Rold Slotboom PLO due out 8/15
 

FYI.

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Where did you get that 8/15 date from? Amazon says 10/1. 'Stosh

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"Product Details

Paperback: 272 pages
Publisher: D&B Publishing (October 1, 2006) "

On another note, does anyone actually want a Rolf Slotboom book? I wouldn't mind a PLO book, but after reading numerous of Slotboom's Cardplayer articles I don't have too much hope in this book.

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"Product Details

Paperback: 272 pages
Publisher: D&B Publishing (October 1, 2006) "

On another note, does anyone actually want a Rolf Slotboom book? I wouldn't mind a PLO book, but after reading numerous of Slotboom's Cardplayer articles I don't have too much hope in this book.

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Holdem on the Come is a very good book.

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"Product Details

Paperback: 272 pages
Publisher: D&B Publishing (October 1, 2006) "

On another note, does anyone actually want a Rolf Slotboom book? I wouldn't mind a PLO book, but after reading numerous of Slotboom's Cardplayer articles I don't have too much hope in this book.


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Holdem on the Come is a very good book.

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I believe that Drew Mason did most of the writing and Rolf may be along for marketing and street cred purposes.

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I have a hard time believing anyone named Rolf has street cred.

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King marc care to elaborate what articles in cardplayer have given you concerns on his strategy

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It will be out mid to late August. Trust me - it's a very good book indeed.

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Rolf's web site said due out 8/15. Amazon is usually slow on changing due dates.

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It will be out mid to late August. Trust me - it's a very good book indeed.



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That is suffcient recomendation for me. Do you have info on his DVD's?

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King marc care to elaborate what articles in cardplayer have given you concerns on his strategy

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I haven't read Cardplayer in about five months, but when I was reading it I remember Rolf's articles weren't great/even good. I have nothing to back my statement of course, but it's just my personal opinion.

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I've got the DVDs. They're good.

A friend of mine has been editing the Omaha book. He is a strong poker player but with almost no Omaha experience. Having gone through the book he decided to play some PLO - putting Rolf's strategies into practice - in games around the $2-$4 level. He picked up $6,000 in two weeks.....

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A friend of mine has been editing the Omaha book. He is a strong poker player but with almost no Omaha experience. Having gone through the book he decided to play some PLO - putting Rolf's strategies into practice - in games around the $2-$4 level. He picked up $6,000 in two weeks.....

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Once he crosses the $25K mark, I will keep half.

Rolf Slotboom
www.rolfslotboom.com

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Yes, August 15 is indeed the goal. It may be a bit later that that, but I hope not - I would like the book to be released ASAP. Descriptions of the book, quotes by other players and all are available on the site of the publisher.

Best regards,
Rolf.

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Rolf, I just saw the table of content. I was wondering, how strong is the theoretical basis in this book, the chapter-titles look more like a biography / articles-style:

* Foreword;
* About the book;
* Chapter 1... My Years In Vienna: On my way to a renewing and groundbreaking strategy;
* Chapter 2... Back In Amsterdam: Facing some of the best PLO players on a daily basis - and beating them.
* Chapter 3... Moving up to the biggest online games;
* Chapter 4... Playing online: Adjustments for shorthanded play;
* Chapter 5... Practice Hands;
* Chapter 6... Hand Match-ups & Analysis;
* Chapter 7... Classic Articles;
* Glossary.

Could you tell us a bit more about the topic you will discuss?

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Hi Jourdain,

The book starts out with a couple of chapters on the background behind my strange / unorthodox / unconentional playing style that I started with, and that I have tried to adjust / perfect with every new step and new game that I encountered. In these chapters I describe the EXACT strategies I have been using over the years, why I have been using them, and the pros and cons behind these strategies. On all occasions, I describe how I have adjusted, and how the reader should possibly adjust, when people take countermeasures against the seemingly simple strategies that I recommend. All in all, I will indeed talk a lot about myself (a trait I just cannot help), but in this case this is more because in EVERY game / place where I started playing, no one was using the strategies / approach that I was using - meaning my strategy was often based on first) exploiting the mistakes that opponents regularly made, then) adjusting to the adjustments that opponents were starting to make, and finally) shifting to an entirely new approach once within the framework of this game it was impossible to keep a large edge with my initial strategies.

The chapters on specific strategic issues are the largest, and I go out of my way to explain specifically the merits of 'my' plays, and how you should take advantage of the fact that people will NOT think highly of this way that you play. All in all, this book is more in-depth than basically anything that I have written so far, and I can honestly say that I give away everything that I have always tried to keep to myself. I have always been a bit reluctant to spell out everything EXACTLY to my readers when it comes to PLO, simply because it is still my bread-and-butter game, AND because my strategies are fairly easy to copy for anyone who is capable of thinking at at least a decent level. I have decided to do it anyway, frankly for nut much more than just the honor of writing the (what I hope to be) best PLO book to date. However, from a money-making perspective, this choice is obviously not too smart, because I have held back NOTHING - meaning I have put my entire game plan out in the open, and thus I may have killed my own game plan, simply because my regular opponents can and will use everything that I have written against me.

So yes, biased as I am, I would say the theoretical basis in the book is VERY strong. And indeed I have tried to make things a pleasure to read by maintaining a fairly fast, article-like writing style, focusing on every apect / specific aspect of my strategies in a separate way. But I hope that this has not gone at the expense of the quality of the information.

Anyway, that's about it. For the rest I can only say that if you check out Amazon, you see the book is priced (what I judge to be) ridiculously low for the type of information it provides. So, based on this alone I am certain that you will not be disappointed by the book in any way - even though I expect, and quite frankly hope, that there will be many passages in the book that you will find strange and unconventional: strategies that go almost 100% against what is perceived by many as correct.

Rolf Slotboom
www.rolfslotboom.com

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Thank you for your explanation Rolf [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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Rolf is the book totally PLO or is there some PLO8 in it also?

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As some here has suggested I too was not a fan of Rolf's writings at Cardplayer, sometimes it was due to strategical differences, and at other times I think it may have been because English is probably a second language for Rolf.

Then I read most (I never finished it I must admit) of Hold'em on the Come which changed my opinion of his work. I no longer view Rolf as a weak tight nitty player, and his writing style is now greatly improved (possibly due to his partnership with Dew Mason).

Most recently I purchased Rolf's Expert Hold'em series of 4 DVD's, which further enhanced my respect for Rolf's work. Its an excellent work, focusing on the transition of limit players to NL games (and on DVD focusing on the opposite direction). The topics covered remind me of what I would expect Small Stakes NL from Ed Miller & crew to be like, and the overall production & sound quality is greatly improved from Ed's DVD.

In short, I'm really looking forward to Rolf's PLO book. If he was able to pull it off with his prior to projects, and PLO is his #1 game, then I think its safe to assume that Rolf will provide us all with the definitive PLO book of the decade. I'm really impressed with Rolf's growth over the past few years, I can't wait to see what he does next.

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Thanks for your kind words, TT - I really appreciate it.

Rolf Slotboom
www.rolfslotboom.com

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Rolf is the book totally PLO or is there some PLO8 in it also?

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Strictly PLO high, cjs.

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Thanks for your kind words, TT - I really appreciate it.

Rolf Slotboom
www.rolfslotboom.com

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This thread is too full of love like this. Get a chat room already! [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

Seriously though, as mainly an internet PLO player I am really looking forward to this book release as I am sure it will be able to at least pick up a few things. I just don't understand how the strategies could be drastically different or as you say, "the opposite" of how many play. I really hope it is that enlightening and groundbreaking though.

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Thanks for your kind words, TT - I really appreciate it.

Rolf Slotboom
www.rolfslotboom.com

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You earned it. I wasn't a big fan, but I've been converted. We all grow both as people and also as players, and your growth is evident in my eyes both as a player and as a communicator.

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WOW I am so excited and can't wait til this book is out!

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love your cardplayer articles looking forward to a good plo book!

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does it have printed words on paper about plo going beyond "2 cards don't make an omaha hand blah blah"? sign me up! like the articles or not they definitely go beyond the basics. price looks right too!

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Okay, I preordered.

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Since they play a mixed PLO/PLHE-game at my local casino I had no choice but ordering it [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

Personally I was not that amazed with the Ciaffone books, so I hope this one will provide the nuts and bolts to get a firm grip on PLO. On the upside, it only has to be half as good as "HE on the come" and I will be more than satisfied.

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BUMP.

What is the latest status of potential release date? Still August 15th?

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Hi 1p0kerboy,

A direct answer that I received from the publisher today:

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The book will be released in August, at the end of the month, in the US. Stock will then be shipped to Europe where it will arrive towards the end of September. It will be released before the end of September in Europe, as scheduled

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All in all, my August 15 suggestion may have been slightly optimistic. Having said that, it seems that both in the US and in Europe the book will be out clearly before the official October 1 release date.

Anyway, hope this information is of use.

Rolf Slotboom

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Are you planning to do a DVD set with this any time in the future?

Can hardly wait for the book.

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Thanks Rolf. I'm looking forward to this book.

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Hi Sp1ke,

First let's see how many copies of my no-limit / limit hold'em DVD's will be sold eventually, and of course if the "Secrets of Professional Pot-Limit Omaha" sales will be in line with the sales of the "Hold'em On The Come" book. Keep in mind that the PLO market is *very* small compared to the hold'em market, meaning that PLO books & DVD's are usually not the best products to put on the market - from a moneymaking point of view, that is. For instance, I am certain that D&B and I have put a lot more time & effort into the PLO book than we may ever get back in revenue. So, it is probably more than anything the honor of trying to come up with some kind of 'definitive' work, and maybe help give this game that we all love another boost - a boost that it could very well use. All in all, if I am offered the opportunity to follow up this book with a new series of PLO DVD's, then I would almost certainly be willing to take this on. However, let's first see how things develop with the upcoming book, both with regards to the sales and the reception by our target audience - the (potential) PLO players.

Thanks for your kind words though - I really appreciate it.

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I noticed the preorder price moved up a dollar on amazon. I was checking the date because i had already preordered and needed to know if it was time to put my lawn chair out by the mailbox.

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looking forward to this one more, been using a nasty little trick from one of your articles to very good effect

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Hi Rolf,

I'm looking forward to reading your new book and have pre-ordered it. Do you know when it finally will come out? I hear talk about august-september and ever oktober.

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So when is this book coming out?

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Chapters Online in Canada has it listed as October.

I preordered it already; can't wait.

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Amazon keeps changing the projected ship date. Now they are telling me October is the ship date. No update on Rolf's web site.