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AnthonyV 07-03-2006 05:12 PM

$55 - Bleh call, bubble. etc
 
Tough table. BB is being super passive and not abusing the little 'uns to his left. The little uns are abusing me. BB has called me with terrible hands the last two times I've pushed. Bummer.

CO and Button are good $55 regulars.

You call?

PartyPoker $55 Speed Tournament, Big Blind is t1200 with t50 antes (4 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

CO (t1303)
Button (t1137)
Hero (t1765)
BB (t15795)

Preflop: Hero is in SB with 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
CO Pushes, <font color="gray">Button folds</font>, Hero says, "gross."

CarlSpackler 07-03-2006 05:19 PM

Re: $55 - Bleh call, bubble. etc
 
I think you're ahead of CO's range, and you have a bigger stack, so I would call. Even if bb calls and busts you, as long as you beat CO you still take 3rd.

Tony Montana 22 07-03-2006 05:23 PM

Re: $55 - Bleh call, bubble. etc
 
I dont play the $55 so may be totally off base here with my thinking, but I think I let the BB and CO play this one, hope it goes the right way and if not hope for some kind of hand real soon. I certainly dont want to take a weak Ace versus 2 opponents here.

AllinDan 07-03-2006 05:35 PM

Re: $55 - Bleh call, bubble. etc
 
I fold. BB is calling 100 chips, if that fails button is all in in his big blind before you are.

sofere 07-03-2006 05:43 PM

Re: $55 - Bleh call, bubble. etc
 
I agree...you have a decent shot at luckboxing your way straight to second place here. I would be interested to see some math on this...I'm sadly at work now so can't do so.

FoldYourLife 07-03-2006 06:24 PM

Re: $55 - Bleh call, bubble. etc
 
I would call. You are taking a shot to knock out CO w/ what is most likely the better hand, and even if you lose, you are still in better shape than the button.

Sykes 07-03-2006 06:35 PM

Re: $55 - Bleh call, bubble. etc
 
This is gross, I think you need to fold [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img].

But here are the numbers:

If you call and win vs both, equity is: .3311

If you call and win vs bb but lose vs CO, equity is: ~.1265

If you fold and BB beats CO, equity is .2626

If you fold and CO beats BB, equity is .1468

If you call and BB beats you both, equity is .2000 obv

And if you call and lose your equity is 0.

[img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] There are the numbers, now I need the equation.

sofere 07-03-2006 06:42 PM

Re: $55 - Bleh call, bubble. etc
 

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You are taking a shot to knock out CO w/ what is most likely the better hand, and even if you lose, you are still in better shape than the button

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Your assuming that BB won't come along for the ride. That is a very bad assumption.

FoldYourLife 07-03-2006 06:45 PM

Re: $55 - Bleh call, bubble. etc
 
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You are taking a shot to knock out CO w/ what is most likely the better hand, and even if you lose, you are still in better shape than the button

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Your assuming that BB won't come along for the ride. That is a very bad assumption.

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Of course I am assuming BB will call. I want him to call and help knock out CO. The only gross thing is if BB pushes over me and loses, but as I said before, we are still in better shape than the button.

Pudge714 07-03-2006 08:19 PM

Re: $55 - Bleh call, bubble. etc
 
Call.

AnthonyV 07-04-2006 02:36 AM

Re: $55 - Bleh call, bubble. etc
 
I called... based on the discussion here I'm still not sure if that was the right idea...

player1 07-04-2006 03:57 AM

Re: $55 - Bleh call, bubble. etc
 
u mentioned BB was super passive, so i would call. there's a good chance of it being checked down ...

AMT 07-04-2006 04:00 AM

Re: $55 - Bleh call, bubble. etc
 
at the table, in this spot, with your read, im probably calling.

ilya 07-04-2006 04:22 AM

Re: $55 - Bleh call, bubble. etc
 
HeroFoldsCOWin%*0.1468 + HeroFoldsBBWin%*0.2626 = BBWins%*0.2 + COWins*0.1265 + HeroWins*0.3311

Or you mean you need the ranges?

bennies 07-04-2006 05:53 AM

Re: $55 - Bleh call, bubble. etc
 
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I think you're ahead of CO's range, and you have a bigger stack, so I would call. Even if bb calls and busts you, as long as you beat CO you still take 3rd.

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CO is a good player and there is no need for him to jump in here with no FE without a good hand. I don't think we are ahead of his range.

Deuce2High 07-04-2006 06:13 AM

Re: $55 - Bleh call, bubble. etc
 
Opps misread the hand, though the blinds were 200. call


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