KK: Am I good?
 

Just sat down. No reads.

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Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $0.50/$1
10 players
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Pre-flop: (10 players) Hero is MP1 with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+2 raises</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero 3-bets</font>, MP2 folds, MP3 calls, 4 folds, UTG+2 calls.

Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (10.5SB, 3 players)
UTG+2 checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, MP3 folds, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+2 raises</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero 3-bets</font>, UTG+2 calls.

Turn: Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (8.25BB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">UTG+2 bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (10.25BB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">UTG+2 bets</font>, Hero calls.

Results:
Final pot: 12.25BB

Re: KK: Am I good?
 

This is perfect.

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This is perfect.

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Re: KK: Am I good?
 

did you laugh when he turned up AJ?

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or tears on AK?

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or tears on AK?

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Re: KK: Am I good?
 

ALternate play: raise the turn, and fold to a reraise,

i think it's likely that you'll get a free showdown if you raised the turn, i don't know how much this would help in the short run, but it lets us get information, but it costs the same as calling, i relaly can't explain why i would, but i would raise the turn here, sorry, it's late

Re: KK: Am I good?
 

your preflop 3bet says, im AA KK QQ, also your flop 3bt says I'm good !

Yet villian leads Turn ?! I'm thinking TT JJ :&lt;

Gotta call down tho, might as well be a TAZ on AJ

Re: KK: Am I good?
 

I cant think thats at all a good idea ?

If he's behind he'll fold to the raise, If he has the straight or set, he'll reraise.

If we call Turn &amp; River we have at least a small chance to get paid off by a AJ or AT.

Re: KK: Am I good?
 

im saying AKc gotta call anyway

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ALternate play: raise the turn, and fold to a reraise,

i think it's likely that you'll get a free showdown if you raised the turn, i don't know how much this would help in the short run, but it lets us get information, but it costs the same as calling, i relaly can't explain why i would, but i would raise the turn here, sorry, it's late

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he's not folding the turn.. and might just 3-bet you making you give up your OESD.

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ALternate play: raise the turn, and fold to a reraise,

i think it's likely that you'll get a free showdown if you raised the turn, i don't know how much this would help in the short run, but it lets us get information, but it costs the same as calling, i relaly can't explain why i would, but i would raise the turn here, sorry, it's late

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he's not folding the turn.. and might just 3-bet you making you give up your OESD.

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Why should we be folding to a 3-bet? 14:1 when the action comes back to us is plenty to spike 8ish outs, no?

Re: KK: Am I good?
 

U are good. Can't see a better line.

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or tears on AK?

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Not likely. There is only one hand where villian has this holding given the action. A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] If we play this hand like villian has this hand everytime we lose a large amount of equity by folding. Villian could have AJ, AT, AK, AQ, KQ, KJs, JJ, TT, QQ, AA. I eliminate TT, JJ, QQ, KK, and AA given the preflop action. I would put villian on AT, AJ, A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] and KQ given the flop action. Include K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]J [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] because we haven't seen his play before (I would three bet KJs if I was the villian)

So AT(12) + AJ (12) + A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img](1) + A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img](1) + KQ(8) + KJs (1) = 35 combinations. On the turn there are 8.5 BB when you have the action. You are ahead of AT, AJ, A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], KQ, and KJs. So you are only behind to 1 combination. If he plays AK the same he plays A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] in this sitution, you are still ahead of all but 6. Clear call in my mind. Borderline raise with the intent of calling a 3 bet, call the river. Of course if he river brings an ace, or a club, then our play needs to be reevalutated.

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Of course if he river brings an ace, or a club, then our play needs to be reevalutated.

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An ace (except the ace of clubs) gives hero the nuts. AQ of clubs seems a likely hand, but getting three bet on the turn, even with the OESD, would be unpleasant. The hand looks perfect as played.

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ALternate play: raise the turn, and fold to a reraise,

i think it's likely that you'll get a free showdown if you raised the turn, i don't know how much this would help in the short run, but it lets us get information, but it costs the same as calling, i relaly can't explain why i would, but i would raise the turn here, sorry, it's late

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he's not folding the turn.. and might just 3-bet you making you give up your OESD.

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Why should we be folding to a 3-bet? 14:1 when the action comes back to us is plenty to spike 8ish outs, no?

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bolded what i was responding to.

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Of course if he river brings an ace, or a club, then our play needs to be reevaluated.

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An ace (except the ace of clubs) gives hero the nuts. AQ of clubs seems a likely hand, but getting three bet on the turn, even with the OESD, would be unpleasant. The hand looks perfect as played.

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Yeah, wasn't even paying attention to the fact hero had OESD himself. Good call, my bad.