wtf???
 

5-10 FCP. 5-max. 1st hand at table, so no reads.

3 limpers, sb completes, hero checks w/ 3 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]6 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

Flop is 3 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]5 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]k [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

Checked around.

Turn is 4 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

Checked around.

River is 3 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

Hero bets, utg raises, button 3 bets.. hero???

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Fold and try to hit the dealer with your cards.

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well you should definitely bet the turn, and I probably bet the flop.

river is a huge WTF

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You bet this flop into 3 limpers? The turn is close, but I don't mind a check there either.
I don't think the river is a very hard muck.

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Muck-city

results
 

yeah, i was torn b/w checking or betting the turn. i don't think it matters much either way. as for the hand, i folded as was shown 54o for utg and k8o for the button. pretty crazy.

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Man, I wish I hadn't read the results, but unfortunately I did (my mistake, certainly not yours). Believe it or not I wanted to call before I saw the results. Maybe I'm just a low level donk that doesn't understand how people at 5/10 play, but what are we putting them on that we're losing to? A better 3? A boat? A straight? Don't all of those (with the exception of a better 3) have to bet the turn? The flop was checked around so it's not like they're trying to trap. For anyone with a straight or set they have to be somewhat concerned with the flush/striaght draws and they'd like to get some value somewhere so I have a hard time believing they have either of those hands. The only thing I think we're behind here is another 3. The pot is somewhat small, but so is the chances of them having another 3. We're getting about 4:1 here and I think we're good 20%. It's even 4.5:1 if we get the other guy to call. If the middle guy caps then it's bad, but we're still getting 11:3 which I'm less thrilled about since it was capped but still it's something.

FWIW I would also bet that turn like it's nobody's business.

Alright, go ahead and tell my why I'm awful again.....

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A better 3?

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Basically. A3 this is a call all day, we just happen to have the second worst 3 in the deck. Due to the nature of the board, we're still losing to 37. Obviously we're also worried about crap slowplays, but it's mostly the better 3.

Edit: BTW, I tried to put in an Edit to my original post because I had changed my mind to call and fling cards at the dealer, but it didn't stick.

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I call because I can't figure out what any of these monkeys have, and I have trip 3's. If you can beat that, good for you.

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So are you saying that you think it's +EV to call or that you would make the call even though it's -EV?

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So are you saying that you think it's +EV to call or that you would make the call even though it's -EV?

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I decided it was +EV to call, but I would still be pretty pissed at having to call two bets on the river.

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I'd bet the turn.

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easy turn bet.

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Im very surprised to see everyone saying it is an easy fold. You see dumb river raises and slowplays all the time online, i would call...

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call there all day. and agreed, turn is an easy bet there, i don't see betting this flop though given the board and the limpers. I think betting turn is easy given pair plus draw.

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1. 2+2 - "easy fold"
2. Results (Hero mucked best hand)
3. 2+2 - "easy call"

Maybe coincidence, just found it funny.

For the record, I fold that river.

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1. 2+2 - "easy fold"
2. Results (Hero mucked best hand)
3. 2+2 - "easy call"

Maybe coincidence, just found it funny.

For the record, I fold that river.

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Yes I saw that trend as well..kind of funny how well people play so well with results.

Anyways, I would have made this call too...but I rox g00t. [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

-Caddy