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PokerBob 07-04-2006 06:40 PM

drugs
 
i have never really understood the allure of illegal drugs. that is not to say that i necessarily oppose their use, i simply don't get it. i have smoked pot 3 times in my life, and hated it. alcohol works just fine for me. just curious.

multious 07-04-2006 06:42 PM

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i feel good for being the first person of many to vote for LSD as wanting to try

Sephus 07-04-2006 06:44 PM

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weird that pot has more votes than alcohol.

Guyon 07-04-2006 06:46 PM

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I expect this poll to be skewed, as users of herion and crack are likely to pawn their computers to support their habits, and are thus unable to access the 2+2 forums to report their drug use [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

-zero- 07-04-2006 06:48 PM

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weird that pot has more votes than alcohol.

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Maybe because if you're underage its easier to get weed than booze?

multious 07-04-2006 06:48 PM

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i cant believe no one wants to do meth?

illeagle 07-04-2006 06:49 PM

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I really want to try peyote and opium. But not at the same time.

I hear heroin OD is the best way to die so I might give that a try that if suicide ever becomes necessary.

Why is crack separate from coke? That's just racist. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

PokerBob 07-04-2006 06:51 PM

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i cant believe no one wants to do meth?

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yeah, there's no risk there at all.

Sephus 07-04-2006 06:53 PM

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weird that pot has more votes than alcohol.

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Maybe because if you're underage its easier to get weed than booze?

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that's one possibility, but it seems like there would be more reasons that work in the other direction.

RunDownHouse 07-04-2006 06:57 PM

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I've only tried booze and pot, and have no desire to try anything else. I was offered some acid when I was down in Buenos Aires, and that would have been an exceptionally consequence-free environment in which to try it out, but I just didn't feel any desire to do so.

I have a slight curiousity about ecstasy, but since it pokes holes in your brain, it pretty much eliminates any urge to take some.

Fast Food Knight 07-04-2006 06:59 PM

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Shrooms, man!

eleventyone 07-04-2006 07:02 PM

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MDMA?

http://www.breuerunleashed.com/Audio...lains_Life.mp3

___ 07-04-2006 07:03 PM

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I don't know why you have to preface the drugs as illegal. They are, but I don't think that has a lot of bearing in most people's enjoyment of them. All it does is create an artificial barrier to their use through social stigmatization.

The government has little place dictating personal morality, and drugs are a perfect example of them doing just that. While it depends on your point of view whether they should be regulated or not, there are many more dangerous and less enjoyable things that are widely accepted in N. America.

I like taking drugs for the experience they give you. Just like some people like to travel to experience a new place, a similar thing can be said of drugs. But that new place is somewhere I already know intimately: my mind. I have realised things about myself and the world that I would have taken a lot longer to figure out without drugs. The change in perspective on myself is educating and satisfying. The entertainment of an intense psychedelic is incomparible.

I'm guessing that nearly everyone who does drugs (at least when they start) does so for similar reasons. They want to change how they feel or how they think, and drugs provide an accesible way to do that. Feeling shy? Drink some liquid courage. Tense? Glaucoma acting up? A little dope should do the trick. Life's got you down? Watch your worries melt away like a spoonful of heroin.

Guyon 07-04-2006 07:05 PM

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Why is crack separate from coke? That's just racist. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

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When my brother (white guy) worked in the kitchen at Hooters, he learned from a co-worker (black guy) in the kitchen about how he would buy regular cocaine and "cut it" through some process to make crack and sell it. He would even ask him if he was interested in buying some from him before he would cut and sell it.

Tron 07-04-2006 07:15 PM

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I want to do every drug, but I'm probably not going to.

Morbo 07-04-2006 07:18 PM

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weird that pot has more votes than alcohol.

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I just chose pot, because I didn't expect alcohol to be in this poll and as pot is the only other drug I've tried I didn't look into the other alternatives once I clicked pot. I suspect this might be the reason for pot leading over alcohol.

eleventyone 07-04-2006 07:26 PM

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I did the same thing.

By-Tor 07-04-2006 08:21 PM

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weird that pot has more votes than alcohol.

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Alcohol isn't a drug. People who smoke pot are generally smarter then most and know this.






...or I'm stoned, picked pot and hit submit before I noticed the rest of the list...

Case Closed 07-04-2006 08:23 PM

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I have a strange urge to try all types of drugs this summer. It's probably going to start this thursday.

EscapePlan9 07-04-2006 08:28 PM

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It took me nearly 6 times to actually get high from smoking pot. Since then I've loved it. Definitely my drug of choice.

I tried X for the first time last night - and it was the most positive experience in my entire life! Not that I would ever do it often... but it was totally worth doing.

You didn't mention shrooms or acid anywhere in your poll! Both of which I want to try sometime.

Also you didn't mention DXM which I've tried. I don't like it on its own that much - but if you have smoke a bowl a little after having a small amount of DXM it's fun.

Darth Poker 07-04-2006 08:35 PM

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You didn't mention shrooms or acid anywhere in your poll! Both of which I want to try sometime.


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umm...acid is LSD dude. yep.

wet work 07-04-2006 08:36 PM

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It took me nearly 6 times to actually get high from smoking pot. Since then I've loved it. Definitely my drug of choice.

I tried X for the first time last night - and it was the most positive experience in my entire life! Not that I would ever do it often... but it was totally worth doing.

You didn't mention shrooms or acid anywhere in your poll! Both of which I want to try sometime.

Also you didn't mention DXM which I've tried. I don't like it on its own that much - but if you have smoke a bowl a little after having a small amount of DXM it's fun.

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Before you try acid I would recommend at least reading up on it a little. One thing you'll learn is that it's also referred to as LSD.

miajag 07-04-2006 08:37 PM

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Only drugs from the list I've done are alcohol (frequently) and pot (less than 5 times in my life, didn't really care for it). I have no desire to try any of the other drugs on the list, including weed, but I am kind of curious about shrooms and would likely try them if the opportunity presented itself.

SackUp 07-04-2006 08:41 PM

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weird that pot has more votes than alcohol.

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I just chose pot, because I didn't expect alcohol to be in this poll and as pot is the only other drug I've tried I didn't look into the other alternatives once I clicked pot. I suspect this might be the reason for pot leading over alcohol.

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same. I've smoked twice and it didn't interest me at all. I don't really have an interest to try any other drugs.

theben 07-04-2006 08:42 PM

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you really should have included a list of common perscription drugs on this list. im sure many here have abused drugs like xanax, aderol, percoset, vicodin, etc and i'm sure almost eveverybody here who has not yet used them will use/test them out at some point.

jws43yale 07-04-2006 08:55 PM

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LSD should be number one on everyone's list. No chance of overdose and no bad side effect while offering a mind bending experience stronger than any other psychadelic.

stabn 07-04-2006 08:55 PM

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Voted alcohol in first nothing in second. I'm pretty boring i guess :P.

pa3lsvt 07-04-2006 09:20 PM

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Tried (on the list): pot, alcohol, LSD.
Drugs I've used that nerdy Poker Bob didn't list: hash, opium, PCP (by accident, I thought the bowl had weed in it until I realized it tasted "funny" - NOT recommended!!!!111)
Drugs I haven't tried but want to: none.

And I smoke cigarettes which weren't on the list but certainly should be.

I really don't drink any more (can't remember the last time I had more than a single beer in a sitting, and probably only had two beers in the last 12 months). Somebody pass me the bong.

Kyo Souma II 07-04-2006 09:23 PM

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I really want to try peyote and opium. But not at the same time.

I hear heroin OD is the best way to die so I might give that a try that if suicide ever becomes necessary.

Why is crack separate from coke? That's just racist. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

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Most opium on the domestic market is very low-grade. All it does for me is stink up my room and give me a headache.

Kyo Souma II 07-04-2006 09:25 PM

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LSD should be number one on everyone's list. No chance of overdose and no bad side effect while offering a mind bending experience stronger than any other psychadelic.

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LSD is probably the third most likely drug, after E and benzos, to exacerbate a pre-existing or as-yet undiscovered mental condition.

Oop. Left PCP off that list. Oh well.

challenger84 07-04-2006 09:27 PM

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It took me nearly 6 times to actually get high from smoking pot. Since then I've loved it. Definitely my drug of choice.

I tried X for the first time last night - and it was the most positive experience in my entire life! Not that I would ever do it often... but it was totally worth doing.

You didn't mention shrooms or acid anywhere in your poll! Both of which I want to try sometime.

Also you didn't mention DXM which I've tried. I don't like it on its own that much - but if you have smoke a bowl a little after having a small amount of DXM it's fun.

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You'll probably want to wait until after you turn 14 to try some of the harder drugs.

amplify 07-04-2006 09:30 PM

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I've done everything but herion, no desire to do any of them any more. Except alcohol, which is probably the worst one anyway.

___ 07-04-2006 09:31 PM

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LSD should be number one on everyone's list. No chance of overdose and no bad side effect while offering a mind bending experience stronger than any other psychadelic.

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This is blatantly untrue. While I agree that LSD is amazing and recommend it to almost anyone, uninformed usage can be frightening and developmentally hazardous. Just because a drug has no long term physical side effects doesn't mean that an unprepared mind can withstand everything that a truly overwhelming LSD trip brings.

The aftereffects of a bad trip can linger long after you sober up. I recommend anyone interested in taking LSD read on of the many FAQs available online, or consult the available literature before doing so. Knowing what to expect, and how to react if things go unexpectedly can significantly mitigate the risks involved.

kibble420 07-04-2006 09:40 PM

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Ludes, man, [censored] ludes!!!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/comedy/guide/im...nisleary_1.jpg

EscapePlan9 07-04-2006 09:56 PM

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It took me nearly 6 times to actually get high from smoking pot. Since then I've loved it. Definitely my drug of choice.

I tried X for the first time last night - and it was the most positive experience in my entire life! Not that I would ever do it often... but it was totally worth doing.

You didn't mention shrooms or acid anywhere in your poll! Both of which I want to try sometime.

Also you didn't mention DXM which I've tried. I don't like it on its own that much - but if you have smoke a bowl a little after having a small amount of DXM it's fun.

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You'll probably want to wait until after you turn 14 to try some of the harder drugs.

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I don't ever want to try any crack/coke/meth/heroin, if that's what you mean. And I'm 22.

I never try drugs without reading up on them. Before I ever do acid I'll read up on it. And yes, I was unaware acid and LSD were synonymous - my bad.

Sadat X 07-04-2006 10:31 PM

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Anyone on OOT who hasn't tried hallucengonic drugs needs to. Don't be scared of having a bad trip, start with a low dose of mushrooms (1-2 grams) and go from there. Mushrooms are safe, cheap and don't have any negative long-term effects.

I'm not saying you're going to find God or anything, but being in an altered state of visual and mental perception really makes you question things and is also VERY entertaining.

Our brains are built to process and group information unconsciously without us having to think about it. Drugs like mushrooms, peyote and LSD effectively take this away from us. For example, you can stare at a dot on the wall and get completely lost in it. You don't just classify it, group it, and put it away. You examine it thoroughly, thinking about IT, not just about what IT is. Not sure if that makes any sense, but those who have done it will surely understand what I'm getting at.


Some things to keep in mind before you do hallucenogenics to avoid a bad trip:

- Be sure to put yourself in a comfortable setting, around people you know and trust.

- Be sure there is nothing serious troubling you before you decide to trip. No GF/BF drama, no looming deadlines, stuff you've put off, etc.

- Don't obsess over anything. Let thoughts come and go.

- Do a reasonable dosage. If it's your first time with shrooms, don't do an eighth. Do a smaller dose to make sure your body can handle it. Different people have different tolerances and drugs effect everyone differently.

- Set aside a period of time for your trip and plan out what you're going to do. This will help ameliorate tension and/or anxiety.


If someone is having a bad trip:

- Physical touch can be helpful in bringing somone back to reality.

- Assure them that you are there for them and that everything is going to be OK.

- Let them work through the bad trip, don't try to solve the problem for them. Doing this can can ultimately be very rewarding for the tripee.


Some things to keep in mind when doing mushrooms:

- Make mushroom tea as opposed to comsuming them directly. Dried mushrooms tend to upset my stomach while tea lessens, if not eliminates this side effect.

- Don't eat before you trip. Mushrooms have a bad habit of upsetting your stomach, as I mentioned. Having an empty stomach will help minimize the discomfort.


That's about it, sorry this got kinda long. Enjoy your drugs everyone!

Dids 07-04-2006 11:04 PM

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Bob,

I'm pretty much like you, but I've really enjoy weed when I've had it.

I can't rule out coke, just 'cause frankly I'm interested. Probably won't even do it though.

mrkilla 07-04-2006 11:16 PM

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any of you who have taken X and didnt vote for doing coke and/or Heroin or even crystal are lying to your selves, Unless you know the dealer direct or tested your pill your self (they sell kits) its mixed with one of the 3 and highly doubtful that its pure MDMA. Unless you did it one time in your life and it was a pure molly.

That being said I voted for them all though heroin and crack were tough but I rulled for because I've smoked opium (not the same but close) for the heroin plus the extasy I've taken has sure been cut by some. Crack was border, but I've smoked coke in a joint before so why not I wanted to score 100% on this test.

Lotsa Hallucinogenic's were missed, shrooms, pcp, peyote...

___ 07-04-2006 11:27 PM

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any of you who have taken X and didnt vote for doing coke and/or Heroin or even crystal are lying to your selves,

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You are being lied to. X pills adulterated with heroin or cocaine are urban legends. Heroin isn't active when eaten or snorted in the dose that would be found in a pill, and cocaine is more expensive than MDMA making it a terrible additive. Again erowid is one of the best drug resources online, and dismisses this.

mrkilla 07-04-2006 11:48 PM

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any of you who have taken X and didnt vote for doing coke and/or Heroin or even crystal are lying to your selves,

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You are being lied to. X pills adulterated with heroin or cocaine are urban legends. Heroin isn't active when eaten or snorted in the dose that would be found in a pill, and cocaine is more expensive than MDMA making it a terrible additive. Again erowid is one of the best drug resources online, and dismisses this.

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Welp true enough I guess I got suckered for the urban legend.

The website I always used for my pills was this

http://www.ecstasydata.org/


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