Hand from the ME of the World Poker Open
 

Level 4 (200/400)
Stacks are close approximations.
Seat 1(t30,000)
Seat 2(t8,000)
Seat 3(t20,000) (Me)
Seat 4(t75,000)
Seat 5(t26,000)
Seat 6(t12,000)
Seat 7(t40,000)
Seat 8(t8,000)

Seat 1 is the button, I am the BB(seat 3). I post 400 and am dealt...
(7h4d)

Seat 4 folds
Seat 5 (t26,000) Raises t1600, t2000 straight.
Seat 6 (t12,000) Calls t2000
Seat 7 (t40,000) Calls t2000
Seat 8 folds
Seat 1 (t30,000) Calls t2000
Seat 2 SB folds
Seat 3 (t20,000...Me) Calls t1600

flop (7s Jh 7c)

Seat 3...I check
Seat 5...Checks
Seat 6...Checks
Seat 7...Checks
Seat 1...Checks

Turn ( Qh )

Seat 3...I Check
Seat 5...Bets (t4000)
Seat 6...Raises All-in (t12000)
Seat 7...folds
Seat 1...folds
Seat 3...I Reraise All-in for a total of (t20,000)

Seat 5(t26,000) goes into the tank for about 2 minutes....and finally calls, making the comment "I just can't fold this hand."

The chips went into the pot and the dealer shoved them together, before creating a sidepot, so that had to be taken care of before we flipped our hands over and ran the river. So I had time to contemplate my demise. I say to the table, "there is absolutely no way my hand can be good."

Eventually the hands get opened, and Seat 5 opens QT, and Seat 6 opens AA?!?! This is the 4th level of the Championship event of a WPT event. Both Seat 5 and Seat 6 are touring players.

Please explain what was going on in this hand, it flew way over my head.

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Weird. Seat 5...odd spot for a huge raise. Seat 6, I guess he figured there wouldn't be a lot of calls with a 5xBB raise so he didn't reraise. He also couldn't really reraise without pot committing, so maybe his call was just trying to disguise his hand's strength. Seat 7 and Seat 1...who knows. I guess they just liked the pot odds at that point. Same for you, calling with 74o.

Flop...lots of people with overcards who whiffed and/or people trapping with premium hands. Surprised nobody took a shot at betting here.

Turn...high card lands, original raiser bets. Then the first cold-caller goes all-in. Seat 7 and Seat 1 probably now aren't calling with anything short of TPTK, KK, AA, or a boat. When you go all-in, you're basically putting yourself on one of those hands. As far as seat 5 then calling the all-in, that's pretty ridiculous for a touring pro. I guess he thought he had some really strong reads on you guys.

Weird hand, allright. Hard to believe nobody took a shot on the flop after calling that big of a preflop raise. I'm sure you were looking to check-raise the flop, too.

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seat 5 smokes crack. . . crack inhibits your ability to make rational decisions (so they say).

Honestly. . . I have no idea what he was thinking. That's awful.

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I'll have to agree that this hand played out very strange for a top level event. It seems you were the only one in the hand that had a clue.

As to what they were thinking?

Seat 5 "Turned top pair and everyone checked the flop, great!"
Seat 6 "Yay action with my overpair and nobody seems to have a 7! Slowplaying was a great idea!"
You "Wow these guys are tools. Thanks for the chips, boys!"

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Level 4 (200/400)
Stacks are close approximations.
Seat 1(t30,000)
Seat 2(t8,000)
Seat 3(t20,000) (Me)
Seat 4(t75,000)
Seat 5(t26,000)
Seat 6(t12,000)
Seat 7(t40,000)
Seat 8(t8,000)

Seat 1 is the button, I am the BB(seat 3). I post 400 and am dealt...
(7h4d)

Seat 4 folds
Seat 5 (t26,000) Raises t1600, t2000 straight.
Seat 6 (t12,000) Calls t2000
Seat 7 (t40,000) Calls t2000
Seat 8 folds
Seat 1 (t30,000) Calls t2000
Seat 2 SB folds
Seat 3 (t20,000...Me) Calls t1600

flop (7s Jh 7c)

Seat 3...I check
Seat 5...Checks
Seat 6...Checks
Seat 7...Checks
Seat 1...Checks

Turn ( Qh )

Seat 3...I Check
Seat 5...Bets (t4000)
Seat 6...Raises All-in (t12000)
Seat 7...folds
Seat 1...folds
Seat 3...I Reraise All-in for a total of (t20,000)

Seat 5(t26,000) goes into the tank for about 2 minutes....and finally calls, making the comment "I just can't fold this hand."

The chips went into the pot and the dealer shoved them together, before creating a sidepot, so that had to be taken care of before we flipped our hands over and ran the river. So I had time to contemplate my demise. I say to the table, "there is absolutely no way my hand can be good."

Eventually the hands get opened, and Seat 5 opens QT, and Seat 6 opens AA?!?! This is the 4th level of the Championship event of a WPT event. Both Seat 5 and Seat 6 are touring players.

Please explain what was going on in this hand, it flew way over my head.

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seat 5 may be a touring player, but it sure looks like he played this hand very badly. He open raised 5xBB with QTo and then calls push with top pair medium kicker on a paired board. He played this very badly.

seat 6 also played very badly, slow playing his A's preflop, then checking the flop. His play postflop was not as bad as his play preflop, but both pre and post were pretty bad.

I think this goes to show you that even some of the touring players donk it up every now and then. I hope your hand held.

These players any we know?

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What was the river card?

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What was the river card?

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What was the river card?

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christ what does it matter


this is worse play than you would see at the 40k guaranteed tourney on party and that's saying a lot.

i don't really like your call preflop, despite pot odds and everything 74 is absolute RUBBBBISH.


seems have worked out fine though....

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seat 5 may be a touring player, but it sure looks like he played this hand very badly. He open raised 5xBB with QTo and then calls push with top pair medium kicker on a paired board. He played this very badly.



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he didn't just call 1 push. . . he called 2! How is that possible?

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Both Seat 5 and Seat 6 are touring players.


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Does that necesitate that they are winning players?

Its seems not to.....

ImS0Lucky posted a while ago that just playing good tight poker seems to work at the $10K events he has played in, because everyone is busy making moves with marginal hands, its easy to get paid off....

Regards,
Woodguy

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First, pre-flop, I don't think I like your call simply because you don't have the implied odds. I believe you'll flop two pair or better (or some type of pair/draw combo) somewhere in the 4-5% range. I would only make that call if I had at least 20 to 1 implied odds. Beyond that nothing looks too off pre-flop although I'm sure seat 6 was hoping to have the hand re-raised. This would particularly be true if seat 5 was laggy. Seat 6 could be hoping to trap someone making a squeeze play.

I think I'd lead out there if I flopped trips a good percentage of the time expecting some action from a pair of 8s or better. On the flop, seat's 5 action makes sense. I'm assuming seat 6 is looking at this as a way ahead/way behind hand so he checks hoping to continue the trap or see how things develop as cheaply as possible.

On the turn, the initial bet from seat 5 obviously makes sense now that he makes top pair. The seat 6 push also makes sense as he's probably not too worried about 5 having a 7 and is only behind JJ and QQ. 5 may or may not bet with JJ or QQ here - possible but probably unlikely as everyone showed a lot of weakness on the flop. So he's probably putting 5 squarely on KQ, AQ, QJ maybe even a semi-bluff with AK or KT. Your push makes sense. When it gets back to 5 he's getting nearly 2.9 to 1 odds requring only 26% pot equity to make the call about right. I say only because it appears that he's getting good odds but he's got to think he's lucky to have 5 outs so he's like 10% to improve here and has nowhere near the necessary equity.

My conclusion: seat 6s action makes perfect sense but seat 5 way overplayed his hand.

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"Rebuy!"

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Giga,

"Please explain what was going on in this hand, it flew way over my head. "

Tourney players are donkeys, many of whom have no concept of the true degree of variance in these things.

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Seat 6 misplayed his aces but not badly enough to say something like 'OMFG' over. At least he has some rational thought.

I'd like Seat 5's name and site sn's, please.

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is it possible that seat 5, being a tourning pro, was thinking this?? "I just heard of a great sidegame that i could clean up in, lets try to double up or go play some easy money poker". I know i played in one local event that had sidegames going where one rather repected area player founf out the game was soft and immediately threw the tourney to go play the more profitable sidegame. Other than that, the rest of you seemed to play it ok-ish.

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Both Seat 5 and Seat 6 are touring players.


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Does that necesitate that they are winning players?

Its seems not to.....

ImS0Lucky posted a while ago that just playing good tight poker seems to work at the $10K events he has played in, because everyone is busy making moves with marginal hands, its easy to get paid off....

Regards,
Woodguy

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I believe this. Especially since there has been a massive influx of part-timers who have seen the highlight shows (WPT, ESPN) and think making massive bluffs and marginal calls is something that should occur every orbit.

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Both Seat 5 and Seat 6 are touring players.


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Does that necesitate that they are winning players?

Its seems not to.....

ImS0Lucky posted a while ago that just playing good tight poker seems to work at the $10K events he has played in, because everyone is busy making moves with marginal hands, its easy to get paid off....

Regards,
Woodguy

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I believe this. Especially since there has been a massive influx of part-timers who have seen the highlight shows (WPT, ESPN) and think making massive bluffs and marginal calls is something that should occur every orbit.

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Man I gotta get my BR up to start playing in these things, before the party ends. Just $96,200 or so more to go.

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Does that necesitate that they are winning players?

Its seems not to.....

ImS0Lucky posted a while ago that just playing good tight poker seems to work at the $10K events he has played in, because everyone is busy making moves with marginal hands, its easy to get paid off....

Regards,
Woodguy

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Paul Phillips mentioned in his blog a while ago how he finally noticed that he had the most chips at the end of day 1 when he pretty much just played the cards he was dealt.

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First, pre-flop, I don't think I like your call simply because you don't have the implied odds. I believe you'll flop two pair or better (or some type of pair/draw combo) somewhere in the 4-5% range. I would only make that call if I had at least 20 to 1 implied odds. Beyond that nothing looks too off pre-flop although I'm sure seat 6 was hoping to have the hand re-raised. This would particularly be true if seat 5 was laggy. Seat 6 could be hoping to trap someone making a squeeze play.

I think I'd lead out there if I flopped trips a good percentage of the time expecting some action from a pair of 8s or better. On the flop, seat's 5 action makes sense. I'm assuming seat 6 is looking at this as a way ahead/way behind hand so he checks hoping to continue the trap or see how things develop as cheaply as possible.

On the turn, the initial bet from seat 5 obviously makes sense now that he makes top pair. The seat 6 push also makes sense as he's probably not too worried about 5 having a 7 and is only behind JJ and QQ. 5 may or may not bet with JJ or QQ here - possible but probably unlikely as everyone showed a lot of weakness on the flop. So he's probably putting 5 squarely on KQ, AQ, QJ maybe even a semi-bluff with AK or KT. Your push makes sense. When it gets back to 5 he's getting nearly 2.9 to 1 odds requring only 26% pot equity to make the call about right. I say only because it appears that he's getting good odds but he's got to think he's lucky to have 5 outs so he's like 10% to improve here and has nowhere near the necessary equity.

My conclusion: seat 6s action makes perfect sense but seat 5 way overplayed his hand.

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what hand does he have 5 outs against? He's got either 2 outs or a few chop outs, or he's ahead.

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This hand is a perfect illustration of how Chris Moneymaker
won the WSOP. Take this hand and compound it over a week and anyone can win a big event. No disrespect intended towards original poster.

Bruce

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Can't say I like the pre-flop play of 6. Cold calling 5 BB's for 1/7 of your stack is ludicrous...and look what happened...worst nightmare coming true. 3 more callers. I don't believe he has enough chips to be coldcalling/trapping pre-flop here. It's too fishy. Seat 7, seat 1...great odds...position...who knows. Post flop--can't see anything unusual...someone's slowplaying, and no one wants to get 5-7000 chased away by a re-raise all-in, everyone's playing a little cautious. This is a great flop and turn for AA, only behind to JJ,QQ,or 7x. Think he probably makes his move on the turn if someone doesn't do it for him...worst nightmare for him when you re-raise all-in, but no way to get away from this hand if i'm Seat 6. Seat 5 is off in left field, maybe his wife's havin a baby, or his dog just died, who knows, awful play IMO.

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Seat 5's preflop raise was bad and the turn call was worse.

Seat 6's preflop play was fine and pretty standard. He could also have reraised. I don't know about his turn play. It is a big pot and kind of hard to fold an overpair.

The ppreflop call of the 5xBB raise multiway for 1/10 of his stack with 74o was a typical Gigabet play. Most people would fold. The bad play of his opponents perhaps justifies it.

I prefer Gigabet's checking the flop OOP to betting out with trips in a 5-way pot.

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Eventually the hands get opened, and Seat 5 opens QT, and Seat 6 opens AA?!?! This is the 4th level of the Championship event of a WPT event. Both Seat 5 and Seat 6 are touring players.

Please explain what was going on in this hand, it flew way over my head.

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Was Seat 5 Robert Varkonyi?

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Please explain what was going on in this hand, it flew way over my head.

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Mike Caro calls it the law of loose wiring.

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If seat 5 played that hand so bad, it might be safe to assume he's a bad player and seat 6 might know that. I don't think seat 6 play was that bad, if he thought he could get seat 5 HU in position. I guess he thought the table was tighter than it is.

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If seat 5 played that hand so bad, it might be safe to assume he's a bad player and seat 6 might know that. I don't think seat 6 play was that bad, if he thought he could get seat 5 HU in position. I guess he thought the table was tighter than it is.

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Seat 6's flat call was OK. He just got a bad result. He was hoping someone would reraise. Otherwise, it is not bad if no one else calls or one additional player calls. He may have had a read on Seat 5 that Seat 5 had a weak hand and would not call a reraise, but would commit it he made some kind of pair or draw. With the table playing as loose as it appears, he may have thought there was a good chance for a reraise. I think seat 6 played this fine.

This looks like a $20 online MTT with a 5xBB raise and 4 callers. I wonder what everyone else was calling with.

I won't question Gigabet's call, as it is his style. I wonder how often you make trips or something or can steal from 4 players OOP. I might call with 76s.

Seat 5 is described as a "tour player" rather than a tour pro. Maybe he won some 6 figure prize online or live and thinks he is a tour pro. Or maybe he is wealthy and can afford to play in these tournaments.

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Please explain what was going on in this hand, it flew way over my head.


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It's called "Ka-ching." <font color="white"> color me up please. </font>

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They didn't put you on your hand, AND, they didn't put each other on the hand they held either. I'm thinking, rookie mistake, but by your comments, they aren't rookies. So, I'm stumped too.

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They didn't put you on your hand, AND, they didn't put each other on the hand they held either. I'm thinking, rookie mistake, but by your comments, they aren't rookies. So, I'm stumped too.

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I guess I am a rookie, but if there is 10K in the pot and I have 10K left, I am not folding AA on a QJ77 board. I guess that guy was a real fish for not figuring someone called 5xBB with 74o.

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If this was anyone but Gigabet everyone would give the ol "fold preflop" one-liner. People either need to get off his dick or be more consistent with their replies. Both preferably.

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seat 5 had a worthless $20,000 block that he wanted to use to gain some REAL chips, which he would use with his above average skill to easily win the tournament. He figured he had about a 5% chance of winning the hand, which makes his call correct. After all, you were at risk of ruin while he was not, why NOT risk 4/5 his stack?

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seat 5 had a worthless $20,000 block that he wanted to use to gain some REAL chips, which he would use with his above average skill to easily win the tournament. He figured he had about a 5% chance of winning the hand, which makes his call correct. After all, you were at risk of ruin while he was not, why NOT risk 4/5 his stack?

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Very good point! I can't believe that I missed that.

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The ppreflop call of the 5xBB raise multiway for 1/10 of his stack with 74o was a typical Gigabet play. Most people would fold. The bad play of his opponents perhaps justifies it.

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I was thinking that maybe the bad play of his opponents actually would have foiled whatever bluff he had planned, and was thus made the preflop call not-so-good in retrospect.

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If this was anyone but Gigabet everyone would give the ol "fold preflop" one-liner. People either need to get off his dick or be more consistent with their replies. Both preferably.

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There's some validity to this, but the reality is that this is Gigabet's style. He's a known player with a known style and this play isn't out of character for him. A lot of top players who play the circuit of real tournaments will do this occasionally just to vary their play so other people have a harder time reading them. In this case, I think if Giga is trying to find a spot where he's willing to take a flier on a hand that might show his opponents that he's willing to play any two cards when the situation presents itself, the pot odds from a 5-way pot with 25 BBs in it preflop is a pretty tasty reward for getting a flop like this.

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If this was anyone but Gigabet everyone would give the ol "fold preflop" one-liner. People either need to get off his dick or be more consistent with their replies. Both preferably.

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There's some validity to this, but the reality is that this is Gigabet's style. He's a known player with a known style and this play isn't out of character for him. A lot of top players who play the circuit of real tournaments will do this occasionally just to vary their play so other people have a harder time reading them. In this case, I think if Giga is trying to find a spot where he's willing to take a flier on a hand that might show his opponents that he's willing to play any two cards when the situation presents itself, the pot odds from a 5-way pot with 25 BBs in it preflop is a pretty tasty reward for getting a flop like this.

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Granted, he has some implied odds 5-way to hit trips in this situation. However, I don't know if he anyone but Gigabet would call here. Obviously, Gigabet is successful playing as he does, so know one has the nerve to post "fold preflop".

Raising, reraising, limping behind, or calling a raise with deep money with 74s are more common plays.

This kind of play certainly makes Gigabet harder to read, and sometimes wins big pots, as here.

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Ok , since you asked...this is what is going on here...

Seat 4 folds, not an entirely insignificant thing, as the big stacks disappearance from the hand opens it up for other people to be aggreesive. For example, seat 5 may have been frustrated with seat 4's constant raising ahead of him, and is all too ready, willing, and able to be the aggressor himself. Again I wasn't there but this could be what was happening... So he raises it up with QT, fully expecting to steal the blinds and move along...but wait, as gigabet is in the bb there is very little chance that seat 5 really believes he will in fact win the blinds, so he instantly regrets his decision to open raise in this spot, and begins worrying whether or if he can flop something or outplay gigabet when he eventually calls the raise....

Now seat 6 with a shortish stack calls the raise, a strange thing in itself from relatively early postion AGAINST an ep raiser. This is either a wishful type of call hoping he will flop something really good agianst what will now be a host of players, but I would interpret this as a pretty big hand looking for someone else to try a squeeze play anabling her to double up and more with something real big.

Nonetheless, the 40k chip stack in seat 7 figures "what the hell", everyone else is gonna be callin anyway, so i may as well, despite the fact that I only have 4-8 off suit...seat 8 being short , having nothing, and no fold equity, opts out,...then the button , getitng a million-1 odds and in postion, may as well call with his 2-6 off...The sb faces a similar problem to seat 8, as even a complete of the raise damages his stack and he aint getting anyone to fold, so he passes.....gigabet, being gigabet, also getting 10000000-1 and probably making similar reads as I just made, calls, knowing that he can make a pretty easy interpreatation of how the flop and turn helped or hurt the participants, and who knows, maybe he flops something cool.....

So the flop comes 7-7-J rainbow..gigabet first to act really cant afford to bet and lose everyone ,and there is a good enough chance that someone hit a jack or had a small pair or who would be willing to bluff at it that he can go for some kind of check raise or check call or a number of things...I doubt that leading out would be good....seat 5 is kind of sick to his stomach as he just wanted to steal the blinds or maybe face one opponent,...he would like to make a contunation bet but there are too many people in the pot to expect to get through them so he says f it Ill just check and watch what happens....Seat 6 who was hoping for a big pot, got what he asked for in some way, but he is either way ahead or way behind here...he has committed himself to this excursion, so he can either bet and hope someone has a Jack, or check and hope someone bluffs or has a Jack or a pair....so he checks...everyone else has nothing or a 7, so everyone checks behind...(gigabet now rooting for a Jack so he can kill himself).


Turn comes a Qh putting 2 hearts out there....

gigabet checks again...now I myself would not give a free card to anyone who might have 2 hearts out there, but again if gig really wants to represent a bluff when he does eventually bet this hand, checking is prbably the best way to do it...gig feels the tension at the table and really believes someone is gonna be forced to take a shot at this pot even if they dont have anything....

So now our original raiser cant take it anymore...he cuaght his top pair and no one has bet yet...there is just no way in his mind that he could be behind...thank god he caught a queen...so away we go,,,he is gonna bet this, and as noone has anything, he is gonna take it down..so he reaches down for some chips and throws out 4000...he didnt really count what was in the pot, or whether he was betting too little or whatever, because in his mind it doesnt matter....he caught top pair, no one else has [censored], and whatevr he bets is gonna be either enough to get folds, or small enough to get people with worse hands to call, either way, he feels fine...

Seat 6 pushes allin for the last 12k of his stack...he EITHER, had been slowplaying an overpair and finally has enough in the pot where he can shove it in and win a big pot..OR....he has a flush draw or a smaller pair, interprets seat 5s bet as a very weak bluff and can either get him to fold or perhaps beat him anyway after everyone else folds...

Seat 7 and seat 1 obv fold....

gigabet interprets the action pretty much as I have, and goes allin, fully expecting:
1.Seat 5 to realize he is beat, be happy he only led out for 4k and fold instantly,...and...

2.Seat 6 to have an overpair or some other pair or perhaps a flush draw , in either case making gig a huge facorite, so he pushes.


Now it is on seat 5...who basically says "HOLY [censored] [censored] WHAT THE HELL DID I DO?". Now begins a very common process among many poker players where he begins to create a way for him to call...this has been a very tense hand, alot has been going on, and if there is anyway to be a participannt right to the end, he is gonna do it,,,,so first he tries to calculate pot odds...its what everyone does whether they can do it or not, and its also a good way to stall , contemplating whther they should have ever player poker at all....he cant really count all of the chips in there, including what will be a sidepot...he just knows that its a lot...i mean its ALOT!!!!!... Then he looks at his cards and sees he has top pair...and then begins to invent all these ways that top pair is good...

"ok first of all gigabet is an idiot..he [censored] reraises allin in step 5 higher tourneys with q-2 KNOWING he is way behind...he bluffed off half his chips on the bubble of bellagio 5 diamond against JJ who obviously had him beat,,,this kid is just a plain maniac and he could have any number of secind best hands here....and the small stack?..[censored] him...he got involved in a pot with a shortish stack and now is obviously making a big move at the pot...

I know that they COULD have me beat, but there is way too much in there(whatever it is) for me to concede that point...and also, i am afraid i would have to kill myself if i fold and gig turns over 4-4 and seat 6 turns over a flush draw...so I call.


Darrell then announces that his hand cant be good, fully expecting seat 5 to turn over A7 or JJ. He is mistaken.

This is what I think is going on here.


sheets

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Seat 6 has a problem preflop. Flat calling for 1/6 of his stack looks a little suspicious, but making a small reraise looks more like AA. If he pushes or reraises half his stack after the 5xBB early position raise, he will probably just win the pot.

I don't know how the table was playing. If preflop raises were taking the pot and/or preflop raisers were taking the pot with continuation bets, then the early position 5xBB raise with QTo may be OK. The table looks looser from this hand.

Seat 5 obviously interpretted no flop bets as meaning no one had anything rather than two players were slow playing. He probably figures he has pot odds, there is some chance he is ahead, and he has some chance of winning against an overpair or higher kicker. There is a flush draw out and someone probably has atleast a gutshot. Seat 6 could have a lot of different types of hands. However, Gigabet almost certainly has a fairly strong made hand. Seat 6 may have been influenced by Gigabet's reputation. However, he cannot be bluffing here.

Preflop, seat 7 and the button are probably calling partly because of position in a multiway pot.

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thank you for a very amusing yet informative post. You have brightened my day as I now have a new pair of pants after pissing myself from laughing so hard after reading this. The funny part is everything you said is so true.

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They checked the paired board instead of probing for set, etc. Then the cat with the queen seriously gave odds with a 10BB raise, and started the party.