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Tonight's the first of 4 weeks of WSOP Circuit events on ESPN, starting with 2 shows of the event at the Harrah's in New Orleans. Maybe Norman Chad has come up with some new lines for his various marriages.

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This'll be fun stuff.

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is aba20 in this? TomHimself hinted at it.

blogger Nordberg is Peter Feldman

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nordberg pwns.


edit: there's aba, i believe.

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Haha, "kinda like my first marriage Lon".
Go Cuse! T-stone regular?

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whos aba??

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whos aba??

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i believe aba is brian townsend

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nordberg pwns.


edit: there's aba, i believe.

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which one is aba20?

edit - just saw OSU's post - thanks

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i have a hard time believing a player of abas caliber would open limp QQ there pre.

then again whatever

his profile says hes a grad student from santa barbara named brian sooooo.. yeah

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Hungarian wife...damn!

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New drinking game. Every time the side bet between Gavin and that other guy is mentioned take a drink.

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How tight do you have to be to fold top pair in an unraised pot?

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Aba, do you remember your chip count / the blinds on your bustout hand?

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OMG did you guys know Norm Chad was divorced?

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"my third divorce lawyer was named flash and it did not work out well"

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A7s calling an all in... really? It's one thing to push all-in when short stacked, but call? Wow

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WTF at this Farha protege....what a giner.

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Anybody else think that TT fold was bad or just me? I'm no NL expert.

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there were two absolute microstacks at the table. that HAD to play a part.

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the AJ vs. KK play was a similar vein of thinking. Everyone else at the table was a very short stack when Nordberg had around 300k. gavin was exploiting the payout increases multiple times.

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What do you guys think of Gavin's strategy of calling short stack all-ins with absolute trash. My thinking has always been that I at least had to have something half-way decent. The way it worked out, he gave some players some extra life and drained his stack a bit.

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I missed stack sizes but that 44 preflop all-in call seemed terrible; am I missing something?

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whenever ivey makes a joke it busts me up.

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"I don't know anybody who plays every hand perfectly...except for Phil Hellmuth."

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were most players drinking at this table? damn. they're playing like it's a home game for 1/2 a million.

oh yeah, and shut up and this stupid side bet. we get.

bwana

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the AJ vs. KK play was a similar vein of thinking. Everyone else at the table was a very short stack when Nordberg had around 300k. gavin was exploiting the payout increases multiple times.



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I understand the thinking here, but do you really want to tangle with the only guy that can really hurt you? Especially when he seems to be running over the table. This seems similar to a hand Phil Gordon mentioned playing earlier in the World Series. He had Ace King and called a big all in bet. He could have folded and continued running over the table, but instead he got caught up in the moment and called only to lose half his chips.

The main lesson is that when things are going well and you are winning lots of small pots, why play a big one unless you have the nuts?

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the AJ vs. KK play was a similar vein of thinking. Everyone else at the table was a very short stack when Nordberg had around 300k. gavin was exploiting the payout increases multiple times.



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I understand the thinking here, but do you really want to tangle with the only guy that can really hurt you? Especially when he seems to be running over the table. This seems similar to a hand Phil Gordon mentioned playing earlier in the World Series. He had Ace King and called a big all in bet. He could have folded and continued running over the table, but instead he got caught up in the moment and called only to lose half his chips.

The main lesson is that when things are going well and you are winning lots of small pots, why play a big one unless you have the nuts?

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Huge difference between calling an allin and raising allin. Gavin's play here was completely standard.

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Huge difference between calling an allin and raising allin. Gavin's play here was completely standard.

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Gavin said afterwards that he made a mistake in this pot, that there was no real need to try and run Peter (the only guy that had the chips to hurt him) off his hand when he was so successfully chipping up in smaller pots and taking races against shorties for small percentages of his stack.

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so i heard there was some kind of side bet with gavin smith and prescott?

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Decent episode. Like others have said, we didn't to hear about the "side bet" every 2 or 3 hands. Also, did they need to make the dealer part of the show? Showing an human interest profile is fine, but like the side bet they kept refering the Darryl the dealer every few hands.

That QQ limp hand may have been one of the worst televised poker hands of all time.

Haven't heard anyone mention this yet but several players (Gavin, Allie etc) were drinking at the table. Wonder if this had any effect on the outcome. Would certain hands be played differently? (ex. Gavin's AJs hand, and 44 heads up hand, Allie's T9o hand) Probably not but just throwing it out there.

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Decent episode. Like others have said, we didn't to hear about the "side bet" every 2 or 3 hands. Also, did they need to make the dealer part of the show? Showing an human interest profile is fine, but like the side bet they kept refering the Darryl the dealer every few hands.

That QQ limp hand may have been one of the worst televised poker hands of all time.

Haven't heard anyone mention this yet but several players (Gavin, Allie etc) were drinking at the table. Wonder if this had any effect on the outcome. Would certain hands be played differently? (ex. Gavin's AJs hand, and 44 heads up hand, Allie's T9o hand) Probably not but just throwing it out there.

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allie had a beer, but to me it looked like gavin was drinking a diet pepsi bottle. i could be wrong though, can anyone with tivo/dvr confirm?

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I did see Gavin drink from a Diet Pepsi bottle at one point, although he could've been drinking other stuff too.

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this episode was all-around awful imo. the poker had some questionable plays: open limping queens and then checking the ace high flop? all-in over the top of gavin smith with 10-6? it was unbelievable how much time they wasted showing scenes of the destruction in new orleans. i understand that the city is still rebuilding, but it's a poker show. give it a few minutes of coverage and then focus on the action. we also don't need to hear about the side bet every hand, or norman chad making some ridiculous joke about his third divorced ex-wife.

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Gavin wasn't drinking until about half way through heads up.

I don't remember much about Allie drinking or not drinking during play but I did see him in the one shot drinking a beer.

Dana was pretty well in the bag but not really a factor in the tournament.

Allie's T9o hand was fine... Allie's T6s call all in was odd, and a bad play imo. Gavin's AJs hand (he was not drinking at that point) was an ok play but I think he could have played it better by smooth calling my raises and trying to push me around post flop.

The 44 hand was again a bit strange but not terrible and I think just a few hands into heads up he thought maybe I would fold a ton of hands there. Again he was not drinking at that point.

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Thanks for clearing that up Peter.
Congrats on your big win.

Another question on the 44 hand. What range of hands would you have called with here? I was suprised that Gavin wasn't trying to play smaller pots. I'm not sure why he'd want to play such a big pot preflop with 44 instead of trying to outplay you after the flop. I guess like you said, he thought you'd fold alot. You seemed to be playing tight from the TV coverage.

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Did Prescott seem like a puffed up a*hole to anyone else? [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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I've played with Allie in a home game. He's not a bad guy or anything. He's born into money. His dad used to own the AA baseball team in Memphis.

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What do you guys think of Gavin's strategy of calling short stack all-ins with absolute trash. My thinking has always been that I at least had to have something half-way decent. The way it worked out, he gave some players some extra life and drained his stack a bit.

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Gavin Smith's big stack strategy was great, IMO. He's got a majority of the chips in play and 4-5 opponents trying to fold into a higher finishing position. He should be raising a lot more than usual to build his stack with little resistance, which he did.

Calling the all-in reraises from the shorties is also a key part of his strategy. The other players want to survive, so calling all-ins shows them that if they play back at him, their tourney life is on the line. The call usually represents a tiny portion (1/10 or less) of Gavin's chips.

His only mistake was re-raising all-in with AJ when a the guy who eventually won, had open-raised from EP. He was the only player deep enough to hurt him and had been very quiet to that point (at least from what they showed on TV). That raise was a bit ambitious, IMO.

Other than that, he put on a big-stack clinic.

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Hey ESPN guess what?

I don't give a [censored] [censored] about the dealer's destroyed home in New Orleans. Show me more poker.

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I've played with Allie in a home game. He's not a bad guy or anything. He's born into money. His dad used to own the AA baseball team in Memphis.

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I'm not sure it's the same person but there's an Allie Prescott that was involved with the Redbirds and currently works for the Memphis Grizzlies.

After reading this I'm pretty sure it's the same fella.

http://www.bizjournals.com/memphis/s...9/daily18.html