the flop is a fairly large error though.

[/ QUOTE ]this is a standard flop c/r for me but I figured he would read that as a strong hand, we have quite a history.

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If he'll read a checkraise from you as a strong play then I don't think you should be capping the turn after he 3bets your c/r.

Rob

[/ QUOTE ]well, what I meant by that is he would read a flop screwplay as a strong hand or flush draw. I don't often c/r turns so he doesn't have much of a read on what it represents from me. basically, I was just trying to mix it up by c/r'ing the turn instead of the flop to induce action.

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What you're saying just doesn't make sense. He'll give you lots of action if you check-call the flop and checkraise the turn, but not if you checkraise the flop multiway with a flush draw on board? In addition, it's not a screwplay, just a checkraise.

If you think he won't give you lots of action if you checkraise the flop, consider betting. Get a few bets in on the flop and do whatever you can do maximize your action against worse hands.

Rob

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what is a screwplay then?
ty for your opinion.

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what is a screwplay then?
ty for your opinion.

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having the lead on the turn, and then checkraising.

i think if you do it on the river it's called a "sexy". i'm not 100% on that one though...

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Easyeasyeasy turn cap. I'd say his range on the turn is KJ, JJ, KK, 33, AK espeically AhKh, maybe KQ, and maybe some odd pair plus draw type hands.

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the converter is messed up, because it has you check/calling the flop.

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what is a screwplay then?
ty for your opinion.

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having the lead on the turn, and then checkraising.

i think if you do it on the river it's called a "sexy". i'm not 100% on that one though...

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the sexy is betting the flop and turn and then c/r'ing the river.