Russ Boyd $50K HORSE entrant
 

Russ played the $50K HORSE tourny finishing out early. $50,000 buyin, almost what he owes me. "Couldn't he have just have slept in and paid me?", a little voice inside says to me.

I know I know, he is just a failed businessman that used OTM that he wasn't supposed too, promised to sell the assets of the site if that is what it came to, and didn't. He then took those assets to start another site. All the time blaming Netpro, which he never mentioned the amount they didn't pay.(the O/U is $15K) Also I wonder how many times I was spammed from the site's user list being sold? Where's that $$? One of those early buyins for "Dutch". Here's my favorite: He got to investigate me.

I shouldn't be bitter. He has a web blog and plays in big money tournaments weekly.

I get to watch his chip tricks on ESPN whenever I want.

Russ Boyd has a bracelet..........

<sound of head striking keyboard>

MS Sunshine

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I thought his interview this week on the circuit was rather disgusting. He claims to have a current bankroll of less than 100K and says that he doesn't have enough money to pay back everyone, saying it's a difficult process. Please.

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Has Russ been physically threatened by anyone for all the trouble he caused and money he stole? If I was him I would be scared as hell to be in public.

Brendan

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conceiveably he could have been staked into this tourney.

Same could go for his bracelet event. And I also don't find it impossible that he could dumb enough to enter a $50k event even with less than $100k to his name.


That said, I still think he's about the scummiest of the scum regardless of the accuracy of his excuses and I suspect he does have more than $100k to his name and don't think any of his actions for his failed company or failed promises can be justified.


MS-Sun - For some reason I thought there was a post awhile back that implied you had come to some sort of 'arrangement' or something about this whole thing. This was over a year ago and since I hadn't heard you mention it in awhile I was hoping this was the case.
Evidently not.


I don't blame you for how upset this makes you.
If I was owed that amount of money by a guy and then saw him playing a $50k buy-in event WHILE also claiming he just doesn't have the funds to pay up I'm pretty sure I would still be furious about it even several years later.

I feel for you and know many other 2+2'ers do as well (as if that helps you get your $50k+ back).

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MS,

He was being staked. Also your post is pretty pathetic.

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MS-Sun - For some reason I thought there was a post awhile back that implied you had come to some sort of 'arrangement' or something about this whole thing. This was over a year ago and since I hadn't heard you mention it in awhile I was hoping this was the case.
Evidently not.

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I remember that. He was "done posting about it" and that casued speculation he had settleed and had a non-disclosure agreement in force.

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Russ played the $50K HORSE tourny finishing out early. $50,000 buyin, almost what he owes me. "Couldn't he have just have slept in and paid me?", a little voice inside says to me.

I know I know, he is just a failed businessman that used OTM that he wasn't supposed too, promised to sell the assets of the site if that is what it came to, and didn't. He then took those assets to start another site. All the time blaming Netpro, which he never mentioned the amount they didn't pay.(the O/U is $15K) Also I wonder how many times I was spammed from the site's user list being sold? Where's that $$? One of those early buyins for "Dutch". Here's my favorite: He got to investigate me.

I shouldn't be bitter. He has a web blog and plays in big money tournaments weekly.

I get to watch his chip tricks on ESPN whenever I want.

Russ Boyd has a bracelet..........

<sound of head striking keyboard>

MS Sunshine

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I wasn't part of any of this initial site, but when I saw his business plan for one of his new ventures, and saw that it called for enforcing/registering a patent/copyright on online poker tourneys, my opinion of him plummeted, and I didn't think it was possible to go that low.

He uses poker to fill his own pockets with loot, and if he can't beat you at the game, he'll take the money from the game you host at his site, and if that doesn't work, he'll try to get a copyright on an internet technology that he has no right to and would presumably use that copyright/patent to extort money from other online sites in terms of licensing and fees.

Besides - nothing good ever came from a guy named Russ - trust me - they start cults, shoot people in the capital, and are right above lawyers, pond scum, politicians and Entertainment executives in terms of the general love they receive.

I've been told at some point we'll all converge in a city for something called the Quickening and try to take each other heads, but I doubt I'll live long enough to see that - I expect to be declared a tratior to the state and executed long before then.

Russ "whiskeytown" Brown

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MS,

He was being staked. Also your post is pretty pathetic.

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way to be a turdscum.

just leave 2+2, OK?!?

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MS,

He was being staked. Also your post is pretty pathetic.

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Who would trust him to pay up? Might as well be a Nigerian 419 scam

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MS,

He was being staked. Also your post is pretty pathetic.


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way to be a turdscum.

just leave 2+2, OK?!?


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no kidding from the biggest punk on the forum having the balls to comment on one of the highest quality old posters

he's like some little add kid in high school who's face you want to bash in everyday.

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Sponger is the biggest douche on 2+2.

Not surprised.

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Should 10 of us or so start a temporary gang to threaten him?

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why would the gang have to be temporary?

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why would the gang have to be temporary?

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If that is him in picture, a gang wouldn't be necessary, but would be alot of fun.

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Can somebody fill me in on what Boyd did?

thanks

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I stand by my comments and don't give a [censored] how many posts MS Sunshine has or how respected he is according to a bunch of annoying posters. His posts about Dutch Boyd are so laughable now it really is pathetic. Every time Dutch wins money in a poker tourney or starts up a new business or does anything for that matter people are there with their hands out acting like they're going to see their money again.

Does this look like someone who is playing in big tourneys every week or someone who has been staked by Gavin Smith in the WSOP, like it has been rumored?

http://pokerdb.thehendonmob.com/play...=r&n=15967

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Sponger is the best poster in this thread

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FYP

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you are a pathetic minion.

also, i doubt you have ever, or will ever have $56k to your name, much less have it stolen from you.

st00pid [censored] railbird.

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This is a serious question--how come one of you guys that he scammed doesnt track him down and beat the crap out of him?

At least you'de feel better. your odds of getting busted are like 5-10%

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also, i doubt you have ever, or will ever have $56k to your name, much less have it stolen from you.

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zing!

wait, this doesn't mean anything, you're such a [censored] hag tranny, err i mean granny.

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ZOMG!!777890-!!!DIEBITCH!

You're so funny.

Please allmighty Sponger, tell me how to be witty, funny, and super-cool like you.

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Dear MS Sunshine,

I am sick of reading your posts so I keep reading them. I think this thread is pathetic so I participate in it. I have 15000 posts and I act like a 10 year old. I lack the capacity to let someone vent their frustration without chiming in and adding my useless thoughts on their decision to do so. I will usually try to have the last word and if I have no real comeback I will call you a name. I am the greatest.

Love,

Sponger

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you are a pathetic minion.

also, i doubt you have ever, or will ever have $56k to your name, much less have it stolen from you.

st00pid railbird.

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Please die, seriously. I really wish you had a clue. Dutch Boyd is being staked for these tournies, much like the one he won and got very little out of except for a bracelet and some recognition. His bankroll is less than 100k? 100%. Leave poker and poker gossip to those who actually play the game.

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you are a pathetic minion.

also, i doubt you have ever, or will ever have $56k to your name, much less have it stolen from you.

st00pid railbird.

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Please die, seriously. I really wish you had a clue. Dutch Boyd is being staked for these tournies, much like the one he won and got very little out of except for a bracelet and some recognition. His bankroll is less than 100k? 100%. Leave poker and poker gossip to those who actually play the game.

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Exactly why would anyone stake him in a 50k tournament where the majority of the players are professionals with far more experience than him in most of the games played? You'd have to be dumb as a post. Sounds like bs to me. There's no way in the world he has enough edge for a staker to make money and most likely he's a long term loser in that tournament.

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That said, I still think he's about the scummiest of the scum regardless of the accuracy of his excuses

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Every time Dutch wins money in a poker tourney or starts up a new business or does anything for that matter people are there with their hands out acting like they're going to see their money again.


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I think it does no harm to remind the community what sort of person Russ Boyd is.

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That said, I still think he's about the scummiest of the scum regardless of the accuracy of his excuses

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I think it does no harm to remind the community what sort of person Russ Boyd is.

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Yup. Just compare the worthless slime ball weasel con man Dutch Boyd to the other H.O.R.S.E. entrants like Phil Ivey, T.J., Doyle, Barry G. and Chip Reese.

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There's no way in the world he has enough edge for a staker to make money and most likely he's a long term loser in that tournament.


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Yeah, I don't get it either.

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you are a pathetic minion.

also, i doubt you have ever, or will ever have $56k to your name, much less have it stolen from you.

st00pid railbird.

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Please die, seriously. I really wish you had a clue. Dutch Boyd is being staked for these tournies, much like the one he won and got very little out of except for a bracelet and some recognition. His bankroll is less than 100k? 100%. Leave poker and poker gossip to those who actually play the game.

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another pathetic minion.

clean the scat off the end of your nose, then go sweat dutchy with the rest of the 'bum me a buy-in', little leech girls

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Exactly why would anyone stake him in a 50k tournament where the majority of the players are professionals with far more experience than him in most of the games played? You'd have to be dumb as a post. Sounds like bs to me.

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Oh, it "sounds like bs" so it can't be true. I guess this is a much more reliable source than me actually talking to him.

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I believe you togni, but I also agree with the statement that whoever staked him was dumb as a post.

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you are a pathetic minion.

also, i doubt you have ever, or will ever have $56k to your name, much less have it stolen from you.

st00pid railbird.

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Please die, seriously. I really wish you had a clue. Dutch Boyd is being staked for these tournies, much like the one he won and got very little out of except for a bracelet and some recognition. His bankroll is less than 100k? 100%. Leave poker and poker gossip to those who actually play the game.

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another pathetic minion.

clean the scat off the end of your nose, then go sweat dutchy with the rest of the 'bum me a buy-in', little leech girls

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do you know what "minion" means? have you seen the way this thread has gone in terms of it being a turn on sponger in favor of you fest? good times.

rj

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you are a pathetic minion.

also, i doubt you have ever, or will ever have $56k to your name, much less have it stolen from you.

st00pid railbird.

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Please die, seriously. I really wish you had a clue. Dutch Boyd is being staked for these tournies, much like the one he won and got very little out of except for a bracelet and some recognition. His bankroll is less than 100k? 100%. Leave poker and poker gossip to those who actually play the game.

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Exactly why would anyone stake him in a 50k tournament where the majority of the players are professionals with far more experience than him in most of the games played? You'd have to be dumb as a post. Sounds like bs to me. There's no way in the world he has enough edge for a staker to make money and most likely he's a long term loser in that tournament.

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lots of staking deals are bad for the staker.
There are some rich people out there who just want to be a part of the whole tourney-excitement and have absolutely no idea how -EV their staking deal is.


I'm not the biggest Dutch fan-boi in the universe as anyone knows.
But he did very well in the main-event in 2003 and 2005. Was runner-up in Razz in 2004 and won a bracelet in 2006.

Yeah, yeah...variance, short-term, etc.
And he should clearly be viewed as being totally out-classed in that $50k-HORSE field.
Does provide for some decent selling points to a potential staker though.

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MS-Sun - For some reason I thought there was a post awhile back that implied you had come to some sort of 'arrangement' or something about this whole thing. This was over a year ago and since I hadn't heard you mention it in awhile I was hoping this was the case.
Evidently not.

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I remember that. He was "done posting about it" and that casued speculation he had settleed and had a non-disclosure agreement in force.

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I remember this as well. I asked him and he said something like 'I know people expect me to give details but I'm not going to.'

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Wasn't there talk of people being able to deposit at Pokerspot and not have any money deducted from their credit cards towards the end. So some people got balances at the site they didn't pay for. Then some people bought other peoples balances at a high discount (because it was unlikely at that point that people would get paid).

My question to MS Sunshine. Did all of your $55k balance come from you winning at the tables?

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Ah you found me out. I've been staking Dutch. I wasn't to tell anyone since our deal was when he won player of the year I would be near the front of the line to get paid. If he won, but he didn't have enough to start his rake-free site then he promised, PROMISED, to sell the rights to his life story(It's not really my fault; I was a victum 2) to pay me completely off(+10%)

I'm sorry for trying to cut to the front of the line, but it's a long line.

I stopped posting about Russ for mental health reasons only, but if I weaken sponger, I'll post about the real Dutch here anytime I damn want, because I have 2 zillion posts and Granny and the rest of the animals here at the Zoo seem to like me. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

MS Sunshine

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Dutch will always be staked, because he can not say "I took a shot with my customer's money at PokerSpot, stole the assets of the site, and with current international laws making it cost prohibitive to prosecute me, I have no intention of paying anyone back unless it's to my own benefit."

The company line is "I'm staked" until the end of time whether it's true or not.

MS Sunshine

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The guy stole 50K from you...I wouldn't hold it against you if you went so far as to hire a couple of strippers to use a strap-on on him and then put the video on [censored]...let alone occasionally posted on the internet about his thievry.

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My question to MS Sunshine. Did all of your $55k balance come from you winning at the tables?

Yes, every cent.

The charge backs started when Russ stopped paying off. Surprisingly, I never reversed the $1600 that I used to get on the site. Very early on in PokerSpot's cashout problems the site couldn't take credit cards anymore, because they had no cc processor.

Since those that went bust reversed their charges, and there were 30 players holding 90% of the cashouts, AND POKERSPOT COULDN'T PAY HARDLY ANYONE, we were "investigated" by Russ. Russ gave me a clean bill of health, but the money had run out by then.

MS Sunshine

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Given the choice of:

1) An online poker room shill
2) Tongni

Who would you believe?

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His posts about Dutch Boyd are so laughable now.

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Sunshine's posts have always been laughable, I believe that's the point. I realize that with only being here for a couple years it can be hard for a newb like you to know that.