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Gomez 05-29-2006 05:05 PM

2005 U.S. Poker Championship
 
2005 U.S. Poker Championship Part 1 and 2 (of 12) on tonight on ESPN at 5 PM PDT.

Vasquez 05-29-2006 08:15 PM

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2005 USPC TV Schedule

Dynasty 05-29-2006 08:24 PM

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Has this been shown before?

ClassicBob 05-29-2006 08:24 PM

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No

Sykes 05-29-2006 08:25 PM

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Does Brian Haveson know how to play poker? How do you lose 400BB with one pair (KK vs AA)?

billyjex 05-29-2006 08:28 PM

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Does Brian Haveson know how to play poker? How do you lose 400BB with one pair (KK vs AA)?

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Tourney donks don't know deep stacks.

chicken10der 05-29-2006 08:33 PM

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The first ten minutes of this show has been more entertaining than most of the 2-hour WPT episodes this season.

Nez477 05-29-2006 08:34 PM

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This coverage is actually kind of refreshing. Deep action, it's not raise/all-in/call every hand.

Still could fit in more poker instead of touring a random restaurant but compared to other options on TV lately, it ain't too bad.

Lots of passive AK play thus far IMO...

Brad

billyjex 05-29-2006 08:36 PM

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Yeah, this should be some decent television. 12 episdoes of a ~245 person tournament will have plenty of play (compared to the main event, which was the same # of episodes.)

Nez477 05-29-2006 08:39 PM

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Yeah, this should be some decent television. 12 episdoes of a ~245 person tournament will have plenty of play (compared to the main event, which was the same # of episodes.)

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Good point.

Yaboosh 05-29-2006 08:43 PM

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The first guy that got knocked out was the best.

"I actually prefer playing against good players, they are more predictable."

Kevmath 05-29-2006 08:44 PM

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The first guy that got knocked out was the best.

"I actually prefer playing against good players, they are more predictable."

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Yep, playing with the "predictable" Phil Ivey and Hoyt Corkins is always +EV.

PITTM 05-29-2006 08:45 PM

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i really like the coverage, but has no one else noticed how the framerate jumps to like 1.3x as people fold and they go around the table? then they cut back to 1x for normal. the sped up framerate looks very strange.

rj

Smoothcall 05-29-2006 08:46 PM

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They are starting the coverage on the first day so you dont ee all in becasue there stacks are very deep in relaiton to blinds. Probably 10k chips and blinds aorund 25-50 or sumthing.

TimTimSalabim 05-29-2006 08:52 PM

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Typical lame ESPN coverage. I guess bet sizes are only important enough to mention every once in awhile.

mrTEA 05-29-2006 09:00 PM

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i don't think those trip Aces could have been played worse

Sykes 05-29-2006 09:18 PM

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Is Funston a joke? This guy makes watching almost unwatchable.

Kevmath 05-29-2006 09:20 PM

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From what I recall, it gets even better with Funston near the bubble. Seems Haveson and Nguyen decided to skip the lessons regarding hand rankings and how to bet.

chicken10der 05-29-2006 09:22 PM

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How long before Men gets his student Funston to chip dump to him?

I'm about 20 minutes behind (watching on TiVo), and this K3 hand is hilarious.

BigSoonerFan 05-29-2006 09:22 PM

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Is Funston a joke? This guy makes watching almost unwatchable.

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Pathetically hilarious. They'll line up to be Men's student now!

"I raise one orange. Can I do that?"

PITTM 05-29-2006 09:26 PM

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kenna james is playing worse. and hes supposed to be a pro, right?

rj

BigSoonerFan 05-29-2006 09:26 PM

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From what I recall, it gets even better with Funston near the bubble. Seems Haveson and Nguyen decided to skip the lessons regarding hand rankings and how to bet.

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I don't think Men waited that long. How does he bet 8k into that river when his two pair got counterfeited? Did he really think Funston would lay it down?

mrTEA 05-29-2006 09:29 PM

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the hands w/ quads are hilarious

Sykes 05-29-2006 09:29 PM

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kenna james is playing worse. and hes supposed to be a pro, right?

rj

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yeah, but what about matasouw?

"He's got a deuce you donkey" ~Kenna James, best quote ever.

VincentVega 05-29-2006 09:31 PM

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"I don't think Men waited that long. How does he bet 8k into that river when his two pair got counterfeited? Did he really think Funston would lay it down? "

Funston is an absolute fool. He figured if he had any one pair he would call..he didnt have to have an overpair, he could have been in there with so many hands to pay men off.

JCool 05-29-2006 09:32 PM

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the hands w/ quads are hilarious

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LMAO. Great TV

PITTM 05-29-2006 09:33 PM

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tpir and i discussed this hand. we decided that nguyen must have been almost sure that the dude had QJ-AJ, TT.

rj

surfinillini 05-29-2006 09:43 PM

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excellent coverage ! all around

mrTEA 05-29-2006 09:44 PM

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this funston guy is making me cry

aheravi 05-29-2006 09:52 PM

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this funston guy is making me cry

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I can see this turning into a catch-phrase denoting idiot-like success, like that episode of the "Simpson's" when they talk about "Pulling a Homer."

"Man, I Funston'd a runner-runner straight."

Madball 05-29-2006 10:01 PM

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Can someone explain Cernuto calling a $1200 bet (with a total of about 3700 in the pot after Matusow's bet) with 77 on a KKQ flop?

Yaboosh 05-29-2006 10:05 PM

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Perhaps he was floating and planned on bluffing a K later in the hand?

Madball 05-29-2006 10:09 PM

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It seems fairly likely, considering many players won't lead out if they have that K and will if they have the Q (as Matusow did)... Making a K-bluff believable.

Or maybe he knew a 7 was coming on the turn [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

FGators 05-29-2006 10:12 PM

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I think thats what Cernuto was planning. Matusows calling down with a boat was not a terrible play. Its not like he decided to raise all in on the river or something. Much better than James lucksacking a straight.

And Funstons a joke...

Dids 05-29-2006 10:57 PM

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I thought that was some of the most fun poker coverage I've watched in a while. The Kenna Jams "HE'S GOT 2 YOU IDIOT" (I likely have this wrong) line was fantastic.

There was a lot of people having FUN playing poker, which was neat to see.

That Funston guy reminded me of every drunk local who had to be taught how to bet on each hand I've ever played with.

towery 05-29-2006 11:27 PM

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I loved the coverage. I'll be watching all of these I think.

Yaboosh 05-29-2006 11:31 PM

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All I can say is that it is a good thing USPC coverage is moving to Tuesdays so I can easily watch both this and HSP.

mrTEA 05-29-2006 11:47 PM

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when's hsp going back on the air?

chicken10der 05-29-2006 11:55 PM

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HSP is back next Monday

Self Made 05-30-2006 06:44 AM

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Some strengths, e.g. people have pointed out that it's the early stages of a real tournament, so not an all-in fest. But also the usual ESPN weaknesses:
- The Chad
- Flitting (what I call ESPN's tendency to flit about the room covering various hands, even without hole card cams). Radical idea: try covering one table well instead of several badly.
- Not much focus on poker. It's short-attention-span theatre, by people not interested in poker, for people not interested in poker. E.g. they don't show folded hole cards. They may not even stop talking long enough to mention whether a player called or raised, or the amount. And what are the blinds? Radical idea: talk about the poker that's taking place, or show the info on the screen.


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