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phrosty 05-28-2006 11:02 PM

pokerdome
 
seems like a great concept for the spectators that are there but so far the tv production has been crap-is anyone watchin this?

Burdzthewurd 05-28-2006 11:18 PM

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I like the idea of the speed decisions, but starting people with 25xbb is pretty ridiculous. I wonder if the blind levels are 15 minutes (including commercials) as well like they were when I was on the World Poker Challenge back in January. At least you get a $7k package just for getting on the show, as opposed to just a flight to L.A. and two nights hotel for the UB WPC

Kevmath 05-28-2006 11:23 PM

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The shows are being taped, and I think the levels are at 20 minutes each. The show started here at 10pm on FSN NY, and 30 minutes into the show, they were still at level 1 (1k/2k).

phrosty 05-28-2006 11:25 PM

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guess i wasn't payin attention to the structure that closely. they started with 50,000 in chips, was it 1000-2000 to start? i missed the first 15 minutes or so. in terms of play tho, these guys look like my dream table on the 33's. brian wilson is a local celeb(im from same home town) and he played like a complete donk.

olivert 05-28-2006 11:46 PM

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I like the idea of the speed decisions, but starting people with 25xbb is pretty ridiculous. I wonder if the blind levels are 15 minutes (including commercials) as well like they were when I was on the World Poker Challenge back in January. At least you get a $7k package just for getting on the show, as opposed to just a flight to L.A. and two nights hotel for the UB WPC

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The same promoter behind UB Hollywood Park, Rick Kulis of Hollybrook Regency Inc., is behind PokerDome.

The only differences between PokerDome and UB Hollywood Park:

1. Pot limit pre-flop until heads-up play begins

2. 15-second decision clock with one 30-second time out per player prior to heads-up and one additiona 30-second time out when heads-up begins

3. Slightly faster structure as UB Hollywood Park, but with chip counts multplied by 5. 50000 chips to start with 1000-2000 in level 1 instead of 10000 chips to start with 100-200 in level 1. Basically, PokerDome has the same structure as UB Hollywood Park, but with the first UB Hollywood Park level skipped.

4. At least one of the 6 players for each episode was/is/will be "invited" based on industry connections.

For the premier episode, ALL 6 players were invited based on industry connections. None of the 6 were internet qualifiers.

Qualifiers from MansionPoker.com do not take part until the 2nd episode.

The 5 MansionPoker.com qualifers for June 3 are:

mpendle
No Name
Wackadoo
Zimbra
zombi2

The 5 MansionPoker.com qualifiers for June 10 are:

Delliks
Loswages2
mctrap
My Maria
SaloonHal

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The July 12 special edition of PokerDome will be LIVE on FSN's Eastern Time Zone affiliates (New England, New York, Pittsburgh, Florida, South, Ohio) at 6-10pm Eastern Time (replacing the $10 million buy-in event from Australia which was cancelled.) That show will allegedly have a $1 million prize pool.

Ramon Scott 05-28-2006 11:57 PM

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Waiting for the hot or not thread

carpe2k 05-29-2006 12:51 AM

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I thought the pokerdome was at the Plaza?
Lisa Dergan is easy on the eyes.
So far mildly entertaining. [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

Kevmath 05-29-2006 12:56 AM

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It's going to be at the Neonopolis (or whatever they're calling that thing in Downtown Vegas), however the first few weeks are being held at the Tropicana.

Ramon Scott 05-29-2006 01:48 AM

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From Dave Colclough's Wikipedia profile...


He (Colclough) spent much of 2005 travelling with and training Brian "Rookie" Wilson, who went on to win a bracelet at the 2005 World Series of Poker. Wilson continually credits Colclough for his achievements.

MCS 05-29-2006 03:59 AM

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I didn't like it.

Archimedes 05-29-2006 04:48 AM

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Hey guys, this is Paul Dreyer (Archimedean) from the show. I'll write more about the show later, but just as a clarification, I got my seat on the show because they did a random draw of folks who had put in contact info to be contacted when MansionPoker went online. It was a very surprising call last Monday, to say the least. Trust me, I am probably the least connected person to the industry that you can find. The rest of the table was a pretty incestuous bunch, though.

The first three rounds were 20 minutes, with the BB going up by 2k each round. Later rounds were going to be 15 minutes at Matt's discretion. I talked to Matt about the short chipstacks and suggested they should make them larger for future episodes. Based on how little gameplay there was on this episode, we'll see what happens.

There was probably at most 50 minutes of actual gameplay. They edited out a couple of hands (including a bluff of mine that actually worked, darn it!).

More later. Being Vegas and all, I got a total of eight hours of sleep, and it caught up to me about halfway into watching the show tonight.

Zzzzz,
Paul

P.S. MCS, who are you?

olivert 05-29-2006 07:11 AM

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One other thing:

The copyright notice in the credits of PokerDome indicate that the entire show is a time buy, with MansionPoker.net owning the rights to the show and paying a substantial fee to put the show on FSN:

"Copyright 2006 MansionPoker.net"

FSN has switched to a time-buy model for poker shows that air after 11pm local time on Saturday and Sunday nights.

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FSN poker shows for which FSN has actually paid a rights fee (Monte Carlo Millions, Poker SuperStars II and III) usually has the following in the credits:

"Copyright 2006 National Sports Programming"

National Sports Programming is the NewsCorp-owned corporate entity that distributes national backdrop programming to the FSN owned/operated and affiliated regional sports networks.

olivert 05-29-2006 07:27 AM

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Quote:

seems like a great concept for the spectators that are there but so far the tv production has been crap-is anyone watchin this?
The spectators were actually sitting in a theater, watching the action displayed on a video wall, while the tournament took place inside a TV studio in another part of the building.

When the PokerDome in downtown Las Vegas opens in July, the spectators will actually be seated just outside a glass-enclosed TV studio where the action will take place. The one-way mirrored glass will allow spectators to watch the tournament, but the players will not be able to see the audience.

Rottersod 05-29-2006 12:55 PM

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Quote:

When the PokerDome in downtown Las Vegas opens in July, the spectators will actually be seated just outside a glass-enclosed TV studio where the action will take place. The one-way mirrored glass will allow spectators to watch the tournament, but the players will not be able to see the audience.
Why? Will the audience be able to see the players hole cards?

Archimedes 05-29-2006 01:28 PM

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Quote:

The spectators were actually sitting in a theater, watching the action displayed on a video wall, while the tournament took place inside a TV studio in another part of the building.
Actually, the audience and players were just separated by one of those separating walls you see in convention halls and a lot of draping. We couldn't see or hear the audience (except when Brian caught his flush and when the nine hit to knock me out). It is clear the Tropicana is a stopgap situation, and they still have some things to fix.

I felt bad for the audience having to sit through the live-to-tape bit (although they did cut a few hands from the broadcast), since there were tons of pauses/delays. Many of them had left by the time I was out.

The audio turned out much worse than I thought it would, and the commentators talked over most of our conversations, anyways, but don't worry. Except for me, the players weren't saying much, so you didn't miss anything.

Archimedes 05-29-2006 02:46 PM

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Quote:

Why? Will the audience be able to see the players hole cards?
This was actually one of the more interesting things from the show from the audience standpoint. The deck (which, if you ever see a side shot of it, is about 50% taller than a usual deck) is made up of cards that have RFID chips in them. There are sensors at each seat that read the cards, so the audience immediately knows who has what. For security, they tried to clear the lobby when we ran to the bathroom during a break, but in the end, it was more of an on your honor thing.

The decks were ABSURDLY expensive, and not 100% error-proof. You might have noticed during the broadcast that there was a hand where one of Jonathan's cards did not show up on the monitors.

They have a few bugs to still work out, as some of you have already noted.

CaryDarling 05-29-2006 03:04 PM

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Show sucked, I tivo'd it and about 20 minutes into it deleted it.

I don't want to spend 2 hours watching unknown players play badly unless it's in a cash game on the strip and I have them all covered.

Smoothcall 05-29-2006 05:34 PM

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I saw last end part. Seems like some serious poker being played. The women who won had the nut flush and thought she had to split the pot becasue another heart came on river putting 4 hearts on board, she had A4 heart lol.

MCS 05-30-2006 10:52 PM

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P.S. MCS, who are you?

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