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Just an idea I had....

If any of the more experienced casino whores are interested, I think it would be awesome if we took a couple newer players under our wings and guided them through which casinos to play.

I know there are sites like casinodave, casinobonuspages , and casinobonuswhores , and all of them have great info, but maybe this would allow more of a personalized whoring plan based on a players BR, acceptance of risk, etc.

Additionally, we can refer the newer players to have them get the RAF bonuses (chopped), which is probably a significant addition to any players roll.

I'm obviously willing to help (Why else would I make this post?), but is anyone else interested? Anyone looking for help, just PM me or someone else who responds in this thread, and we can help you out.

Anyone who is thinking about giving casinos a try, I highly recommend it. Take $100 from your poker roll, and you can easily turn it into 2k-3k from just the easy 20/25x places.

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i'm down, mentor me first!

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What is wrong with you people? Why would someone experienced want to bring more people into a dying industry and decrease their own profits? The train left the station close to two years ago. There isn't much money in this anymore.

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What is wrong with you people? Why would someone experienced want to bring more people into a dying industry and decrease their own profits? The train left the station close to two years ago. There isn't much money in this anymore.

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just went up 2 grand in about 20 hours of whoring, whatever

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What is wrong with you people? Why would someone experienced want to bring more people into a dying industry and decrease their own profits? The train left the station close to two years ago. There isn't much money in this anymore.

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just went up 2 grand in about 20 hours of whoring, whatever

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In 6 months at this rate and with this kind of help, 20 hours will get you about $200... don't all you people remember even 18 months ago when there were more than 15-20 autoplay BJ bonuses?!?! What happened to all those? Oh yeah... they were posted to 2+2 and now they're all dead...

Good grief... the Integrity group was posted to the zoo and they went bankrupt!!! 2+2 is too large of a userbase to support easy casino whoring information. A bonus like playvegasfromhome or goldenpalace group is posted and hit by 1000 people within 2 days, then it changes for the worse.

I was all helpful when I first got started, then I saw more and more bonuses die before I ever got to them. Sharing casino whoring information with the public is -EV. Tell a few if your close friends if you want... most will crash and burn, some will thank you. Telling everyone is bad business. It's like going on Party tables and telling everyone to come to 2+2 because they'll learn how to play better.

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What is wrong with you people? Why would someone experienced want to bring more people into a dying industry and decrease their own profits? The train left the station close to two years ago. There isn't much money in this anymore.

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just went up 2 grand in about 20 hours of whoring, whatever

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In 6 months at this rate and with this kind of help, 20 hours will get you about $200... don't all you people remember even 18 months ago when there were more than 15-20 autoplay BJ bonuses?!?! What happened to all those? Oh yeah... they were posted to 2+2 and now they're all dead...

Good grief... the Integrity group was posted to the zoo and they went bankrupt!!! 2+2 is too large of a userbase to support easy casino whoring information. A bonus like playvegasfromhome or goldenpalace group is posted and hit by 1000 people within 2 days, then it changes for the worse.

I was all helpful when I first got started, then I saw more and more bonuses die before I ever got to them. Sharing casino whoring information with the public is -EV. Tell a few if your close friends if you want... most will crash and burn, some will thank you. Telling everyone is bad business. It's like going on Party tables and telling everyone to come to 2+2 because they'll learn how to play better.

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I totally agree with this post. Back in the casino heyday, I could hit up those autoplays, sit back, crack open a beer and watch myself win money with no effort. CON and reef club were $200, 10xB casinos, after hitting those up a few times and not to mention their $200 CPA progam and this was truly a no risk proposition.

There's no reward in being the good samaritan, bonuses get ruined, one of the latest examples being playvegasfromhome. I litterally got no sleep one night implementing some 'alternative methods' in order to hit that bonus as many times as I could knowing that it would be gone the next day. I was surprised it even lasted 3-4 days. You knew it was only a matter a time when it went from 20xB to 35xB virtually overnight.

Bottom line is, good luck with the mentoring, I have no objections to that. But if you think experienced whores are going to help you, don't count on it. Well, let me rephrase that, don't expect experienced whores to tolerate with freeloaders, it's just nothing be -EV in the end. and one thing i hate more is -EV.

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ImsaKidd I've just started whoring doing the easy grand from casinobonuswhores right now [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

daPlayboy & Freakin... where would you be now if the orginal whores thought like you are thinking now??? A few more whores won't make that much of a difference it might be -0.0000000000000000000000000000001 EV to you personally.

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Everyone saying I'm screwing myself:

If I have already hit a site, how does telling more whores about it influence me at all?

Also, I am not telling thousands of people, since each person has to contact me individually. This will be like 50 people max. Most of the bonuses will be ones that have been posted on casinodave and other similar sites, just that I will help with each individual situation.

EDIT: Anyone who PM's me, please include email and AIM SN. Thanks

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You're mine hero [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

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Everyone saying I'm screwing myself:

If I have already hit a site, how does telling more whores about it influence me at all?

Also, I am not telling thousands of people, since each person has to contact me individually. This will be like 50 people max. Most of the bonuses will be ones that have been posted on casinodave and other similar sites, just that I will help with each individual situation.

EDIT: Anyone who PM's me, please include email and AIM SN. Thanks

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I didn't say you're screwing yourself. I said you're screwing everybody. There are bonuses you haven't done yet. The more whores there are, the higher the chance that those bonuses are gone by the time you get to them (or someone else gets to them). It doesn't matter what you teach someone.... What if the next guy you mentor decides he wants to gnome and hits all the best bonuses with 50 accounts each? Then he goes and tells his friends and they all do the same thing?

You don't get it now, but you will later... The total EV for a new casino whore has probably dropped to 20% of what it was a year ago, and that's with higher playthrough. You understand that at least, right?

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Freakin:

Yes, I understand. I still doubt adding 20 people to the whoring community is going to vastly change anything.

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Yes, I understand. I still doubt adding 20 people to the whoring community is going to vastly change anything.

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actually I think it would. Some of those 20 people will tell some of their friends, and some of their friends will tell some of their friends and onwards.

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and you will add more than 20 by doing something like this on 2+2

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and you will add more than 20 by doing something like this on 2+2

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Im giving info out on an individual basis, not making a big post on the forum. It's not like im doubling the whoring community by doing this.

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playvegasfromhome. I litterally got no sleep one night implementing some 'alternative methods' in order to hit that bonus as many times as I could knowing that it would be gone the next day.

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"As many times as I could?" Um, unless I'm misreading your post, greedy gnoming cheaters like you are a far bigger problem then posts on an internet message board

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I think it is a good idea, but then again I don't know anything about casino whoring.

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and you will add more than 20 by doing something like this on 2+2

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Im giving info out on an individual basis, not making a big post on the forum. It's not like im doubling the whoring community by doing this.

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I certainly didn't expect to change your mind, but try to be selective about who you mentor. You're not making large public posts about it, but one of your diciples might...

You know why Denmark is banned from receiving bonuses at pretty much every casino, right?

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You know why Denmark is banned from receiving bonuses at pretty much every casino, right?

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Nope. I would like to know though.

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You know why Denmark is banned from receiving bonuses at pretty much every casino, right?

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Nope. I would like to know though.

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People decided to share casino whoring with everyone else. They even went so far as to broadcast TV shows on how to casino whore. Casinos decided that they were getting too many bonus whores from Denmark and cut them off.

They thought they were being helpful, but they wound up shooting themselves in the foot.

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I dont think this is the same though. I'm not gonna have a TV show....

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Combining 2+2 and anything involving casino whoring is incredibly -EV. If you don't already understand this you will in six months when half of your monthly bonuses have turned for the worse or disapeared. It isn't a coincidence that every casino whoring encouragment post is from someone new to this.

It isn't like all of this information isn't already all out there. This isn't an elite club. Anyone who is willing to do the research will find all of the bonuses. This just cuts back on the freeloaders that read one thread on 2+2 and start spamming this stuff to all their friends because they haven't had to spend any time on this themselves and don't value the knowledge.

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Not to sound like a dick, but I've put hundreds of hours into researching bonuses and methods of attacking them. I'm not giving up my hourly rate just to help people get rich.

Sorry.

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i'm down, mentor me first!

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mentor me second. no casino experience yet. thx.

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You know why Denmark is banned from receiving bonuses at pretty much every casino, right?

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Nope. I would like to know though.

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Yeah I want you as a mentor, that's pretty much the oldest story in the biz kid.

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I don't remember where he got this list but this is what my mentor gave me. It was very helpful, in the proper context.

1cnp Casino
Arcada Casino
Bringmeluck Casino
Casinobar
Casinoonair
Casino Onliner
Destination Poker
Dice of Fire
Fivestar-casino
Goldbetting Casino
Hamptons Casino
ixcasino
Joker-club
Joyland Casino
Ladydream Casino
Largo Casino
Luckydog Sports
Lucknrollcasino
Lucky Trump Casino
Lucknrollcasino
Magic Trump Casino
Portifino Casino
Rochester Casino
Royal Dutch Casino
Roman Casino
Slots Alley
Trump Casino
Windows Casino
Xraycasino
Zexcasino

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Yes, these types of lists I have no problem helping out with.

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I don't remember where he got this list but this is what my mentor gave me. It was very helpful, in the proper context.

1cnp Casino
Arcada Casino
Bringmeluck Casino
Casinobar
Casinoonair
Casino Onliner
Destination Poker
Dice of Fire
Fivestar-casino
Goldbetting Casino
Hamptons Casino
ixcasino
Joker-club
Joyland Casino
Ladydream Casino
Largo Casino
Luckydog Sports
Lucknrollcasino
Lucky Trump Casino
Lucknrollcasino
Magic Trump Casino
Portifino Casino
Rochester Casino
Royal Dutch Casino
Roman Casino
Slots Alley
Trump Casino
Windows Casino
Xraycasino
Zexcasino

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There is a difference between deciding not to help and by deliberately sending idiots to loose their money. One of the two, to many people, its morally objectionable. I would suggest you delete your post though...

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I don't remember where he got this list but this is what my mentor gave me. It was very helpful, in the proper context.

1cnp Casino
Arcada Casino
Bringmeluck Casino
Casinobar
Casinoonair
Casino Onliner
Destination Poker
Dice of Fire
Fivestar-casino
Goldbetting Casino
Hamptons Casino
ixcasino
Joker-club
Joyland Casino
Ladydream Casino
Largo Casino
Luckydog Sports
Lucknrollcasino
Lucky Trump Casino
Lucknrollcasino
Magic Trump Casino
Portifino Casino
Rochester Casino
Royal Dutch Casino
Roman Casino
Slots Alley
Trump Casino
Windows Casino
Xraycasino
Zexcasino

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So everyone knows, these are all rogued casinos. Stay away from these.

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I don't remember where he got this list but this is what my mentor gave me. It was very helpful, in the proper context.

1cnp Casino
Arcada Casino
Bringmeluck Casino
Casinobar
Casinoonair
Casino Onliner
Destination Poker
Dice of Fire
Fivestar-casino
Goldbetting Casino
Hamptons Casino
ixcasino
Joker-club
Joyland Casino
Ladydream Casino
Largo Casino
Luckydog Sports
Lucknrollcasino
Lucky Trump Casino
Lucknrollcasino
Magic Trump Casino
Portifino Casino
Rochester Casino
Royal Dutch Casino
Roman Casino
Slots Alley
Trump Casino
Windows Casino
Xraycasino
Zexcasino

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There is a difference between deciding not to help and by deliberately sending idiots to loose their money. One of the two, to many people, its morally objectionable. I would suggest you delete your post though...

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I re-read my post and I do not believe that there is any objectionable content.

I found this list to be as valuable as this one:
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showth...rue#Post5947247

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You know why Denmark is banned from receiving bonuses at pretty much every casino, right?

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Nope. I would like to know though.

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Yeah I want you as a mentor, that's pretty much the oldest story in the biz kid.

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I have only been legal to play online for 9 months. Sorry that I don't know why people in Denmark cant play at casinos anymore.

I still dont understand all the hostility, but I have found a couple new bonuses from people i've mentored. Maybe this makes me "unfit" to mentor. I've still been a successful casino player.

kyle: Care to explain how sharing knowledge you have already used is -EV to you?

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Its -Ev to share the info, because other casinos see what happens to casinos like playvegasfromhome. When they are starting out they are less likely to offer a good signup bonus. As well other casinos that you've played at start up sister sites with poor terms because tons of ppl whore them to death.

Not to mention the downgrades of reloads.

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Its -Ev to share the info, because other casinos see what happens to casinos like playvegasfromhome. When they are starting out they are less likely to offer a good signup bonus. As well other casinos that you've played at start up sister sites with poor terms because tons of ppl whore them to death.

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True. I actually never though about this. I still dont think its gonna be a significant %, but still an effect i guess.

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I dont think this is the same though. I'm not gonna have a TV show....

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You're new. You haven't seen what happens when this site gets ahold of a bonus.

Do yourself a favor and search the Zoo for posts about Captain Cook's Casino made sometime around April of 2005.

This site was part of a group. The bonuses were great, and the group had a great rep. A few days after being discussed here (actually the Zoo, becuase the bonus forum wasn't created yet) everyone's accounts were locked, payments stalled, and eventually the group had to sell to another group.

This all happened because 2+2 got a hold of a bonus.

You can also search for posts about the Mainstreet Group from about a year ago.

Oh, and search for playvegasfromhome posts from just a few weeks ago.

Bonuses are -EV for casinos. The more whores that hit casinos, mean that the casinos loose more money. There is a point at which casinos can't afford to pay out one more whore. That's where problems start. Best case, everyone gets paid and the bonus terms get changed. The worst case is the casino closed and keeps everyone's money.

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You're new. You haven't seen what happens when this site gets ahold of a bonus.

Do yourself a favor and search the Zoo for posts about Captain Cook's Casino made sometime around April of 2005.

This site was part of a group. The bonuses were great, and the group had a great rep. A few days after being discussed here (actually the Zoo, becuase the bonus forum wasn't created yet) everyone's accounts were locked, payments stalled, and eventually the group had to sell to another group.

This all happened because 2+2 got a hold of a bonus.

You can also search for posts about the Mainstreet Group from about a year ago.

Oh, and search for playvegasfromhome posts from just a few weeks ago.

Bonuses are -EV for casinos. The more whores that hit casinos, mean that the casinos loose more money. There is a point at which casinos can't afford to pay out one more whore. That's where problems start. Best case, everyone gets paid and the bonus terms get changed. The worst case is the casino closed and keeps everyone's money.

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Or when a casino doesn't close and keeps everyone's money...

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You're new. You haven't seen what happens w

hen this site gets ahold of a bonus.

Do yourself a favor and search the Zoo for posts about Captain Cook's Casino made sometime around April of 2005.

This site was part of a group. The bonuses were great, and the group had a great rep. A few days after being discussed here (actually the Zoo, becuase the bonus forum wasn't created yet) everyone's accounts were locked, payments stalled, and eventually the group had to sell to another group.

This all happened because 2+2 got a hold of a bonus.

You can also search for posts about the Mainstreet Group from about a year ago.

Oh, and search for playvegasfromhome posts from just a few weeks ago.

Bonuses are -EV for casinos. The more whores that hit casinos, mean that the casinos loose more money. There is a point at which casinos can't afford to pay out one more whore. That's where problems start. Best case, everyone gets paid and the bonus terms get changed. The worst case is the casino closed and keeps everyone's money.

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Or when a casino doesn't close and keeps everyone's money...

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A casino can do that, bonus whores or not.

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What is wrong with you people? Why would someone experienced want to bring more people into a dying industry and decrease their own profits? The train left the station close to two years ago. There isn't much money in this anymore.

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I love it when people call casino whoring an "industry". It makes it sound so respectable and productive.

"Johnson, our Scranton client needs 5000 hands of Blackjack and another 2500 hands of Jacks or Better by the end of the day."

"I'm on it, boss!"

The most charitable word I can find to describe casino whoring is opportunity. I have no problem passing information about those opportunities on to other people. I've made a nice chunk of side income in less than a year, so if it disappears tomorrow, I'll be way ahead. I'm certainly not concerned about anyone who's been doing this for years. They've more than likely made a huge amount of money already. If they have to find a real job or cut back on vacations, I can live with that.

I know the attitude I saw at the Bonus Whores forum has made me more likely to share information. Anything that upsets those clowns makes me happy.

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What is wrong with you people? Why would someone experienced want to bring more people into a dying industry and decrease their own profits? The train left the station close to two years ago. There isn't much money in this anymore.

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I love it when people call casino whoring an "industry". It makes it sound so respectable and productive.

"Johnson, our Scranton client needs 5000 hands of Blackjack and another 2500 hands of Jacks or Better by the end of the day."

"I'm on it, boss!"

The most charitable word I can find to describe casino whoring is opportunity. I have no problem passing information about those opportunities on to other people. I've made a nice chunk of side income in less than a year, so if it disappears tomorrow, I'll be way ahead. I'm certainly not concerned about anyone who's been doing this for years. They've more than likely made a huge amount of money already. If they have to find a real job or cut back on vacations, I can live with that.

I know the attitude I saw at the Bonus Whores forum has made me more likely to share information. Anything that upsets those clowns makes me happy.

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Those "clowns" as you have put it were the founders of this section of the forum. you owe a lot of your whoring knowledge to them...whether you directly got it from them or not.

I dont care for BW anymore myself either....but for real reasons, not becasue they wouldnt share all their secrets with some noob that should be doing his own footwork. Jek and them at least deserve respect, even if presonally you dont care for them.

To call people that have HELPED YOU GET FREE MONEY "clowns" (sighs) ....bad form my friend....go elsewhere.

Do your own research. Then you wont need 2p2 or Bw.

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Do your own research. Then you wont need 2p2 or Bw.

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Or any of the many forums that reposted information directly from BW

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Do your own research. Then you wont need 2p2 or Bw.

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Or any of the many forums that reposted information directly from BW

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yup......

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Just an idea I had....

If any of the more experienced casino whores are interested, I think it would be awesome if we took a couple newer players under our wings and guided them through which casinos to play.

I know there are sites like casinodave, casinobonuspages , and casinobonuswhores , and all of them have great info, but maybe this would allow more of a personalized whoring plan based on a players BR, acceptance of risk, etc.

Additionally, we can refer the newer players to have them get the RAF bonuses (chopped), which is probably a significant addition to any players roll.

I'm obviously willing to help (Why else would I make this post?), but is anyone else interested? Anyone looking for help, just PM me or someone else who responds in this thread, and we can help you out.

Anyone who is thinking about giving casinos a try, I highly recommend it. Take $100 from your poker roll, and you can easily turn it into 2k-3k from just the easy 20/25x places.

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RAF bonuses are bad news in this game. Once a casino detects a "bonus abuser" they also assume that everyon linked to them is also a "bonus abuser"

So player A refers 10 people. One of them does something wrong and the casino locks his account. Guess what's next. The casino locks all 10 people's accounts. This is the easiest way a casino can protect itself from "bonus abuser rings". Read any casino's T&C's and it will be clear their #1 fear is getting hit by one of these rings.

They are always on the lookout for signs of such rings and RAF are the first thing they look for.