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DrNo888 07-05-2006 07:09 PM

Delmonico\'s vs Craft - need advice/opinions
 
The missus and I are heading to Vegas later this month to celebrate our 2nd Anniversary. From what I have read here on Vegas steakhouses, I am leaning towards one of these two for our anniversary dinner. So this is where you guys come in. Need your opinions for these two.

1) Which one should I choose and why, based on personal experience
2) Recommend appetizers for each place
3) Recommend entree or cut type (We'll defintely get steaks)
4) Recommend a desert or two

BTW, neither one of us drink. I cant due to acid reflux and she doesnt like alcohol. But I really want to try some wine there. Maybe, we can just get a glass of red wine to share. So maybe a red wine.

No write ins please. I will choose only from these two. Although, for the other night that she's there, we'll probably go to Sushi Mon or something similar. Do they have the same all you can eat deal for lunch?

slamdunkpro 07-05-2006 07:34 PM

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Out of the two I'd pick Delmonico's over Craft. I think Coliccho's joints are way overrated.

LasVegasMichael 07-05-2006 07:43 PM

Re: Delmonico\'s vs Craft - need advice/opinions
 
Though I am a Venetian fanboy when it comes to the poker room, I have never been to Delmonico, so I cannot comment other then to say that it is very well reviewed year after year.

However, we did dine at Craftsteak, and will not return. I had the Kobe beef tartare which was very good, but the main dish was not something that was worth the high expense. Also, the dining room is not even remotely intimate, and overall, the place is just simply overrated.

For steak, we prefer Capital Grille at the Fashion Show or even Alize at the Palms (though Alize is not a steakhouse, it has an incredible NY Steak, probably the best in town that we have had). Capital Grille has a wonderful view, fairly intimate seating (though not as imtimate or elegant as Alize), and has wonderful dry aged meat.

Between the two you are choosing, I would go with Delmonico simply because we really did not enjoy Craftsteak, but that is just us.

mike4 07-05-2006 09:29 PM

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I went to Delmonicos this weekend and thoroughly enjoyed every aspect of the dinner.

The appetizers we got were the bruschetta and the scallops. The scallops were the special but they were phenominal. I really enjoyed the bruschetta with melted mozzarella cheese. My mouth is watering just thinking about it.

I chose the bone in rib eye steak, medium rare. It was the best steak I have ever had in my life and I have been to many steakhouses in my day. It was cooked perfectly and had a perfect crisp to the outside. It literally melted in my mouth.

For wine I had a glass of reisling which is a white wine from germany. It is a delicious wine especially for people who do not drink much. It has a nice finish and is fairly sweet. Just check the back page of the wine menu and you will see it. There was only one reisling wine item.

We did not get dessert because we were all full. 4 men just got dominated by the steakhouse and we could barely move after dinner. It was totally worth it. You could definitely get a dinner for 2 under 150 which is nice.

We had 4 guys who were drinking and finished with about 350, not too bad. I would definitely go back and you can take your wife on a nice gondola ride after dinner. The Venetian is awesome.

Chimp 07-05-2006 09:45 PM

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Craft is far, far superior to Delmonico's in pretty much every way. It's not close. FWIW, I was first in my class at culinary school and spend an ungodly amount dining out....so I have some basis for my snobby opinions.

1. quality of meat. This should be the #1 consideration when deciding b/w anysteakhouse. Craftsteak has a wide selection of types of beef for you to choose from (grass-fed, corn-fed, kobe) and dry ages them for up to five weeks (depending on cut). Their bone-in ribeye for two was pretty much the best thing I've ever eaten. Del.'s steaks are dry-aged and prime too, but I was just more impressed with the quality at Craft.

2. atmosphere: I prefer Craft here again. It's got a warmer feel with lots of natural wood tones and cozy private booths. Delmonico's is too bright for my taste and feels antiseptic and crowded.

3. execution: I've only been to Craftsteak twice and Delmonico's once, but Craftsteak cooked my steaks perfectly both times and the sides were well-made. Del. overcooked my steak slightly and the veggie side I got there was overcooked to the point of being disugusting.

4. service: about the same

5. originality/choice of menu: it's a steakhouse, so neither place is particularly innovative. Craft is better to me because it did some little things better than Del. For instance, Del. served a tomato salad when it was not tomato season - a big sign of a restaurant mailing it in. Craftsteak seemed to have a much more seasonal menu when it came to sides. Also, I'm a marrow freak, and I liked how Craftsteak served roasted marrow bones as a side with one of my steaks.

You'll have a good steak at both places, but overall, Craftsteak is just at a higher level.

GoblinMason (Craig) 07-05-2006 09:56 PM

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I haven't been to craft, but I went to Delmonico's last week and it was very good.

For appitizers, the pretzel fondue was amazing.

-Craig

*TT* 07-05-2006 11:07 PM

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Craft is far, far superior to Delmonico's in pretty much every way. It's not close. FWIW, I was first in my class at culinary school and spend an ungodly amount dining out....so I have some basis for my snobby opinions.


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he guy I work for is a major restaurateur in NYC, as well as the owner of a publishing company. He called me up last weekend because he ate at Craft Steak for the first time and was underwhelmed. I have to admit I was surprised to hear that because I love Craft and Craftwitch, but since my boss was a judge on Iron Chef I'd tend to agree with his opinions.

TT [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

DrNo888 07-05-2006 11:37 PM

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Thanks for the reponses so far guys. Looks like pretty even so far. Keep them coming.

slamdunkpro 07-06-2006 01:33 AM

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I’m going to jump back in here with a couple additional comments:

I’m surprised at Chimp’s comment about Delmonico’s being bright. When I went there I thought it was on the dim side.

Craftsteak can be noisy and the two tops are very small.

I’ll agree with Chimp that Delmonico’s tends to overcook their veggies. This too has been my experience there.

After reviewing the current menus online, I was surprised to only see rib-eyes (bone in and bone out) on Delmonico’s menu.

Where you are staying also may factor in. I’ve been told that staying at the MGM will get you a better table and a $35 to $50 credit at Craftsteak, so you may want to give both hotels a call.

If you’re a real steak fanatic, opt for the hanger steak at Craftsteak.
(yes I’m changing my recommendation after some thought)

esch 07-06-2006 02:00 AM

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After reviewing the current menus online, I was surprised to only see rib-eyes (bone in and bone out) on Delmonico’s menu.

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Maybe not a complete surprise given the name since a Delmonico refers to a specific kind of steak - in many parts of the country a Delmonico is a ribeye (and pretty much the only steak I order if I have a choice).

Not unlike Peter Luger's limited steak selection (Steak for 2, Steak for 3, etc), except in this case it's the porterhouse.

The Riz 07-06-2006 02:16 AM

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Craft. Craft. Craft. Best dinner I have ever had. Twice. And I frequent Chicago steakhouses.

slamdunkpro 07-06-2006 02:41 AM

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Maybe not a complete surprise given the name since a Delmonico refers to a specific kind of steak - in many parts of the country a Delmonico is a ribeye

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Actually Delmonico originally referred to the meat that the first real “modern” restaurant in America, the original Delmonico’s in NYC served. In the 1800’s and early 1900’s “Delmonico” was pretty much a synonym for “Steak like they serve in NY”. A ’Delmonico” can be any cut of meat: Rib steak, sirloin, strip, round, flank, hanger, or tri-tip. If you only see the word “Delmonico” on the menu, ask questions, cause you just might be paying loin prices for chuck!

MrFizzbin 07-06-2006 02:42 AM

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I know I'm going to get flamed for this, but I always liked the Range in Harrahs..... More food than a normal human can eat.... tasted good to me... Flame away....

Howard Beale 07-06-2006 03:13 AM

Re: Delmonico\'s vs Craft - need advice/opinions
 
This is a timely thread for me. I'd planned on going to one of these 2 myself next Wednesday (I've never been to either). I was leaning towards Craft Steak because on Tuesday afternoon I'm taking my mom to Canalleto's at the Venetian. It looks like I'm going to have to flip a coin. Will I need reservations on a Wednesday night?

Entity 07-06-2006 03:17 AM

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Personal opinion, Delmonico > Craft for overall dining experience. Craft > Delmonico for the steak itself, though. But overall, Delmonico's won me over, and I don't think it was a particularly close decision.

Rob

2+2 wannabe 07-06-2006 03:31 AM

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I haven't been to craft, but I went to Delmonico's last week and it was very good.

For appitizers, the pretzel fondue was amazing.

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quoted for truth

also, service was phenomenal

edit: my asparagus was perfectly cooked as well - but to be honest, my steak wasn't near the best I've had

mike4 07-06-2006 09:57 AM

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Delmonico's has many different cuts of steak. My friend had the filet mignon, another had strip steak, and two of us had the bone in rib eye.

Chimp 07-06-2006 10:37 AM

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Delmonico serves a few steaks

Here's a pic of the interior, which I didn't like: link

Craft's menu is has more choices, and like I said, the execution was better.

Really, you'd have a great time at either place. I just prefer Craftsteak for the reasons I stated before...

esch 07-06-2006 01:12 PM

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[ QUOTE ]
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Maybe not a complete surprise given the name since a Delmonico refers to a specific kind of steak - in many parts of the country a Delmonico is a ribeye

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Actually Delmonico originally referred to the meat that the first real “modern” restaurant in America, the original Delmonico’s in NYC served. In the 1800’s and early 1900’s “Delmonico” was pretty much a synonym for “Steak like they serve in NY”. A ’Delmonico” can be any cut of meat: Rib steak, sirloin, strip, round, flank, hanger, or tri-tip. If you only see the word “Delmonico” on the menu, ask questions, cause you just might be paying loin prices for chuck!

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I'll agree on the reference to the original Delmonico in NY, but the way I heard it the steak at Delmonico's was a specific type that most (or at least more than any other) folks agree was a ribeye.

As the term Delmonico spread accross the country, it ended up being used "differently" and that why now you have to make sure that a Delmonico is actually a rib-eye.

It's kind of weird, but I can pretty much agree with sentence you said. But because I also believe that a Delmonico should refer only to a ribeye because they originally probably served a ribeye, we end up disagreeing.

fishyak 07-06-2006 02:20 PM

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I've been too both restaurants, most recently to Craftsteak, see my LV trip report and restaurant review from May for details.

From my perspective, for "romantic atmosphere" I would give the edge to Delmonico's. It also has a wider range of appetizers. However, in the real world (with my wife) dessert is FAR more important than appetizers so if you pig out early, you may fade at the finish.

Delmonico "light" appetizer, home made potato chips with white truffle oil. OMG! But I ate at Delimonico's with a group that brought their own wine and I have no recollection of dessert!

My Craftsteak experience was easier to recall. My wife had the hanger steak which for her was good value. Not too big. My ribeye was prepared EXACTLY the way I asked for it, Medium rare tending to rare. In fairness, it was big enough to split.

We shared french fries, sugar snap peas and roasted hen of the woods mushrooms as side orders - all very good.

Tell your wife - no fillet! - IMO fillet is the classic overpriced chick food. It will be tender and FLAVORLESS unless aggressively seasoned. (Bobby Flay/s Fillet at Mesa Grille is aggressively seasoned and is very good.) Bone-in ribeye is, IMO, the best cut of beef to use for a classic steakhouse experience.

I had trouble deciding between two desserts at Craftsteak, the bread pudding (a personal favorite) and cinnamon monkey bread. The waitress brought both at no extra charge. Go with the monkey bread. It pulled apart easily without being sticky and had a great dripping sauce that was not too heavy after the steak dinner.

Also, if you just want one drink - Craftsteak has a very impressive list of single malt scotches which offer much better value than even a good wine by the glass that might come from a bottle that has been open for days.

I know about GERD so dine early in either restaurant. This is NOT light dining. Get reservations before you leave for LV. Both restaurants offer really good food, although the results of other shows that as with investing "individual results may vary."

I would try to take these comments and tailor them to my wife's preferences. Anniversarys are good things. I am coming up on my 25th and my parents had their 70th anniversary last year, so in this area, I have some experience. My wife would pick Craftsteak because we could "craft" a really nice experience without going over the top. If I wanted to go more "over the top" or "atmosphere" I would tend to slide more to Delmonico's. What type of experience do you and your wife prefer? That is how I suggest that you decide.

The good news is you can't be wrong.

growlers 07-06-2006 03:23 PM

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I haven't been to Delmonico's, but I've lived here for 4 years now, eaten at many places, and think craftstreak is the best steak meal we have ever had. It may be the best meal period, but I can't decide if the tasting menu at Emeril's Fish House was #1 or #2.

The chilled seafood appetizer platter is ~$60 and has cold king crab, jumbo shrimp, 1/2 lobster tail, lobster salad, and half shell oysters and clams. Awesome! But asked for butter for the crab - they bring out 4 sauces but no butter.

I have had the filet, the rib-eye for two, the kobe rib-eye and braised king crab for entrees. I would definitely get the ribeye for two - the kobe is not worth the price premium.

They also have great sides and the lobster bisque is awseome.

Dessert last time we got a sorbet and ice cream sampler and it rocked. Craftsteak's mantra seems to be awesome selections of food served simply. Defintiely get the ribeye for two.

Maybe I'll go to Delmonico's tonight and report back! I've had desserts in the bar and wasn't floored by them, but they were good.

growlers 07-06-2006 06:10 PM

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You @#$holes better not let this thread die, because I just made reservations at Delmonico's for 8:30 tonight since my wife started hounding me after we were talking about this topic.
Damn thread cost me $200!
Any last minute advice for menu items? I'll get the ribeye and the truffle chips, not sure what else to try.

Clarkmeister 07-06-2006 08:35 PM

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You @#$holes better not let this thread die, because I just made reservations at Delmonico's for 8:30 tonight since my wife started hounding me after we were talking about this topic.
Damn thread cost me $200!
Any last minute advice for menu items? I'll get the ribeye and the truffle chips, not sure what else to try.

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BBQ shrimp appetizer is awesome, especially with a good red wine.

Josh W 07-06-2006 09:21 PM

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You @#$holes better not let this thread die, because I just made reservations at Delmonico's for 8:30 tonight since my wife started hounding me after we were talking about this topic.
Damn thread cost me $200!
Any last minute advice for menu items? I'll get the ribeye and the truffle chips, not sure what else to try.

[/ QUOTE ]

Lobster Bisque is a must...but only if you like good food.

Josh

growlers 07-07-2006 05:01 AM

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Meh.
Craftsteak is much better.
We got there at our reservation time of 8:30 but didn't get seated until 8:47, FIRST time I have ever had to wait when I've had a reservation anywhere in Vegas.
Had fondue and lobster bisque for appetizer - the cheese part of the fondue rocked but the bread seemed undercooked/doughy, the bisque was great.
I had the bone in rib steak, the house specialty, it was perfectly cooked (medium rare) but just not as good as the craftsteak ribeye, the craftsteak ribeye just melted in the mouth. Wife got the rack o'lamb, it was excellent.
Got garlic mushrooms and the truffled potato chips and both were overflavored and just OK. Not sure what the hype is about the chips.
Pecan pie for dessert - shortbread was too dry.
Couple of drinks and bill was 210 including 18% tip.

Now don't get me wrong, it was still a great meal, better than the best meal you can get in 99% of the US, but for Vegas I just put it an 8 or so. The only "knock you on the floor good" part was the lamb.

I think craftsteak blows this place away, and I don't say that lightly - we are foodies and have been to many places in town.

Our list of places that just blew us away:
Craftsteak
Emeril's fish house tasting menu
Commander's Palace (Turtle soup - yum!!!!!)
Marc's on Lake mead
Rosemary's on Sahara
Seablue at MGM

Great but not in the same class as above:
Delmonico's
Nobu
Simon's at Hard Rock
Capital Grill
Joe's stone crab
Mesa Grill

Hope this helps!

fslexcduck 07-07-2006 06:18 AM

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craft. not close. we ordered the kobe platinum sampler among six of us and it was easily the best meal i ever had. no thinking necessary, they jsut bring you a ton of delicious food. but be prepared for a bill. with tip, $1900 between 6 of us (that was high end).

Chimp 07-07-2006 09:32 AM

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Growlers:

Try Picasso. It will blow you away too.

Dids 07-07-2006 11:41 AM

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My one experience at Craft was fantastic.

TT- I'm now running down my list of Iron Chef judges to figure out who you're talking about. Older dude dressed like Elton John?

DrNo888 07-07-2006 11:57 AM

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Excellent trip report growlers!

Looks like it's leaning towards Craft for now. Will wait for more opinions before deciding.

For either of these, now far in advance can I make reservations?

Dids,

Steingartner? I think he's on every episode.

wdead 07-07-2006 11:58 AM

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craft. not close. we ordered the kobe platinum sampler among six of us and it was easily the best meal i ever had. no thinking necessary, they jsut bring you a ton of delicious food. but be prepared for a bill. with tip, $1900 between 6 of us (that was high end).

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i was at this meal and it was amazing

Donkishness 07-07-2006 12:13 PM

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No mention of BOA in the Forum Shops at Ceasers? Good stuff.

Kneel B4 Zod 07-07-2006 01:18 PM

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craft. not close. we ordered the kobe platinum sampler among six of us and it was easily the best meal i ever had. no thinking necessary, they jsut bring you a ton of delicious food. but be prepared for a bill. with tip, $1900 between 6 of us (that was high end).

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did they actually serve Kobe beef?

also, geez that's a lot to pay for a steakhouse. was a lot of wine involved? if I was paying that much, I think the $350 12 course meal at Robuchon would be much better:


SAMPLE MENU DÉGUSTATION A $350

Le Pomme
cuillère de perles, de son jus rafraîchi d’un granité de vodka
Apple pearl, vodka granité

Le Caviar Osciètre
dans une délicate gelée recouverte d’une onctueuse crème de chou fleur
Oscetra caviar topped with a delicate gelée
and a smooth cauliflower cream

Le Foie Gras
en mille-feuille caramélisé d’anguille fumée aux saveurs orientales
Foie gras, mille-feuille of smoked eel with oriental flavors

Le Thon
en tartare, poivron rouge confit à la bergamot et au jambon séché
Tuna tartar, cold red bell pepper confit
with bergamote and dry cured ham

La Langoustine
truffée et cuite en ravioli à l’étuvée de chou vert
Truffled langoustine ravioli with steamed green cabbage

La Truffe
en tarte friande aux oignons et lard fumé
Truffle in a hot pastry, onions and smoked ham

Le Parmigiano Reggiano
avec un consommé végétal à la truffe noire
Parmesan and vegetable consommé with black truffle

Les Ecrevisses Pattes Rouges
en marinière aux petits légumes
Red leg crayfish in “marinière” with Parisian vegetables

L’Epinard
en duo de truffe et de tofu au coulis de persil simple et sa voilette
Mille feuille of spinach, truffles and tofu, parsley coulis

L’Ormeau
et l’artichaut poivrade dans un court bouillon au gingembre
Abalone, baby artichokes in a ginger bouillon

L’Amadai
cuit en écailles et servi sur une nage au yuriné
Amadai in a Lily bulb broth

Le Turbot
cuit sur l’arête dans son jus et en cocotte, fricassée de cèpe à l’ail nouveau
Roasted Brittany turbot “on the bone” with cepes and garlic

Le Veau
en côte au plat avec un jus gras et escorté de taglierinis de légumes au pistou
Sautéed veal chop with natural jus and vegetable
taglierinis flavored with pesto

L’Epeautre
du pays de Sault mitonné et doré à la feuille d’or
Sault wild oatmeal, gold leaf

Le Coing
en fine compote d’Amaretto, crème glacée au gingembre,
mousse de yogourt au Champagne
Quince compote Amaretto, ginger ice cream,
yogurt and Champagne mousse

Le Chocolat
chaud, gout café aux éclats de grué de cacao
Warm chocolate, coffee perfumed cocoa morsels

Le Café express
Espresso

VegasNoob 07-07-2006 02:05 PM

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For an anniversary, no doubt, Delmonico's. My wife and I have been there several times, including dinner after our wedding (we got married on a gondola at the Venetian), and the atmosphere there will be great for an anniversary. When we did our wedding dinner there we got a tasting menu which was a lot of fun as it let's you try small portions of several dishes. They'll do the tasting with or without a wine pairing for each course, so you can go without if you don't want a lot of wine, but just let the waiter know your situation and ask if you can have a glass of red with the main course or however you want it. If you are going to order an entree off the menu though, then it begins and ends with the bone-in ribeye, do not pass go just order that puppy! By all means, call ahead and let them know you are celebrating a special event. I think the service there is always fantastic, but when I've been there for something special, they've really done it up.

By the way, I like Craft, but I think the atmosphere is totally wrong for an anniversary. It's loud, and it's easy to feel like you're sitting on top of the people next to you. Delmonico's is a much better setting for a romantic intimate dinner.

VegasNoob 07-07-2006 02:11 PM

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Growler's, nice that you mentioned Rosemary's ... that is such a great place, but being far off the strip, I don't think it always get's the attention it deserves.

I totally agree with you about being underwhelmed by Nobu.

growlers 07-07-2006 02:25 PM

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By the way, I like Craft, but I think the atmosphere is totally wrong for an anniversary. It's loud, and it's easy to feel like you're sitting on top of the people next to you. Delmonico's is a much better setting for a romantic intimate dinner.

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I can agree with you here to an extent. Craft is a little louder. I don't think either place is the quiet romantic type of place, though, where you are in your own little world in the corner. If you want that you are picking from the wrong two choices. Commander's palace for instance is much more romantic than both of them, that eiffel tower restaurant at Paris is supposed to be romantic as well. But the OP didn't want us to get off track and only gave two choices [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] I didn't find Delmonico's to be particularly romantic, but I'll agree it is quieter than craft.

As far as the guy whose bill was $1900, the platinum Kobe menu was ~$190 per person, as I said before I feel like the regular ribeye for two was just as good as the kobe and it was $78 (for two, remember).
Unless it is something you want to do for the hell of it, there is no reason to run the bill up with the kobe.

I'm sure OP will get a great meal either place. I really think their styles are totally different - my wife's lamb was encrusted with bacon and bread crumbs, was over goat cheese grits, and had a rosemary reduction sauce.
I haven't had the lamb at Craft, but I can guarantee ut will be a great cut of lamb simply prepared and served in a cast iron skillet in a reduction of its own juice from the cooking, with maybe a sprig of rosemary on top. Totally different styles.

growlers 07-07-2006 02:36 PM

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Growler's, nice that you mentioned Rosemary's ... that is such a great place, but being far off the strip, I don't think it always get's the attention it deserves.

I totally agree with you about being underwhelmed by Nobu.

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Yeah, the tasting menu there at Rosemary's is just incredible. They also will pair it up with beer selections for each course instead of wine [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

They put out a coupon in those "value paks" that come in the mail for $25 off, so we go every two months and use the coupon! I am a cheap bastard at heart....

I think, as someone pointed out, that Picasso should probably be my next pick. I don't have ANY desire to dress up though, I wear shorts everywhere, so as stupid as it sounds that's why I haven't been there or Prime or Le Cirque. We are a really casual couple.

Places we want to try still (none real formal):
Nob Hill
Boa (there is a 20% off locals deal they have now)
Wynn steakhouse
Aureole
Bouchon

After those above we have hit just about everywhere.
I truly think that Commander's palace is the most underrated place on the strip. And it is actually cheaper than alot of the places we have been discussing. We had our wedding dinner there when we eloped (before we moved here) and have been back several times, I've had most of the menu.
Most overrated for me is Mon Ami Gabi, but my wife really liked it (for some reason [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img])

edit: Oh god, how could I forget - the MOST overrated is Border Grill at Mandalay Bay - I have been dragged there 3 times and I would rather have gone to Del Taco- my food just sucked all three times.
And Sensei at Bellagio was really wierd - the lobster bisque and seafood risotto my wife got were so salty they were almost inedible - I got chicked makhani which was good - I have to conclude it was a bad day with the salt.

VegasNoob 07-07-2006 02:38 PM

Re: Delmonico\'s vs Craft - need advice/opinions
 
Actually, one of the best places I've been in town for an intimate atmosphere is Nob Hill at MGM. They have a row of booths right opposite the bar that seem like your own private room when you're in there. I've never eaten in the main dining room there, just those booths, and I haven't been there in quite a while, so I don't know if the food there is still good (it was fantastic when I was there before).

But as you said, the response to OP was limited to two choices.

And I'm probably a little biased towards Delonico's for romance since we ate there after our wedding.

VegasNoob 07-07-2006 02:41 PM

Re: Delmonico\'s vs Craft - need advice/opinions
 
I'm hungry now.

JBB 07-07-2006 02:45 PM

Re: Delmonico\'s vs Craft - need advice/opinions
 
Delmonico's, not close.

The Caesar prepared table side is very solid, but was a little heavy on the lemon.

Order the mushrooms as a side, they were fantastic.

GoblinMason (Craig) 07-07-2006 02:51 PM

Re: Delmonico\'s vs Craft - need advice/opinions
 
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The Caesar prepared table side is very solid, but was a little heavy on the lemon.

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Yes, I had this too. Excellent, and I'm not much of a caesar fan.


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