The Nuts I think I screwed this up
 

***** Hand History for Game 4506981913 *****
0/0 Texas Hold'em Game Table (NL) - Tue Jun 13 14:28:43 EDT 2006
Table Just Relax (Real Money) -- Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 1: willisjs ( $1000)
Seat 2: HMM_SURE ( $978.50)
Seat 3: PwNoobs ( $2128)
Seat 4: EmpireMaker2 ( $2211)
Seat 5: HappyPlayng ( $1953)
Seat 6: llmaniglia ( $0)
EmpireMaker2 posts small blind (5)
HappyPlayng posts big blind (10)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to EmpireMaker2 [ Th, Jh ]
HMM_SURE folds.
PwNoobs folds.
EmpireMaker2 raises (31) to 36
HappyPlayng raises (100) to 110
EmpireMaker2 calls (74)
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Jc, 6s, Ts ]
EmpireMaker2 checks.
HappyPlayng bets (140)
EmpireMaker2 raises (599) to 599
HappyPlayng calls (459)
** Dealing Turn ** : [ Jd ]
EmpireMaker2 checks.
HappyPlayng checks.
** Dealing River ** : [ 7s ]
EmpireMaker2 bets (1000)
HappyPlayng folds.
** Summary **
Main Pot: $2416 | Rake: $2
Board: [ Jc 6s Ts Jd 7s ]

willisjs balance $1000, sits out
HMM_SURE balance $978.50, didn't bet (folded)
PwNoobs balance $2128, didn't bet (folded)
EmpireMaker2 balance $2918, bet $1709, collected $2416, net +$707
HappyPlayng balance $1244, lost $709 (folded)
JbStewardess balance $1000, sits out

Re: The Nuts I think I screwed this up
 

What do you put him on when he calls your CR on the flop? Will he check a draw behind on the turn? Dont post results next time you post a hand.

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What do you put him on when he calls your CR on the flop? Will he check a draw behind on the turn? Dont post results next time you post a hand.

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K sorry

I put him on AA-QQ IMO......I cant really see what else he could have......

Re: The Nuts I think I screwed this up
 

Yea just bet the turn, you're deep and want all of the money in obv. Good to see HMM_SURE is back at the tables.

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*oppinion probably influenced by results*

Maybe go 400 on the turn, a weak looking bet that might be misconstrued as a blocking bet or a decent hand that a flush draw may think he has odds to chase.

On the river, you bet 2/3 of what you had left, just shove or bet 500 I think. Shoving probably folds an insignificantly fewer amount of hands (than betting 1000) and 500 could be read a lot of ways I think, making a call much more likely and it leaves at least a slight chance he comes over the top with a hand he would fold to a bigger bet.

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Yea just bet the turn, you're deep and want all of the money in obv. Good to see HMM_SURE is back at the tables.

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And HMM_Sure buying in full [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

Re: The Nuts I think I screwed this up
 

you played this one well

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AK spade, u could have bet turn easily and got paid.

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LOL, AK spade great read! he folded the river when he hit the nut flush!

this is obv QQ-AA and you're not gettin any more money once the J hits the turn unless you can convince him you're bluffin.

Re: The Nuts I think I screwed this up
 

Pot the turn. He either has a hand he can not get away from, like a lower fullhouse or AJ or something, or he has a hand that can only call your bet if he thinks you are bluffing. I think you sell draw the best, by potting the turn.

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I'd think he'd repop the flop with a big hand, so my guess is he has some sort of draw or maybe a semi-decent hand that he's looking for a cheap showdown. He probably isn't putting much money in if he has a cheap showdown hand.

2 options I see:

1) Bet something smallish on the turn, like 500 or so. Perhaps he'll call with a draw.

2) Once you check the turn, I like checking the river as well, since a spade draw got there.

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Why do people think he has AJ or a draw or something? HE HAS AN OVERPAIR. AKspade is prolly 3-betting allin on the flop, as well as a set. AJ is just very unlikely for a lot of reasons.

Re: The Nuts I think I screwed this up
 

I think villain has AA/KK here. I'm not sure, but maybe that massive flop raise lost you some action on turn and river?

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I think the turn can go either way here; Strassa makes a good point, but he leaves out the fact that villain could be drawing himself. By checking you give him a chance to improve to a second best hand or possibly even get him to fire at the turn where he has to fold to a bet.

I don't mind the way you played it, I have a sneaking suspicion that villain was holding KQ

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villain was not holding KQ. villain was holding AA/KK and is scared about a set/2pair but also doesnt want to fold since it seems to weak to muck an overpair here on the flop when empiremaker can have any of like 300 draws. i dont get why people are havin a difficult time with this one. the turn killed your action against AA/KK. might as well pot the turn like strassa said, and hope villain puts you on a draw/bluff.

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villain was not holding KQ. villain was holding AA/KK and is scared about a set/2pair but also doesnt want to fold since it seems to weak to muck an overpair here on the flop when empiremaker can have any of like 300 draws. i dont get why people are havin a difficult time with this one. the turn killed your action against AA/KK. might as well pot the turn like strassa said, and hope villain puts you on a draw/bluff.

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villain was holding KQ.

Re: The Nuts I think I screwed this up
 

I'd push turn to represent the draw and hope he thinks I'm FOS.

On the flop, I prefer a lead-3bet all-in.