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turbojunge 07-02-2006 06:19 AM

(33s) AQo facing minraise...should hero push?
 
Villain is 19/13 over 50 hands.

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t100/t200
7 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: t4170
UTG+1: t2610
MP1: t2970
Hero: t1650
Button: t3590
SB: t3730
BB: t1280

Pre-flop: (7 players) Hero is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 raises to t400</font>, MP1 folds, Hero ???

tubasteve 07-02-2006 06:24 AM

Re: (33s) AQo facing minraise...should hero push?
 
fwiw (which might not be much) i would

Anjin 07-02-2006 07:35 AM

Re: (33s) AQo facing minraise...should hero push?
 
Part of the time you'll be a 3:2 favorite, more often you'll be on the weak side of a coin flip. Not terrible, but still a real risk of an early exit. What you have to ask yourself is if you need this pot, and push only if the answer is yes.

Pudge714 07-02-2006 09:04 AM

Re: (33s) AQo facing minraise...should hero push?
 
I shove here.

MaltbyStu 07-02-2006 09:16 AM

Re: (33s) AQo facing minraise...should hero push?
 
I shove but a more cautious person may want to wait to be first in the pot. If you wait, the blinds will take a good chunk of your stack and you may not get a pair of cards as good as this again.

Stu

player1 07-02-2006 10:27 AM

Re: (33s) AQo facing minraise...should hero push?
 
i'll prolly push here. if the 100/200 level is just about to end then all the more reason to push.

apefish 07-02-2006 10:53 AM

Re: (33s) AQo facing minraise...should hero push?
 
Meh. It looks like a push I am neither over-enthusiastic about nor hating.

ger664 07-02-2006 11:32 AM

Re: (33s) AQo facing minraise...should hero push?
 
I would shove here.
You have better FE against the 2 bigger stacks behind here then you will get later when if you have to open push into them.

TravestyFund 07-02-2006 01:07 PM

Re: (33s) AQo facing minraise...should hero push?
 
I like shove

AMT 07-02-2006 01:15 PM

Re: (33s) AQo facing minraise...should hero push?
 
i think shoving is ok and folding is not a big mistake.

crzylgs 07-02-2006 01:25 PM

Re: (33s) AQo facing minraise...should hero push?
 
You push. Only way I would ever fold against this villain is if this is the first time I've ever seen him minraise.

TravestyFund 07-02-2006 01:33 PM

Re: (33s) AQo facing minraise...should hero push?
 
[ QUOTE ]
i think shoving is ok and folding is not a big mistake.

[/ QUOTE ]

I dont think you should ever fold in this spot. AQ crushes his PF min-raising range and with a fold from villain (which is all too likely) you pad youre stack by ~42%.

stupidsucker 07-02-2006 02:05 PM

Re: (33s) AQo facing minraise...should hero push?
 
I think this is 100% read based. I am not sure exactly what you mean by villain is 19/13.

If this is the first minraise you have seen then I lean towards fold. If he minriases a lot preflop then I push. If you have no read I feel it really doesn't matter much.

If villain pushed would you call? He may not have odds to call you with just about anything he would have raised with, but AK he will obviously call, and as long as it is HU he will likely call with any pp as well.

Do you have any read on BB at all? will the BB defend with a raise or will he stop N go?

If you were the BB it is an easy push/defend, but folding here is by no means terrible in my opinion.

vinyard 07-02-2006 02:33 PM

Re: (33s) AQo facing minraise...should hero push?
 
[ QUOTE ]
I think this is 100% read based. I am not sure exactly what you mean by villain is 19/13.

[/ QUOTE ] Its an often used convention. First number is VP$IP and second is PFR.

OP: I grit my teeth and push this. If he is actually raising 13% you are ahead like 53/47 you have 8 BBS, you should have some FE, its **seven** handed there is nearly 50% of your stack in the middle and this would be a clear trivial push without a limper/minraiser. Also these types that tend to raise a lot of marginal hands will also limp there premium pairs setting the Party Donkey Trap.

I hate a fold here and am not terribly comfortable with a call if BB has any idea what he is doing.

flyty86 07-02-2006 03:20 PM

Re: (33s) AQo facing minraise...should hero push?
 
you have fold equity + there is 700 in the pot + your stack is only at 1600 = pooooshhhhhhhhhh, i think


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