Ann Coulter Poll
 

The Best Thing I Like About Ann Coulter Is.......
 

......she takes the liberal tactics of people like Michael Moore, Barbara Steisand, and Alex Baldwin and dishes it back on the liberals with a conservative slant.

Watching the liberals cry foul reminds me of the phrase that people in glass houses should not throw stones. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Re: The Best Thing I Like About Ann Coulter Is.......
 

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......she takes the liberal tactics of people like Michael Moore, Barbara Steisand, and Alex Baldwin and dishes it back on the liberals with a conservative slant.

Watching the liberals cry foul reminds me of the phrase that people in glass houses should not throw stones. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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Ahhh, yes ... Ann Coulter acting like a complete retard certainly does reflect poorly on liberals.

Re: Ann Coulter Poll
 

You need to create separate polls so you can see what each party thinks of her.

Re: The Best Thing I Like About Ann Coulter Is.......
 

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......she takes the liberal tactics of people like Michael Moore, Barbara Steisand, and Alex Baldwin and dishes it back on the liberals with a conservative slant.

Watching the liberals cry foul reminds me of the phrase that people in glass houses should not throw stones. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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I just can't understand how the same people who don't just think but KNOW that Fox News is biased, that Ann Coulter is offensive and that O'Reilly is the devil also think that the only way someone could think the New York Times is lefist, that Colbert's speech was offensive and inappropriate and that Bill Maher is a moron is if they are complete idiots.
It seems to me that to not be able to recognize that the same types of players exist on both sides is ignorance and arrogance of the worst kind.

Re: Ann Coulter Poll
 

"......she takes the liberal tactics of people like Michael Moore, Barbara Steisand, and Alex Baldwin and dishes it back on the liberals with a conservative slant. "

This isn't 1100 AM, most folks around here think critically when someone says something ridiculous.

Unlike right wing whiners and screamers, Mediamatters.org actually backs up statements with examples.

http://mediamatters.org/issues_topics/people/anncoulter

Coulter: "[b]efore we knew Gore was clinically insane," he "seemed kind of gay"
Thursday, April 27, 2006 11:00AM

Coulter's Swift Boat-style smear of Vietnam veteran Murtha
Thursday, December 1, 2005 7:50PM

Coulter: "I never heard of Scooter Libby until 10 minutes ago"
Friday, October 28, 2005 2:30PM

Re: Ann Coulter Poll
 

I dont think you can compare Coulter and Moore at all.

Man She\'s Funny
 

"I've never seen people enjoying their husbands' deaths so much."

This is what she said about four 9/11 widows who vote Democratic.

How comical.

Re: Man She\'s Funny
 

Anne Coulter is clearly worse than Michael Moore.

Michael Moore is a deluded, self-styled martyr. Anne Coulter is a malicious and deliberate opportunist.

Michael Moore embraces populist conspiracies in order to allow himself empathy for the unwashed masses he feels superior to. Anne Coulter embraces an absolutist party line which brooks no dissent, no empathy and no mercy.

She is not the Andy Kaufman of punditry. She is clearly disturbed.

Re: Man She\'s Funny
 

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"I've never seen people enjoying their husbands' deaths so much."

This is what she said about four 9/11 widows who vote Democratic.

How comical.

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I cant stand her.

However, on the face of it there is nothing wrong with that statement. You dont get a free pass in life simply because your spouse dies.

Re: Ann Coulter Poll
 

Here are a few other quotes from the Female impersonator.


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My only regret with Timothy McVeigh is he did not go to the New York Times Building.
Ann Coulter


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"Frankly, I'm not a big fan of the First Amendment." - University of Florida speech, October 20, 2005 Ann Coulter



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I'll take a guess here that she is not a fan of the 4th either. Classic

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To disabled Vietnam vet Bobby Muller: "No wonder you guys lost." - MSNBC, 1996 Ann Coulter

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Re: Man She\'s Funny
 

"I've never seen people enjoying their husbands' deaths so much."
This is what she said about four 9/11 widows who vote Democratic.
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No she was referring ONLY to the 4 widows who called themselves the "Jersey Girls".
And these harpies said many untrue and ugly things about Bush43 so I enjoyed Anns' comments about them. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Re: Ann Coulter Poll
 

Ann Coulter is entertaining but you really can't take anything she says seriously.

Re: The Best Thing I Like About Ann Coulter Is.......
 

I just can't understand how the same people who don't just think but KNOW that Fox News is biased, that Ann Coulter is offensive and that O'Reilly is the devil also think that the only way someone could think the New York Times is lefist, that Colbert's speech was offensive and inappropriate and that Bill Maher is a moron is if they are complete idiots.
It seems to me that to not be able to recognize that the same types of players exist on both sides is ignorance and arrogance of the worst kind.
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Translation: 'People that don't think like me are stoooopid.'

Re: The Best Thing I Like About Ann Coulter Is.......
 

It seems to me that to not be able to recognize that the same types of players exist on both sides is ignorance and arrogance of the worst kind.

Level 1 ---->
Translation: 'People that don't think like me are stoooopid.'

Then ----->
Translation: 'People that don't think like me are arrogant.'

Then ------->
Translation: 'People that don't think like me are hypocrites.'


blah blah blah blah blah... we all play the game. You'll be happier if you accept it in others and in yourself.

Re: The Best Thing I Like About Ann Coulter Is.......
 

Canis your poll is really popular so far.

Re: Man She\'s Funny
 

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"I've never seen people enjoying their husbands' deaths so much."

This is what she said about four 9/11 widows who vote Democratic.

How comical.

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I don't see anything wrong with a statement like that under certain circumstances. The fact is that the left props up people like Cindy Sheenan so that you can't criticize her without being demonized because she lost a son. As with most things Ann says it is based on truth, and then said in a way that will piss off as many people as possible and get herself as much attention as possible.

Re: The Best Thing I Like About Ann Coulter Is.......
 

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......she takes the liberal tactics of people like Michael Moore, Barbara Steisand, and Alex Baldwin and dishes it back on the liberals with a conservative slant.

Watching the liberals cry foul reminds me of the phrase that people in glass houses should not throw stones. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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I just can't understand how the same people who don't just think but KNOW that Fox News is biased, that Ann Coulter is offensive and that O'Reilly is the devil also think that the only way someone could think the New York Times is lefist, that Colbert's speech was offensive and inappropriate and that Bill Maher is a moron is if they are complete idiots.
It seems to me that to not be able to recognize that the same types of players exist on both sides is ignorance and arrogance of the worst kind.

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So now Colbert's speech is as inappropriate as Coulter's words, on say, the witch widows of 9/11???

Haha, get real.

Re: Man She\'s Funny
 

I see something horribly wrong with it. I don't care for the politics and tactics Cindy Sheehan has used but I would never say she's "enjoying" the death of her son. Maybe these women or Cindy Sheehan cry themselves to sleep every night. The fact that they've become politically active doesn't mean they're enjoying the death of their loved ones. To say so is the height of crass insensitivity.

Do you think Coulter would have made the same remark about the women if they were Bush supporters? Of course not. It's not the fact that they're using their media access as relatives of 9/11 victims. It's the fact that she doesn't like their politics.

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What does saying something ugly or untrue about Bush have to do with enjoying the death of a loved one?

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We're not talking about giving them a free pass. We're talking about somebody saying a person who has lost a loved one is enjoying it. Because they've become politically active on what Coulter sees as the wrong side of the political spectrum does not give Coulter a free pass to say they're enjoying the fact that their husbands were incinerated on 9/11.

Criticize their politics is you disagree with them. Show where their facts are wrong, if they are. Call them stupid. [Just not on this forum [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img].] But what evidence does she have and what right does she have to say that they're enjoying the deaths of their husbands?

Re: The Best Thing I Like About Ann Coulter Is.......
 

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......she takes the liberal tactics of people like Michael Moore, Barbara Steisand, and Alex Baldwin and dishes it back on the liberals with a conservative slant.

Watching the liberals cry foul reminds me of the phrase that people in glass houses should not throw stones. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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No she doesn't. Those you mentioned are just wannabe political experts who spew talking points. Coulter does everythign she can to insult, inflame, and demonize the 'other', liberal or otherwise. Conservatives love to equate her to Fraken and Surandon and Moore, and while she is similarly useless, she's far more acidic.

Re: Man She\'s Funny
 

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Michael Moore embraces populist conspiracies in order to allow himself empathy for the unwashed masses he feels superior to.

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Don't forget the truckloads of money he has to forklift into his NY penthouse.

Re: Man She\'s Funny
 

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"I've never seen people enjoying their husbands' deaths so much."

This is what she said about four 9/11 widows who vote Democratic.

How comical.

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I don't see anything wrong with a statement like that under certain circumstances. The fact is that the left props up people like Cindy Sheenan so that you can't criticize her without being demonized because she lost a son. As with most things Ann says it is based on truth, and then said in a way that will piss off as many people as possible and get herself as much attention as possible.

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You honestly think that Sheehan is glad her son is dead? Or any other person who's lost a loved one?

Re: Ann Coulter Poll
 

As a pundit and intellectual; she's the ring-leader for the freakish, sensationalist, church-of-what's-happening-now. She does have potential jack-off material though... if you're a 15-year-old fox news conservative.

Re: Man She\'s Funny
 

Andy, you're being much too reasonable. Which is why no one responds when you make this point.

And you 100% right about the politics... ie, there are pro-war mothers who speak FOR the war and Bush... she would never accuse them of enjoying the deaths of their kids. And frankly, I don't know of anyone on the left who would make such an accusation. (Yet, the Ann supporters pretend that they're all alike.)

Re: Man She\'s Funny
 

What does saying something ugly or untrue about Bush have to do with enjoying the death of a loved one?
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In politics, hateful liars deserve no special treatment even if their husbands were killed by moslem maniacs.
Ann Coulter is delivering some 'political karma' to these four witches and I an enjoying the show.

The Most Influential Satirists Since Jonathon Swift
 

Ann is a satirist and a very good one.
Unlike Michael Moore or Al Franken she does not lie. She takes strong opinions and truths and smacks liberals right between the eyes. It is a refreshing to see that some conservatives are willing to fight-fire-with-fire. Ann Coulter has more political courage than anyone I know of in American politics...

In his silly book, Al Franken tried to 'prove' Ann was a liar. His so-called proof was an incoherant mesh of out-of-context quotes. Seriously, I have seen 2-years olds make a more compelling case..... Ann's book will sell millions of copies and deservedly so.

Re: The Most Influential Satirists Since Jonathon Swift
 

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Ann is a satirist and a very good one.
Unlike Michael Moore or Al Franken she does not lie.

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LOL Now who's the satirist?

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DO you think Coulter would have made the same remark abou the women if they were Bush supporters

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That's the fallacy here, Andy. Two of the four "Jersey Girls" and their husbands voted FOR Bush in 2000. These women (and Cindy Sheehan for that matter) aren't protesting based on PARTY politics, but PEACE politics. In particular the 9/11 Families want to know what happened, and how the government is going to keep it from happening again.

I guarantee you every one of those women, and the mothers of the 2500 dead US soldiers, would give everything they have to have their children back.

Not So......Ann Tells It How It Is
 

DO you think Coulter would have made the same remark abou the women if they were Bush supporters? Of course not.
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The political contribution of Bush supporting 911 widows has been 'they (Jersey Girls) do not speak for me' and then they have returned to their normal lives. The Dems and the drive-by media keep parading this people over-and-over again. The other 911 widows have shown more class and have not tried to exploit their husbands deaths.


It's not the fact that they're using their media access as relatives of 9/11 victims. It's the fact that she doesn't like their politics.
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I disagree. The Dems are orchestrating a deliberate poltical tactic called "human political sheilds".

*John Murtha (you can't attack him because he is a ex-marine)
*Cindy Sheehan (you can't attack her because her son died)
*Jersey Girls (you can't attack them because they're 911 widows)
*Max Cleland (you can't attack him because his lost 4 limbs in Vietnam on his way to a BBQ)
*Michael Berg (you can't attack him because his son was beheaded in Iraq)
*There are probably others I have not thought of.

This strategy reminds me of a Three Stooges Episode where Curly is about to get his ass kicked so he puts on some glasses and says, "You can't hit a man wearing glasses!".

People are getting tired of these tactics and Ann Coulter has exposed these shameless tactics with BRUTAL honesty. And I love her for it.

The Dems need to:
1. Stop these shallow tactics.
2. Be honest with the American people on their views.
3. Try to persuade the American people using sound arguments and logic.
4. Use democratic leaders like Howard Dean to convey their message.

Re: The Most Influential Satirists Since Jonathon Swift
 

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Ann is a satirist and a very good one.
Unlike Michael Moore or Al Franken she does not lie.

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LOL Now who's the satirist?

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This coming from someone who can't spell their home state.

FN is right on. She is the flip side of Al Franken's satire, except she's actually funny....and doesnt lie like Franken.

Re: Man She\'s Funny
 

The only hateful liar I've seen in the brouhaha is Ms. Coulter. But maybe I'm ill-informed. I read the press statement the four women issued the other day. I posted it (somewhere in one of the other threads). I don't see anything hateful in it, nor any lies.

I think I'm making myself clear, but perhaps I'm not. I'll try one more time.

I agree 100% that political discussion should be open and free. The women deserve no special treatment in terms of reaction to their political activities or statements. I have absolutely no problem whatsoever with Ms. Coulter tearing their political arguments to shreds.

The only issue I take is with Ms. Coulter saying the women are enjoying the deaths of their loved ones. That's simply an ugly thing to say. It's obviously predicated on the fact that the women have become politically active and Ms. Coulter doesn't like their politics. She's free to not like their politics. But saying they're enjoying their husbands' deaths is a mean-spirited comment.

I don't see how anyone can say it's not. I'm listening to those who have taken issue with my comments on this and I still haven't heard why it's not. I'm still listening and willing to do so.

Re: Not So......Ann Tells It How It Is
 

The Dems don't "need" to do anything. They're free to politick as they see fit. It's evident they haven't been doing a good job of it, but that's their right.

With all due respect, you're not addressing the point I'm making. I have no problem with Coulter pointing out, if she thinks it's true, that the Dems have been trying to fight unfairly by using people who the Dems think might get a free pass because of who they are. Point it out. I
heard Hannity say the same thing the other day.

My objection to Ms. Coulter consists entirely of her statement that the four women are enjoying the deaths of their husbands. It's just an ugly thing to say. She's an ugly, mean-spirited clown. Just as the Dems would, if they were wise, distance themselves from the like of Michael Moore, the Reps would be wise to disavow Coulter's rantings.

On Laura Ingraham's show this morning (see, I listen to Hannity and Ingraham) she said a poll on her website came out 86% in favor of what Coulter said. If that means that 86% of the respondents believe that the women are enjoying their husbands' deaths, it's a sad, sad commentary on America. If that's the kind of people we are, we ought to pull out of Iraq immediately because we're morally evil and shouldn't be spreading that evil to other places.

Re: Not So......Ann Tells It How It Is
 

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*John Murtha (you can't attack him because he is a ex-marine)
*Cindy Sheehan (you can't attack her because her son died)
*Jersey Girls (you can't attack them because they're 911 widows)
*Max Cleland (you can't attack him because his lost 4 limbs in Vietnam on his way to a BBQ)
*Michael Berg (you can't attack him because his son was beheaded in Iraq)
*There are probably others I have not thought of.



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Yet criticizing the war or any of President [censored]'s policies is tantamount to treason and gives comfort to our enemies.

Re: Not So......Ann Tells It How It Is
 

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I disagree. The Dems are orchestrating a deliberate poltical tactic called "human political sheilds".

*John Murtha (you can't attack him because he is a ex-marine)
*Cindy Sheehan (you can't attack her because her son died)
*Jersey Girls (you can't attack them because they're 911 widows)
*Max Cleland (you can't attack him because his lost 4 limbs in Vietnam on his way to a BBQ)
*Michael Berg (you can't attack him because his son was beheaded in Iraq)
*There are probably others I have not thought of.

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Whatever happened to attacking what they have to say instead of attacking the people or their character? Or is that long gone? Did it ever exist?

Re: The Most Influential Satirists Since Jonathon Swift
 

"she does not lie."

She's a pathological liar. Here are two examples from her book Slander:

“New York Times columnist Frank Rich demanded that [Attorney General] Ashcroft stop monkeying around with Muslim terrorists and concentrate on anti-abortion extremists.”

Reality: In the column Coulter cited, there is absolutely no evidence that Rich even remotely suggested that Ashcroft curtail efforts against Islamic terrorists. There exists not one post-9/11 Times column by Rich in which Rich made any such demands of Ashcroft.

“Yale law professor Bruce Ackerman recommended dropping the war against global terrorism (‘declare war at the first at the first decent opportunity’!) and instead concentrate on ‘home-grown extremists.’”

Reality: In the column Coulter cited, Ackerman does not advocate concentrating on domestic terrorists (as opposed to foreign-born terrorists, who are the focus of the column). In fact, Ackerman only mentions “home-grown extremists” in passing (“And I do not deny that other attacks may well occur — perhaps committed by home-grown extremists.”)

But I don't mind her being a liar. The information she talks about or writes about can be checked out and the truth or falsity of what she says verified. It's her cursory talk about death and treason and rape and people enjoying death that I find objectionable. They're remarkably similar in tone and emphasis to those of the leader of Iran, their virtual mirror image. Here are a few Coulter statements:

"Tthe Democratic Party, as an entity, has become functionally treasonable."

"Bill Clinton was a very good rapist."

"I'm getting a little fed up with hearing about, oh, civilian casualties. I think we ought to nuke North Korea right now just to give the rest of the world a warning."

On Iran: "I just think it would be fun to nuke them and have it be a warning to the rest of the world."

"Liberals hate America, . . . they hate all religions except Islam (post 9/11). Even Islamic terrorists don’t hate America like liberals do.”

Re: Not So......Ann Tells It How It Is
 

"4. Use democratic leaders like Howard Dean to convey their message. "

This only happens in my dreams. Mmmmmm, Howard Dean out in front.

"Cindy Sheehan (you can't attack her because her son died)
*Jersey Girls (you can't attack them because they're 911 widows)
*Michael Berg (you can't attack him because his son was beheaded in Iraq)"

So what is the credential that ties these media 'stars' together? The very thinnest of gruel, someone close to them died. We'd do as well soliciting the learned opinion of the 4th person to get off the next bus.

This is part of Coulter's (and my) objection.

Re: Not So......Ann Tells It How It Is
 

My objection to Ms. Coulter consists entirely of her statement that the four women are enjoying the deaths of their husbands. It's just an ugly thing to say.
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It is an OPINION that these four women are enjoying their husbands deaths. An opinion I agree with. TECHNICALLY it is not their husbands deaths they enjoyed but the after-effects of their husbands deaths.
*They enjoy the attention they are getting from the media.
*They enjoy the attention they are getting from the Democrat leadership.
*They enjoy their new status as 911 millionaires.
*They enjoy saying hateful things about George Bush.

Any goodwill and sympathy that they had from people like myself has evaporated.
Ann Coulter is a satirists. She could have said these women are enjoying the BENEFITS of their husbands deaths. Instead she said these women are enjoying the deaths of their husbands. The latter statement, makes a more powerful statement and can be argued to be truthful.