100nl set, your thoughts?
 

UTG is normal taggish (probably slightly weaktight) multitabling regular on stars 100nl, hes most likely a winning player.

He most likely knows me and probably thinks of me in a similar way, if he has pt he would know my stats are 12vpip and 7pfr, im pretty sure he knows im capable of raising flop like this with a draw.


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP1 ($101)
MP2 ($45.95)
Hero ($157.80)
CO ($98.85)
Button ($246.05)
SB ($85.85)
BB ($113.80)
UTG ($92.40)
UTG+1 ($44.05)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $4</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Hero calls $4, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, SB calls $3.50, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: ($13) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $3</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $13</font>, SB calls $13, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $30</font>, Hero ???


What would you do and why?

Re: 100nl set, your thoughts?
 

Shove

Also I raise flop to 20 probably.

Re: 100nl set, your thoughts?
 

Looks like an overpair. I would personally push. Some people might say trap, but there's enough money in the pot and you'd be satisfied to win it there right? If he does have an overpair, he might just call.

Re: 100nl set, your thoughts?
 

I'm pushing. Looks like an overpair to me. Pot is big enough to push for me.

Re: 100nl set, your thoughts?
 

He could easily make this play with an overpair or suited overcards. TT is the only hand ahead of you.

Insta-push.

Re: 100nl set, your thoughts?
 

push !! what is SB doing ? obvious draw ..... get one or both to call

Re: 100nl set, your thoughts?
 

I think stack sizes are too small to even consider folding your set here. Let's give him a set, overpair with a diamond, or AKd:

Board: 6c Td 4d
Dead:
equity (%) win (%) tie (%)
Hand 1: 68.0929 % 68.09% 00.00% { 4c4s }
Hand 2: 31.9071 % 31.91% 00.00% { QQ+, TT, 66, AdKd }

Just push it.

Re: 100nl set, your thoughts?
 

Push.

UTG is not your problem here; you fear no hand of his. You're absolutely losing your stack to TT, which if he's weaktight he would seldom raise UTG, he didn't raise UTG w/ 66, and you crush everything else.

But SB overcalled after your flop raise, and could have who-knows-what, including a draw. There's 69BB in that pot already, no shame in taking it down right now, and you're not folding ever, so just price out the draws and push it in.

Re: 100nl set, your thoughts?
 

Witouth SB overcall i would say call and raise turn all-in, but with SB in the pot push to avoid letting him see the turn "cheap" if he has a draw. The pot is pretty big as it is now, and that might induce SB to call your push with a draw. The reason i would call and trap witouth sb is because i think its a good chanse that UTG is folding an overpair here if you push.

Re: 100nl set, your thoughts?
 

The hero is only behind two hands (TT, 66). There are several more hands AA-JJ, AKs that could play this way. That range puts the Hero ahead 5 out of 7 possible hands. Enough of an edge for a push.

Re: 100nl set, your thoughts?
 

If it wasnt for sb I might call here. Villain is slightly weak tight so he might fold his overpair which we don't want him to. I don't see villain having a draw here and even if he has and we go broke when he hits (unless we are able to fold it, i dont know) i still think its +EV considering we get more action from an overpair 'cause he is folding it ALOT when we put him all in on the flop.

Anyway we cant call with sb there so this is an easy push.

Re: 100nl set, your thoughts?
 

FWIW,

I wouldnt think a 12/7 is pushing a draw. I fold all but TT, 66 and AKd here a lot of the time.

If you are a 12/7, and he knows that, then I almost have trouble seeing him playing back at you with those hands.

Since he doesnt know you are that f'n tight, then push.

Re: 100nl set, your thoughts?
 

you think a 12/7 might be pushing an overpair?

Re: 100nl set, your thoughts?
 

I think a 12/7 re-raises any pair that is an overpair here.

Set miner stats re-raises me. I may rrz to 30 but if he does anything but fold I shut down UI.

Re: 100nl set, your thoughts?
 

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Re: 100nl set, your thoughts?
 

I folded and UTG had TT. SB had flushdraw with a sc. The reason I folded was that I think UTG is too weaktight to rr over the overcall with anything other than TT/AA/KK/AKs. I know he raises 99+ utg, he's tag preflop but tends to be a bit weak tight postflop as is the trend at stars 100nl fullring.

This player is good enough to bet the flop properly with AA/KK though. He's not raising AKs here 17 more, he's either calling or pushing. I'm quite confident the only hand hes betting so weak then rr to 30 over a pretty tight raiser and a caller like this is TT. If SB folds then I'm pushing obv. I'm not in the habit of folding sets almost ever but this is just one of the few times I have in ages.

This hand happened a while ago by the way, it just came up an a discussion I was having with a friend.

Re: 100nl set, your thoughts?
 

of course villain had TT, otherwise this hand wouldn't be on 2+2