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Sgt Fishwife 06-22-2006 06:55 AM

$11 PP bubble push
 
How is this play? Good? Terrible? I'm relatively new to the SNG game so I don't know whether it's better to wait for CO to bust or to play it more aggressively. Thanks.

PartyPoker Regular Tournament, Big Blind is t400 (4 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

CO (t1239)
Button (t7381)
Hero (t3070)
BB (t8310)

Preflop: Hero is in SB with 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
<font color="gray">CO folds</font>, <font color="gray">Button folds</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to t2870</font>

Sgt Fishwife 06-22-2006 07:09 AM

Re: $11 PP bubble push
 
That should be, "raises to 3070 (all in)". I don't know what's up with that.

fallen 06-22-2006 07:10 AM

Re: $11 PP bubble push
 
I would push here mainly because there's no guarantee that CO won't double up. Also I've noticed some players will fold until they are literally all-in on the blind so you can't be sure he'll go all-in on the next hand.
Depending on the type of player BB is he may not call here. He's in a good position chip wise &amp; if he doubles you up now with a rubbish hand he's made you alot stronger &amp; himself alot weaker.

***Disclaimer***
I'm just as new as you I would think so my advice is probably not worth that much yet.

mackthefork 06-22-2006 08:04 AM

Re: $11 PP bubble push
 
Easy push man, very standard, keep it up.

Mack

FeNeF 06-22-2006 09:51 AM

Re: $11 PP bubble push
 
Yes, good push. The shortass makes this VERY unpleasant when KT calls and busts you, but you have to grit your teeth and do it.

TruFloridaGator 06-22-2006 09:55 AM

Re: $11 PP bubble push
 
Definately push. Shortie isn't short enough.

FeNeF 06-22-2006 09:58 AM

Re: $11 PP bubble push
 
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Definately push. Shortie isn't short enough.

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Yeah, but it sucks when you lose and see that smug bastard sitting there with his microstack stupid donkey you deserve that money grrrgajgjeargjaeip

Jay Riall 06-22-2006 09:58 AM

Re: $11 PP bubble push
 
Only way I'm folding is if shorty is under 400 chips.

TruFloridaGator 06-22-2006 09:59 AM

Re: $11 PP bubble push
 
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Definately push. Shortie isn't short enough.

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Yeah, but it sucks when you lose and see that smug bastard sitting there with his microstack stupid donkey you deserve that money grrrgajgjeargjaeip

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[img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] Move on. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

Jay Riall 06-22-2006 10:03 AM

Re: $11 PP bubble push
 
Do what I do and bitch and moan like a little pussy and get laughed at by the people you live with.

mackthefork 06-22-2006 10:29 AM

Re: $11 PP bubble push
 
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Yes, good push. The shortass makes this VERY unpleasant when KT calls and busts you, but you have to grit your teeth and do it.

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If KT calls it might be a bad push, I don't know.

Mack

Sgt Fishwife 06-22-2006 10:35 AM

Re: $11 PP bubble push
 
I see, thanks all.

So there IS a point where the short stack is so likely to bust that I shouldn't push the two sevens? Give 900 of his chips to the Button so that he has only 300 chips left. Do I have a very clear fold then?

TruFloridaGator 06-22-2006 10:46 AM

Re: $11 PP bubble push
 
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I see, thanks all.

So there IS a point where the short stack is so likely to bust that I shouldn't push the two sevens? Give 900 of his chips to the Button so that he has only 300 chips left. Do I have a very clear fold then?

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You could probably safely fold if he had like 600 &amp; was about to get blinded next hand.

PokerIsLife 06-22-2006 11:01 AM

Re: $11 PP bubble push
 
Fold. You're not desperate with your current stack, and your pushing into a big stack which will call you with a pretty big range that will result in a coin flip majority of the time. If there wasn't a short stack in this about to enter the blinds, then the push would be good.

TruFloridaGator 06-22-2006 11:03 AM

Re: $11 PP bubble push
 
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Fold. Your stack is health, and your pushing into a big stack which will call you with a pretty big range that will result in a coin flip majority of the time. If there wasn't a short stack in this, then the push would be good.

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You're giving up way too much EV by folding. Not only that but you can't guarantee the shortie will bust.


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