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Did Gabe Kaplan seriously just take a shot at Mike Sexton?

Gabe Kaplan??

GTFO.

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Also, was DN just doing what he was bitching about Mike Matusow doing in an earlier episode, and talking about what the people in the hand had while it was still in progress?

That ain't cool.

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Esfandiari BUSTO?!

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Esfandiari may be the real fish in this game. Too bad cuz I like his style but he's playing against some real high stakes players here who won't just fold to his raises.

Did Chamanara play a hand tonight? I don't think so.

Matusow = donkey. It must be killing him that not only is his need to borrow money for these stakes being aired publicly on the show but that the other players would pay cash to keep him at the table. That is not a good rep to have.

I'm glad DN finally won a big pot because I think he will really open his game now. He was playing much tighter than the 1st season.

I really like how Jen Harmon changed gears. Shows me what a true pro she is.

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Matusow = donkey. It must be killing him that not only is his need to borrow money for these stakes being aired publicly on the show but that the other players would pay cash to keep him at the table. That is not a good rep to have.



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It seems that people start to use that against mike nowadays. I believe it was 2 weeks ago where ted forrest, and mike were on the same table. Ted being already eliminated called mikes all in with AJ Suited. After mike won with KK he made a comment how ted was a bad player, teds comeback was very simple making fun of how he lends money to mike. Daniel does it too as a comeback, has to hurt him real bad.

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Esfandiari may be the real fish in this game. Too bad cuz I like his style but he's playing against some real high stakes players here who won't just fold to his raises.


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Yeah, he needs to move back down to where they respect his raises.

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Esfandiari may be the real fish in this game. Too bad cuz I like his style but he's playing against some real high stakes players here who won't just fold to his raises.


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Yeah, he needs to move back down to where they respect his raises.

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It's not a matter of respect. At these stakes with most of these players - the ones with lots of high stakes experience - it's harder to push them off a hand and there's a better than average chance that they will come back over the top with a bluff, just as Harmon did. Esfandiari has a good game but from what I see (and I'll grant that I'm not seeing very many hands) he isn't in the same class as some of the others. Same for Laak. Same for Grinder. Very good players but not yet at the level of a Chan, Negraneu, Harmon, Greenstein, Forrest and some others.

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Matusow = donkey. It must be killing him that not only is his need to borrow money for these stakes being aired publicly on the show but that the other players would pay cash to keep him at the table. That is not a good rep to have.



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It seems that people start to use that against mike nowadays. I believe it was 2 weeks ago where ted forrest, and mike were on the same table. Ted being already eliminated called mikes all in with AJ Suited. After mike won with KK he made a comment how ted was a bad player, teds comeback was very simple making fun of how he lends money to mike. Daniel does it too as a comeback, has to hurt him real bad.

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Yep, it was 2 weeks ago. I commented on it in another thread. I doubt that they are lying since Mike hasn't said anything about it and the look on his face with Daniel said it last month told the whole story. It's got to be so embarrassing to be a player that people will pay to have stay in the game. And then for him to donk off $40k on a wild ass river call was simply the icing on the cake. I've heard lots of stories about the Big Game players licking their chops when Mike wants to play and I remember last year that they were rooting for him to go much further at the final table of the ME because they knew they'd get his money at their cash game.

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Esfandiari may be the real fish in this game. Too bad cuz I like his style but he's playing against some real high stakes players here who won't just fold to his raises.


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Yeah, he needs to move back down to where they respect his raises.

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hahahahaha

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Esfandiari has a good game but from what I see (and I'll grant that I'm not seeing very many hands) he isn't in the same class as some of the others. Same for Laak.

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I think Esfandiari and Laak have both looked pretty good so far.

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Isn't Negreanu lending Brunson 100K for a future promise of Bellagio chips the same as Negreanu taking 100K off the table ("going south" as the Deeb incident in season 1?)

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Isn't Negreanu lending Brunson 100K for a future promise of Bellagio chips the same as Negreanu taking 100K off the table ("going south" as the Deeb incident in season 1?)

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Wow, yeah. That never occurred to me. Technically he is taking chips off the table, I guess.

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Isn't Negreanu lending Brunson 100K for a future promise of Bellagio chips the same as Negreanu taking 100K off the table ("going south" as the Deeb incident in season 1?)

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Wow, yeah. That never occurred to me. Technically he is taking chips off the table, I guess.

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There was discussion of this at the table but it got cut off.

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Isn't Negreanu lending Brunson 100K for a future promise of Bellagio chips the same as Negreanu taking 100K off the table ("going south" as the Deeb incident in season 1?)

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Wow, yeah. That never occurred to me. Technically he is taking chips off the table, I guess.

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There was discussion of this at the table but it got cut off.

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he asked the table if he could play 100k behind and they said yes i believe. So im guessing if he went all in, the 100k would be added.

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good episode. i don't think esfandiari is a bad player, he's just obviously playing over his bankroll. when the table was going to pay a grand each for mike to stay he said he couldn't afford it, and you could see on that hand where he had queens after he rebought he was distressed about possibly going broke twice. he's a good player but the stakes are obviously getting to him, which isn't good. i'm sure UB is backing at least part of him though, they had a commercial on when i watched it.

i don't get how matusow calls 40 grand on the river without even hesitating with top pair and the worst kicker. i guess now i see why everyone wanted to pay for him to stay. and it looks like next week he gets beat up even more from what daniel says. i feel bad for the guy, hes a good player but it seems like he has some problems with knowing when to quit.

i don't see how it's the same as taking chips off the table. he lent the money to brunson, what does it matter how brunson pays him back? that's between him and brunson. i think the only way the casino could have an issue is if they are saying that he couldnt give chips to another player at the table (like in rounders when they are in AC), but otherwise i'm not sure if it's the same as going south. maybe someone could explain.

also, who's the new canadian guy whos playing next week?

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Isn't Negreanu lending Brunson 100K for a future promise of Bellagio chips the same as Negreanu taking 100K off the table ("going south" as the Deeb incident in season 1?)

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Wow, yeah. That never occurred to me. Technically he is taking chips off the table, I guess.

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There was discussion of this at the table but it got cut off.

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From what I could hear, Daniel said something about having 100k behind, so I'm sure he was trying to make it clear to everyone that he wasn't taking chips off the table.

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i found it amusing to see Harmen with that glass of beer i wonder if it was just part of a ploy to change her table image or if she really was feeling the booze a little.

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i found it amusing to see Harmen with that glass of beer i wonder if it was just part of a ploy to change her table image or if she really was feeling the booze a little.

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she is very small and didnt she have a liver or was it a kidney transplant? I bet she doesnt drink much.

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Those massages Antonio and Todd received sure were unlucky.

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It seems to me people are being a bit results-oriented. If Antonio's bluffs had worked and Jen's hadn't, we'd all be singing a different tune.

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It seems to me people are being a bit results-oriented. If Antonio's bluffs had worked and Jen's hadn't, we'd all be singing a different tune.

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One of Antonio's bluffs did work- his KJ vs. AT on the QQx flop.

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Those massages Antonio and Todd received sure were unlucky.

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Very true. I am surprised that Kaplan didn't go back to this after Brunson got stacked, especially since he was talking about it right before. Also, that all-in was straight party 25NL.

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It seems to me people are being a bit results-oriented. If Antonio's bluffs had worked and Jen's hadn't, we'd all be singing a different tune.

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fine line between looking like a genius and a retard.

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also, who's the new canadian guy whos playing next week?

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Brad Booth

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also, who's the new canadian guy whos playing next week?

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Brad Booth

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Botoh came into a lot of money just after playing in the High Stakes game. He cashed for over $300,000 at a WPT evemt at Mandalay BAy.

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"A9 vs A8. Flop: 889, perfect cold-deck."

Uhhmmm...

STFU STFU STFU STFU STFU

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Those massages Antonio and Todd received sure were unlucky.

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Very true. I am surprised that Kaplan didn't go back to this after Brunson got stacked, especially since he was talking about it right before. Also, that all-in was straight party 25NL.

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yeah i agree. i think the all-in was what made negreanu call in the first place.

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Esfandiari may be the real fish in this game.

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Funny how losing with aces repeatedly can make someone look like a fish.

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seriously, brunson, wtf w/ak...?

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really like how Jen Harmon changed gears. Shows me what a true pro she is.

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That looked like Jen Harmon last night. I've always heard about her unrelenting aggression in cash games. I think it was just a matter of her getting used to no limit. She said here during the first season she wasn't really comfortable playing no-limit. Last night she looked comfortable.

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Jennifer was kicking major assatation last night. She could use some more practice stacking her chips though [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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Isn't Negreanu lending Brunson 100K for a future promise of Bellagio chips the same as Negreanu taking 100K off the table ("going south" as the Deeb incident in season 1?)

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Wow, yeah. That never occurred to me. Technically he is taking chips off the table, I guess.

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Didn't Negreanu buy in for like $10 million (obvious exageration)? If he had everyone covered by like a bazillion dollars, does it really change his effective stack size? Also, do we know he took it out of his chips on the table or out of his pockets, which clearly are lined with gold.

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really like how Jen Harmon changed gears. Shows me what a true pro she is.

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That looked like Jen Harmon last night. I've always heard about her unrelenting aggression in cash games. I think it was just a matter of her getting used to no limit. She said here during the first season she wasn't really comfortable playing no-limit. Last night she looked comfortable.

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I thought her 3-betting the 679 flop with QQ against Antonio was really impressive. Her 97s bluff against Antonio's QQ on the KJKx board was pretty reckless, in my opinion, but slightly better than Antonio's weak playing in that hand.

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Isn't Negreanu lending Brunson 100K for a future promise of Bellagio chips the same as Negreanu taking 100K off the table ("going south" as the Deeb incident in season 1?)

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Wow, yeah. That never occurred to me. Technically he is taking chips off the table, I guess.

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Didn't Negreanu buy in for like $10 million (obvious exageration)? If he had everyone covered by like a bazillion dollars, does it really change his effective stack size? Also, do we know he took it out of his chips on the table or out of his pockets, which clearly are lined with gold.

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He bought in for $1 mil the first season and nothing near that this time. He just borrowed 100k from Laak on the last episode. I don't know how much he ran that up to or if he had everyone covered. Apparently they all agreed that he would be playing with 100k behind anyways so it's a moot point.

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Great Episode. I think Antonios game is fine. Jennifer made a great call as well as Daniel. Todds gal looked very nice.
Great return on Daniels' $1000 investment with Mike.

How about Matasow offering $500,000 for antonio to work in a furniture shop. Antonio would have taken him up on it. Problem is Mike does not have $5000.

That last call by Matasow was crazy. If daniel was chasing a flush he got there or the straight.

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That last call by Matasow was crazy. If daniel was chasing a flush he got there or the straight.

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can you say tiiiiiiiiiiiiiiilt

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Did Gabe Kaplan seriously just take a shot at Mike Sexton?

Gabe Kaplan??

GTFO.

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I don't remember this. Was this during the opening? My TiVo cut that off. What was said?

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seriously, brunson, wtf w/ak...?

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If Negreanu had 99,1010, or JJ and folded people would've been calling Todd a genius. Just like last week when DN folded the nut flush to Todd's bet.

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in the preview for next week, the new canadian player.. is that "krisqueen" from internet fame by any chance? i know he's canadian and a very good player.

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I would have done the same thing Antonio did with those queens after he rebought. I can think of many of times where I lost my buyin, had to rebuy, picked up a huge hand and the same thing happened to me except I kept going with the hand and got busted again ... which then leads to MORE tilt ... he got away from the hand cheap and decided to move onto the next one. If Harmon had a king I believe she would have played the hand the exact same way trying to trick Antonio into calling because he wouldn't believe she would keep leading into him with top pair and then trips on the turn.