109s flopped overpair vs the whole damn table.
 

It's been awhile since I've posted a hand, so here's a super boring one.

Typical 109s table so far. CO+1 sucks really bad.

PartyPoker $109 Speed Tournament, Big Blind is t40 (10 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

UTG (t2000)
UTG+1 (t2345)
MP1 (t2000)
MP2 (t1960)
MP3 (t931)
CO+1 (t1668)
CO (t1940)
Button (t3196)
Hero (t1960)
BB (t2000)

Preflop: Hero is in SB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG calls t40, UTG+1 calls t40, <font color="gray">MP1 folds</font>, <font color="gray">MP2 folds</font>, <font color="gray">MP3 folds</font>, CO+1 calls t40, CO calls t40, <font color="gray">Button folds</font>, Hero calls t20, BB checks

Flop: (t240) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, <font color="red">UTG bets t100</font>, <font color="gray">UTG+1 folds</font>, CO+1 calls t100, <font color="gray">CO folds</font>, Hero calls t100, <font color="gray">BB folds</font>

Turn: (t540) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks, CO+1 checks

River: (t540) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks, CO+1 checks

Re: 109s flopped overpair vs the whole damn table.
 

Seems pretty standard to me.

Re: 109s flopped overpair vs the whole damn table.
 

Nice pot for only 5 clicks.

Re: 109s flopped overpair vs the whole damn table.
 

I come out betting the pot with the idea that if someone plays back at me I am pretty much gone (unless I have a good read on the opponent). The only thing you are really worried about here is UTG having a big pocket pair or someone flopping a set. A straight or two pair is very unlikely and you do not want to give someone with two spades odds to draw to his/her flush. By checking and calling you really do not know where you are at all. I would even prefer a check raise on the flop over the check call. After the flop I am checking unless I think my opponent is on a flush draw, in which case I am going to bet the turn, but I am checking the river 100% of the time if I get a call on the turn after not giving my opponents odds to call with a flush draw.

Re: 109s flopped overpair vs the whole damn table.
 

I'd probably check/fold. Just about every turn card sucks(assuming you are ahead right now) and being in the SB makes it even a crappier spot.

Re: 109s flopped overpair vs the whole damn table.
 

Looks fine to me. I often check fold in such spots but for only 100 I would call.

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Looks fine to me. I often check fold in such spots but for only 100 I would call.

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Re: 109s flopped overpair vs the whole damn table.
 

I like the line as well. The board is super connected so leading out could possibly put you in a situation of building a big pot with a billion scary turns. For t100 I call all day and re-evaluate on the turn

Re: 109s flopped overpair vs the whole damn table.
 

i would just give up on the flop. just about any possible turn is bad for you.

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i would just give up on the flop. just about any possible turn is bad for you.

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Yeah but given the nature of the board and the fact that some of these scary turns may also be bad for your opponent, it will get checked through more often than most boards. However I would fold to something like a 150-200 chip bet, so its a close call to me.

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I agree with HappyNutz.
Why not come out betting something like 3/4 of pot - pot and take it down very high % of the time?
Checkraising seems nice too after seeing UTG and CO+1 actions.

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I agree with HappyNutz.
Why not come out betting something like 3/4 of pot - pot and take it down very high % of the time?
Checkraising seems nice too after seeing UTG and CO+1 actions.

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You won't be taking it down a high % of the time, sorry! If this comment were true, youd make this bet with something like 82o.

Re: 109s flopped overpair vs the whole damn table.
 

Well yes you take this down with high % enough to bet with anything... but the times youll get called you have them most likely beat with your 88 over their draws and you can bet the turn if a blank falls. Good players are going to raise here with almost all of their better hands against you.

The pot is 280 and you bet 240-280 - which hands are going to call you?

Re: 109s flopped overpair vs the whole damn table.
 

I would check and call the t100 bet on the turn. But if it had gotten all the way back to me with only the original bettor, I might consider c-raising.

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Well yes you take this down with high % enough to bet with anything... but the times youll get called you have them most likely beat with your 88 over their draws and you can bet the turn if a blank falls. Good players are going to raise here with almost all of their better hands against you.

The pot is 280 and you bet 240-280 - which hands are going to call you?

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I don't know what games you play, but betting into 5 players from 1st position doesn't take down the pot a high % of the time at any game I've ever played in any form of poker.