Turn decision 3 handed
 

Playing 3 handed poker for a few hands. Vilan is 20/15 over 300 hands. He is on a few of my tables and the only hand we had a big confrontation in, he stacked me when I called a reraise preflop with 77 (I had my reasons) and pushed a low flop. He called with AA and stacked me. In this hand I had no idea what the correct turn line was. Bet small/ fold getting great odds, check behind, or push. Also if anyone thinks I should play the flop differently let me know. Sorry if this should be in midstakes but its getting really crowded down there.


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saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

SB ($1144)
<font color="#C00000">BB ($1867.04)</font>
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($1017.75)</font>

Preflop: Hero is Button with 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $5.
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $35</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $110</font>, Hero calls $85.

Flop: ($245) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $175</font>, Hero calls $175.

pot 600, Turn is the 5 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] I have 744 behind and vilan checks to me.

Re: Turn decision 3 handed
 

what's the turn card

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People tend to have very small reraising ranges in the BB in spots like these. Even three handed I probably fold preflop.

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People tend to have very small reraising ranges in the BB in spots like these. Even three handed I probably fold preflop.

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Are you joking?

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People tend to have very small reraising ranges in the BB in spots like these. Even three handed I probably fold preflop.

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Are you joking?

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No. This is not a squeeze situation. When a BB reraises here he usually has the goods, since, 1) he is OOP 2) there is not much money in the pot vs his reraise amount (risking 110 to win 50). Good players tend not to reraise OOP, with stacks this shallow without TT+ AK+.

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He is on a few of my tables and the only hand we had a big confrontation in, he stacked me when I called a reraise preflop with 77 (I had my reasons) and pushed a low flop. He called with AA and stacked me.

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What were your reasons for calling preflop? Also pushing a low flop with a small PP is horrible. I would rather push KQ than 77.

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he has odds to call for set value preflop....

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he has odds to call for set value preflop....

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Its close and I think BB has just wide engouh range where callling preflop and playing just for set value is not profitable.

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What do you call with if not 99? Are you raising the button with 40% of your hands and folding when the big blind reraises 7/8 times as a default?

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aba your kidding right? i repop with a much wider range from the bb vs a button steal. in fact lately i have been doing more and more of it and less and less calling.

you play 50-100 SH usually right? and you think people repop with only AA/KK in this spot? gimme a break!

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He is on a few of my tables and the only hand we had a big confrontation in, he stacked me when I called a reraise preflop with 77 (I had my reasons) and pushed a low flop. He called with AA and stacked me.

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What were your reasons for calling preflop? Also pushing a low flop with a small PP is horrible. I would rather push KQ than 77.

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He went from normal to super aggressive on 3 tables at the same time for 30 seconds before this hand. While I was deciding he had reraises preflop in action on 2 other tables. I figured, incorrectly, that he was on tilt for some reason, or being super aggro for some other reason.

Why not push, I can maybe get him to fold a better hand and I can protect from overs. Sure I only get called when beat but there are advantages.

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I like a push. Given your history I can actually see worse hands calling you here sometimes. And you protect your hand from overs. If he's got an over, whatever. Now you're aces will get paid off by 88 sometime down the road. I disagree with aba, people will reraise from the BB with KJ here for christ's sake and you'll feel really dumb when some random J hits the river and he ends up taking it down.

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ahnuld, if i remember correctly the 77 hand, the flop wasn't a ragged flop. it was something like JJx, so essentially you were bluffing which i think is better than just pushing on a ragged flop hoping to be vs AK.

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This is the other hand I was refering to.

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BB ($1076.96)
UTG ($615)
MP ($3786.83)
Hero ($985)
SB ($912)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif. SB posts a blind of $5.
[color=#666666]2 folds</font>, [color=#CC3333]Hero raises to $35</font>, [color=#CC3333]SB (poster) raises to $115</font>, [color=#666666]1 fold</font>, Hero calls $85.

Flop: ($250) Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif, 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif [color=#0000FF](2 players)</font>
[color=#CC3333]SB bets $175</font>, Hero calls $865 (All-In), SB calls $617 (All-In).

Turn: ($1907) 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif [color=#0000FF](2 players, 2 all-in)</font>

River: ($1907) Thttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif [color=#0000FF](2 players, 2 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $1907

Results
 

I bet 300, he moves in for my last 444, and I fold getting incredible odds. Smart, ok or stupid?

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People tend to have very small reraising ranges in the BB in spots like these. Even three handed I probably fold preflop.

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Are you joking?

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No. This is not a squeeze situation. When a BB reraises here he usually has the goods, since, 1) he is OOP 2) there is not much money in the pot vs his reraise amount (risking 110 to win 50). Good players tend not to reraise OOP, with stacks this shallow without TT+ AK+.

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this is so so so so so wrong