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Dids 06-02-2006 11:33 AM

Chuck Klosterman\'s 23 Questions #16 Canadian Football
 
Someone builds an optical portal that allows you to see a vision of your own life in the future (it's essentialy a crystal ball that shows a randomly selected image of what your life will be like in twenty years). You can only see into this portal for thirty seconds. When you finally peer into the crystal, you see yourself in a living room, two decades older than you are today. You are watching a Canadian football game and you are extremely happy. You are wearing a CFL jersey,. Your chair is surrounded by books and magazines that promote the Canadian Football League, and ther are CFL pennants covering your walls. You are alone in the room, but you are gleefully muttering about historcal moments in Canadian football history. It becomes clear that- for some unknown reason- you have become obsessed with Canadian football. And this future is static and absolute; no matter what you do, this future will happen. The optical portal is never wrong. This destiny cannot be changed.

The next day, you are flipping through television channels and randomly come across a prseason CFL game between the Toronto Argonauts and the Sasakatchewan Roughriders. Knowing your inveitable future, do you know watch it?

RiverFenix 06-02-2006 11:34 AM

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Yes

Shajen 06-02-2006 11:35 AM

Re: Chuck Klosterman\'s 23 Questions #16 Canadian Football
 
Dids,

What if the portal is only right because you say yes to this question?

supercomputer 06-02-2006 11:36 AM

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No

CIncyHR 06-02-2006 11:37 AM

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Nope. I'll avoid my demise as long as possible.

DemonDeac 06-02-2006 11:38 AM

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absolutely not

Dids 06-02-2006 11:38 AM

Re: Chuck Klosterman\'s 23 Questions #16 Canadian Football
 
Shajen,

I had the same question.

However, let us assume a non tricky manipulative portal.

MrWookie 06-02-2006 11:39 AM

Re: Chuck Klosterman\'s 23 Questions #16 Canadian Football
 
An inerrant destiny is a ridiculous concept. I won't watch the game out of spite.

bisonbison 06-02-2006 11:40 AM

Re: Chuck Klosterman\'s 23 Questions #16 Canadian Football
 
Not unless I had money on it.

Shajen 06-02-2006 11:42 AM

Re: Chuck Klosterman\'s 23 Questions #16 Canadian Football
 
Dids,

in that case, screw that, I'll hold off as long as I can.

I'm a stubborn ass.

sleight 06-02-2006 11:44 AM

Re: Chuck Klosterman\'s 23 Questions #16 Canadian Football
 
Wait, aren't all Canadian teams named the Roughriders?

Hoya 06-02-2006 11:53 AM

Re: Chuck Klosterman\'s 23 Questions #16 Canadian Football
 
If I don't like the CFL now, why would I watch? I don't see why the fact that I'll love it in 20 years should encourage me to be bored now.

Most of these questions suck.

talentdeficit 06-02-2006 11:58 AM

Re: Chuck Klosterman\'s 23 Questions #16 Canadian Football
 
is ricky williams playing?

Tron 06-02-2006 12:00 PM

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[ QUOTE ]
is ricky williams playing?

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Perfect.

noggindoc 06-02-2006 12:02 PM

Re: Chuck Klosterman\'s 23 Questions #16 Canadian Football
 
Why not? It mentions that the dude watching CFL is happy. I mean I'd rather watch NCAA football but if I'd be just as happy with CFL why not go for it?

sigh 06-02-2006 12:07 PM

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Why not? It mentions that the dude watching CFL is happy. I mean I'd rather watch NCAA football but if I'd be just as happy with CFL why not go for it?

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It says that his walls are covered with pennants and he's mumbling about CFL history, sounds more insane than happy to me.

Dids 06-02-2006 12:42 PM

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The line between insane and happy is often blurred and sometimes non existant.

RayPowers 06-02-2006 12:43 PM

Re: Chuck Klosterman\'s 23 Questions #16 Canadian Football
 
I watch it so I can decide now if I want to kill myself or not.

Ray

GambleGamble 06-02-2006 12:45 PM

Re: Chuck Klosterman\'s 23 Questions #16 Canadian Football
 
Whose to say the reason you are infatuated with it isnt because It overtakes the NFL in populariy or something of that nature and it becomes theeee Football league to watch...Im not going to force myself to watch a mediocre league now because Im going to love it in the future...

noggindoc 06-02-2006 12:49 PM

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[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Why not? It mentions that the dude watching CFL is happy. I mean I'd rather watch NCAA football but if I'd be just as happy with CFL why not go for it?

[/ QUOTE ]

It says that his walls are covered with pennants and he's mumbling about CFL history, sounds more insane than happy to me.

[/ QUOTE ]

"are watching a Canadian football game and you are extremely happy. "

that sounds happy to me

ScottieK 06-02-2006 12:56 PM

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No, because it doesn't interest me now. If it interests me twenty years from now, I'll probably have the game on tape in the future and can watch it as many times as I want.

Besides, it's preseason. Everyone knows Canadian football doesn't get interesting until October.

ScottieK

Ungoliant 06-02-2006 01:14 PM

Re: Chuck Klosterman\'s 23 Questions #16 Canadian Football
 
No, I wouldn't watch. From what the optical portal has told me, I'm guaranteed to be alive, happy, and reasonably well-off financially in 20 years. I think there would be better things to do with my 20 years of immortality than watching Canadian football. I can do that when I've gone crazy as a loon in 20 years.

Autocratic 06-02-2006 01:23 PM

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The crystal ball can't be right if I kill myself. Which I'd immediately do.

Eurotrash 06-02-2006 01:36 PM

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http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/2...preview5el.jpg



Dids, I know I might be a bit of a hater, but can you honestly tell me you don't find the 23 Questions (both the concept and the questions themselves thus far) really gay?

it wouldn't bother me so much if he didn't market them as "questions he asks a person before he can tell if he really loves them." come on.. the guy would have no friends if that were the case. I mean, look at the nga (above).

Dids 06-02-2006 01:49 PM

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Euro,

You are totally being a hater here, and making the same mistake many people stupider than you have made. Clearly he's kidding, and the absuridty of the statement is part of the punchline to the joke.

You are smarter than this post and I am displeased with you. DISPLEASED.

bisonbison 06-02-2006 01:50 PM

Re: Chuck Klosterman\'s 23 Questions #16 Canadian Football
 
Dids, there's such a thing as a tedious joke.

Hopey 06-02-2006 01:51 PM

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Yes, but I'm Canadian so I'd be watching the game anyway.

tpir 06-02-2006 01:59 PM

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First, I would be really mad at myself for not having a Canadian Football Sports Almanac sitting on my lap that I could look through for 30 seconds.

Second, it's only a preseason game so I would probably skip it since I will have plenty of time to watch this stuff later.

Eurotrash 06-02-2006 02:02 PM

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[ QUOTE ]
Euro,

You are totally being a hater here, and making the same mistake many people stupider than you have made. Clearly he's kidding, and the absuridty of the statement is part of the punchline to the joke.

You are smarter than this post and I am displeased with you. DISPLEASED.

[/ QUOTE ]



Dids, I don't think my opinion of the questions changes even though he is "kidding." this just means he thought, "haha it'll be funny if I say that I ask people these questions to determine their worth as a human being."

that's still gay.

the questions are just annoying in the way that some of Bill Simmons's material is. it's just easier to like Simmons because he doesn't resemble a pretentious hipster fgt.

benfranklin 06-02-2006 02:03 PM

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[ QUOTE ]


The next day, you are flipping through television channels and randomly come across a prseason CFL game between the Toronto Argonauts and the Sasakatchewan Roughriders. Knowing your inveitable future, do you know watch it?

[/ QUOTE ]

No. I don't speak Canadian.

Dids 06-02-2006 02:07 PM

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Euro,

As always you're way the hell too concerned with image and inventing motivations for people. The point behind these questions is more that I think each question lends itself to a pretty interesting debate. I would think it's pretty apparently that's the point of the exercise, that these are just a framework designed to spark a conversation, and I wish people would focus more on the questions and spend less time bitching about the other stuff.

Eurotrash 06-02-2006 02:11 PM

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Euro,

As always you're way the hell too concerned with image and inventing motivations for people.

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Dids, imo you fail to realize that the motivations that i assign to people's actions are usually correct [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

GeniusToad 06-02-2006 02:16 PM

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Nope.

jokerthief 06-02-2006 02:19 PM

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http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/2...preview5el.jpg


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That's a man? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] He looks like Janet Reno.

GeniusToad 06-02-2006 02:19 PM

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[ QUOTE ]
Euro,

As always you're way the hell too concerned with image and inventing motivations for people. The point behind these questions is more that I think each question lends itself to a pretty interesting debate. I would think it's pretty apparently that's the point of the exercise, that these are just a framework designed to spark a conversation, and I wish people would focus more on the questions and spend less time bitching about the other stuff.

[/ QUOTE ]

and that they do - thanks for posting them cause i've never even heard of the guy. some are just too easy/non-controversial imho. still fun tho - keep 'em comin.

bisonbison 06-02-2006 02:21 PM

Re: Chuck Klosterman\'s 23 Questions #16 Canadian Football
 
That's a man? He looks like Janet Reno.

He looks like a Cory.

benfranklin 06-02-2006 02:22 PM

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these are just a framework designed to spark a conversation, and I wish people would focus more on the questions and spend less time bitching about the other stuff.

[/ QUOTE ]

Formal debates have moderators, conversations do not. You can't honestly throw an idea out for conversation, and then bitch about the conversation you get. If you want the responses limited or structured, restructure the questions as T/F or multiple choice.

This is OOT, lest we forget. This is the last place in the world anyone should expect, let alone require, that a conversation stay on topic.

Villainaire 06-02-2006 02:23 PM

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Wait, aren't all Canadian teams named the Roughriders?

[/ QUOTE ]

If not, they all might as well be.

GeniusToad 06-02-2006 02:27 PM

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That's a man? He looks like Janet Reno.

He looks like a Cory.

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i've been scanning google images and i can't find a good resemblance pic. feldman with those glasses would be ideal.

edit: where our ms painters at?

Shajen 06-02-2006 02:29 PM

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http://img322.imageshack.us/img322/7742/feldman7ji.jpg


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