$55r How would you play AK in the Money
 

This one has been bothering me since I played it a few hours ago. Villian has been quite since the bubble burst 18 hands ago. The short stack is playing a bit tight.

How should this be played?

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t400 with t25 antes (3 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

Button (t1800)
SB (t7080)
Hero (t4620)

Preflop: Hero is in BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
<font color="gray">Button folds</font>, <font color="red">SB raises to t1200</font> <font color="white"> </font>

Re: $55r How would you play AK in the Money
 

Push

Re: $55r How would you play AK in the Money
 

How short does short stack need to be before this is no longer a push?

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I think it doesn't matter how small button is, I go for 1st, so it's a easy push.

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I think it doesn't matter how small button is, I go for 1st, so it's a easy push.

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This is wrong, but he has to be pretty short. Like 700-800 or something. I'm too lazy to do the calcs so that's just my guess.

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I think it doesn't matter how small button is, I go for 1st, so it's a easy push.

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This is wrong, but he has to be pretty short. Like 700-800 or something. I'm too lazy to do the calcs so that's just my guess.

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I would NEVER fold AK when I'm ITM no matter what.

Re: $55r How would you play AK in the Money
 

I don't think he means fold it, I think he means raise, but not all-in

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Personally I'd push unless button had like a micro stack.

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I think it doesn't matter how small button is, I go for 1st, so it's a easy push.

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This is wrong, but he has to be pretty short. Like 700-800 or something. I'm too lazy to do the calcs so that's just my guess.

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I would NEVER fold AK when I'm ITM no matter what.

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Do you own SNGPT?

If you don't, you should really download it and think about ICM concepts and realize how there are obvious situations where folding AK ITM is the correct play.

If you do... wtf?

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I think it doesn't matter how small button is, I go for 1st, so it's a easy push.

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This is wrong, but he has to be pretty short. Like 700-800 or something. I'm too lazy to do the calcs so that's just my guess.

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I would NEVER fold AK when I'm ITM no matter what.

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Do you own SNGPT?

If you don't, you should really download it and think about ICM concepts and realize how there are obvious situations where folding AK ITM is the correct play.

If you do... wtf?

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Yup I own SNGPT, but didn't check it.
Can see it's a pretty clear fold if SB push, didn't know that.
But to me it looks like he is stealing the blind so if I come over the top I think you have some FE.

I dunno, I'm a $11 donk.

Re: $55r How would you play AK in the Money
 

easy shove

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easy shove

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Re: $55r How would you play AK in the Money
 

Here is an ICM calculation.

Suppose Villian is raising 20% and is calling my push with the top 10%.

My equity when I double up .4265.

My equity when he folds to the push is.3692.

I win 57% of the time when called.

So I'm getting

(1/2)*(0.57*0.4265+0.43*0.2)+(1/2)*0.3692= .349

My equity before the hand was .346.

Hmmm, it's close. I pushed at the time but am still wondering if a call would have been more profitable given my read of a tight short stack.

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yep - push.

Re: $55r How would you play AK in the Money
 

push push push...

Re: $55r How would you play AK in the Money
 

i've been toying with a simple min raise in these spots. so you can accordingly call villain's attempt at a resteal. also, allowing you to fold if your hand wasn't "allin-able". too early to tell, but so far so good.

however, pushing (and doing what sngpt tells you) is all good especially when your multitabling...

Re: $55r How would you play AK in the Money
 

A call would be HORRIBLE here IMO. Your calling off to much of your stack and if he fires a continuation bet at you, you're stuck somewhere between the moon and NYC.

Either push or fold. If he's calling the reraise 100% of the time, a push is profitable if hes raising top 15% or more.

Well he ain't calling 100% of the time, and he is raising more than top 15% so push away.

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Here is an ICM calculation.

Suppose Villian is raising 20% and is calling my push with the top 10%.

My equity when I double up .4265.

My equity when he folds to the push is.3692.

I win 57% of the time when called.

So I'm getting

(1/2)*(0.57*0.4265+0.43*0.2)+(1/2)*0.3692= .349

My equity before the hand was .346.

Hmmm, it's close. I pushed at the time but am still wondering if a call would have been more profitable given my read of a tight short stack.

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Given these assumptions, it's a clear fold. Intuitively, I would have pushed, too, in that position.

your equity if you fold is 0.337

Given that he raised, if you push he will fold half the time, making your equity (0.5 * 0.57 * .426) + (0.5 * 0.369) = 0.306 &lt; 0.337

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I think you left out the .2 equity when he calls and you lose (from having already locked up 3rd place). With that correction

.349 (pushing) &gt; .337 (folding)