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Carpal/Tunnel Post: Control
All men and women are born, live suffer and die; what distinguishes us one from another is our dreams, whether they be dreams about worldly or unworldly things, and what we do to make them come about... We do not choose to be born. We do not choose our parents. We do not choose our historical epoch, the country of our birth, or the immediate circumstances of our upbringing. We do not, most of us, choose to die; nor do we choose the time and conditions of our death. But within this realm of choicelessness, we do choose how we live.
-Joseph Epstein (Essayist) Poker, as in life, is a game of choice. You make the correct decisions, and you will be rewarded over the long run. Make incorrect choices, and your bankroll will slowly bleed away. With poker, as in life, we have many choices, the most important choice is how we choose to take control of our game. Through my observation of poker players behavioral patterns, the dialogue on 2p2, a lot reading and personal experience, I strongly believe the path to success at the poker tables begins by control over your life, your emotions and complete control over the choices you make at the poker table. Control Control of your life I don't want to come off as too preachy or Doctor Phil-like here, but IMHO success at the poker tables over the long run correlates to healthy life choices. In my personal experience, I play the worst when there is unhealthy stress in my life. Whether this comes from tension with loved ones, overwork, or any number of things, stress affects my ability to make correct choices at the table. I found that making some very simple, basic changes in my routines affected my ability to think, and reason at the poker table. <ul type="square"> [*]Eating well [*]Sleeping well[*]Staying active[*]And Maintaining healthy interpersonal relationships[/list] Control of your emotions This has been, and still is, one of the most difficult challenges for me as my poker game progresses. When I tilt, I tilt A LOT. Though some players seem to have a zen like ability to deal with the variance inherent in the game, I (along with many others) do not have that mental fortitude and patience, though I am improving. My lack of control of my emotions has been very costly. Only recently have I slowly been improving my emotional control at the poker table. IMO, tilt control/reduction begins with a strong emotional foundation. A healthy, positive attitude will often do wonders for your game. I am a classically trained cellist, and one of my professors was from Argentina. One day I brought my cello to a lesson, but we didn't work on the pieces I had memorized and prepared for my lesson, because she knew something was wrong. In her thick accent she told me, "You know, everyone in Argentina has a shrink, its good for you." Ultimately we spent the whole lesson discussing my personal life and how unrest at home and pent up aggression and anger were affecting my ability to perform. She suggested taking a vacation, I did, and came back refreshed with a new attitude on life and towards my instrument. Consequentially, I began making better decisions, my playing improved, and I went on to perform a concerto with the Wisconsin Chamber Orchestra and accepted the position of principal cellist in the Wisconsin Youth Symphony Orchestra. In short, control over your emotions will improve your decision making. Complete Control Actor Gary Collins once said, "We can try to avoid making choices by doing nothing, but even that is a decision." As he so succintly put it, every action we take is determined by a conscious choice. When you have complete control of your life and emotions, your ability to make better decisions at the poker table will increase exponentially. The ultimate goal of course, is to get to an almost transcendent state of decision-making at the card table where we can "see" our opponents cards and make perfect decisions according to the Fundamental Theorem of Poker. Though there is only so much we can control at the poker table, you have complete control over your decisions. By making good life choices, you will find that you are more observant at the poker table. You will feed off a new stream of information that will allow you to make more correct decisions. You will feel yourself controlling the table: changing gears appropriately, raising where you should raise, calling where you should call, and folding when you should fold, complete control. __________________________________________________ _____________ This post was not intended as a guide to success at the poker tables or in life. This is mostly just some of my random musings on Poker and Life. Though this post probably belongs in psychology, but SSNL is my home, and this is my 2500th post. Thank you for reading and allowing me to wax philosophic for a bit. SSNL has been a great home for me. SSNL is also constantly improving, with AJ as a mod now, Post content is improving and the signal to noise ratio is increasing. I look forward to the future of SSNL. |
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Great post quark.
I'd just like to point out that players often underrate the effect they're personal problems have on their game, I've done this with horrible results several times. |
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Great post quark. I'd just like to point out that players often underrate the effect they're personal problems have on their game, I've done this with horrible results several times. [/ QUOTE ] some good [censored] in SSNL this weekend. |
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Very nice post.
[ QUOTE ] <ul type="square"> [*]Eating well [*]Sleeping well[*]Staying active[*]And Maintaining healthy interpersonal relationships[/list] [/ QUOTE ] Very important list that is often neglected by poker players. I am guilty of it as well. Lately (last 2-3months) I have cut my poker hours and put more focus on things found in that list and you know what -- my winrate has increased. It really isn't about the quantity hours you put into the game it is about the quality. You can't have quality without adhering to what quarkncover listed. |
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Good stuff!!!
can someone digest all of this great content as I think I've missed lots of it. Up til recently I was playing 6+ hours a day every day and getting more and more frustrated at my lack of progress. Last week I got more tilted than I ever have before and called off a whole 2 buyins making stupid idiot calls that I knew well enough not to make. I was so upset with myself that I cashed everything out to NeTeller and haven't sat at a singlepoker table now for nearly a week. Didn't read SSNL up till yesterday - haven't even opened a poker book - generally having time off poker. I can highly recommend it [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] I shall get back to playing (and posting more) very soon - and hopefully my new Zen like state will have better results. |
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Didn't read SSNL up till yesterday - haven't even opened a poker book - generally having time off poker. I can highly recommend it [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] I shall get back to playing (and posting more) very soon - and hopefully my new Zen like state will have better results. [/ QUOTE ] Short breaks can sometimes remedy fatigue at the table, but to prevent burnout, periodic vacations are a must. Glad to see you have control matrix [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img] |
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Very nice post Quark.
It probably applies more to everyday life than it does to the poker tables, but it's great general advice. Speaking as an old man (45+), I can tell you that life is going to throw you curves just like the cards do at a poker table. Following the 4 bullets listed can go a long way towards handling all the little and big curve balls that are thrown your way. |
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very nice post quark. I guess this makes up for not doing a pooh bah. Unless you did one and I missed it.
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I am an an angry individual. At the poker table I am usually calm. For me there are two things needed to play consistent winning poker. A huge comfortable bankroll. And playing at stakes you feel you kill. Not just playing at stakes you feel good enough to play at, but at a level where you feel you are one of the best few on the site.
If I play above my comfort level, bad beats worry me, I tilt off money making stupid bluffs, and generally play sub optimally. But thats me. |
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very nice post quark. I guess this makes up for not doing a pooh bah. Unless you did one and I missed it. [/ QUOTE ] No pooh-bah post [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img] |
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Awesome post Quark!
[ QUOTE ] I'd just like to point out that players often underrate the effect they're personal problems have on their game. [/ QUOTE ] My little 14yo dog died at night recently. I couldn't sleep so I decided to get some poker in. I dropped 9 buyins in three hours. |
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true, everytime i start mackin a new broad i break even for that month haha.
so bad.. girls are the friggen rake p..s. ive never had break even month haha jk |
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I think your last bullet-point is too euphemistic. Let's just be blunt about what it means:
Don't date psychotic girls. It will [censored] up your game, for real. Good post. Very true on all counts. I hate playing when I know I'm majorly off in one of those areas. |
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great post man.
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good post my man. hope you've been continually killing the 50s lately :)
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Nice post. I especially like your quotes and examples. As I mentioned via IM, I'm going through a downswing so I can use a good inspirational talk. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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very good post and probably the most underrated part of playing for a living
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Thanks for taking the time to post that. I agree, lacking a good foundation in your personal life and habits will show at the table. I want to share a little story about myself. Over the course of about 4 - 5 months I played holdem exclusviely for about 8 hours a day, 7 days a week, and did almost nothing else. While I generated a decent roll, from my initial $130 deposit, I really killed the "fun" aspect of the game. No longer enjoying the grind, I started playing reckless, loose, and misguided. As a result, my bankroll diminished, like OP said, and I stopped lusting after the game. Poker sucked.
Took a month off, now I'm playing abridged sessions, and limiting my weekly intake, and playing better poker than ever. My winrate is growing exponentially, and I'm having fun. If it weren't for posts like these, I'd probably have cashed out, and wouldn't be blessing you, and SSNL with my presence. [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img] Once again, thanks Quark! |
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I'll join in and also say this is a great post. Thanks. I'm sure it's very common for people to overlook their emotional state before playing and it's great you took the time to make a point of this for all of us.
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That Bartlett's Book of Quotations was money well spent.
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Quality post, Quark. I can relate -- had been playing several hours daily with a sub-optimal BB/100 for the past 2 weeks. I took a couple days off of poker while some friends of mine were in town from Philadelphia over the holiday weekend. Jumped back on the horse yesterday afternoon well-rested & with a clear head...and presto! Up 225 BBs in 1.5 hours.
I play SO much more optimally when not aggravated by work & personal issues it's not even funny. Emotional well-being is highly important, IMO, to being a successful player long term and avoiding tilt short term. p.s. Quark, do you still live in Wisconsin? I can also relate to your musical musings as a classical/jazz trumpet player. |
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TurdFerguson-
Yes I still live in WI, are you in the area? All- Thanks for reading my post, I would be half the player I am without SSNL, y'all have been a fantastic support group. We have a really great community here. |
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Quark:
I'm in the Chicago area, but my SO went to UW-Madison, and her parents live up by the Dells. So I'm up there with some frequency. Are you in Madison or elsewhere? |
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Turd-
I live outside Milwaukee. We should meet up for a day trip to a casino in the area sometime this summer. PM me if interested. |
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Quark-
Great post. This is important to all sorts of things. I don't play as much poker as many of ya'll, so this stuff affects the rest of my life more than poker for me, but I think that just makes it *more* important. Hope Wisconsin cools down a bit for you (I was in Burlington and Madison over the weekend). -poincaraux |
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Will do. Thanks!
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Bump.
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I have no shame. [/ QUOTE ] But you've got the lobes to play the game. Great post -- you are hereby forgiven for the lack of a Pooh-Bah post. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] |
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Turd- I live outside Milwaukee. We should meet up for a day trip to a casino in the area sometime this summer. PM me if interested. [/ QUOTE ] Holy crap, I'm probably an hour away from you - just south of Madison. I'll come rub your ears. |
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[ QUOTE ] Turd- I live outside Milwaukee. We should meet up for a day trip to a casino in the area sometime this summer. PM me if interested. [/ QUOTE ] Holy crap, I'm probably an hour away from you - just south of Madison. I'll come rub your ears. [/ QUOTE ] How far south are we talking? Are we talking Cambridge or Janesville? I was just up past the Dells 2 weeks ago. |
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hello
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Great post.
Sometimes we feel that poker will make us feel better or solve our problems for us when we are going through a hard time. I used to feel this way, and trust me, it makes everything so much worse. Poker is a game that you should only play when you have everything the quark listed up to par. Having a girlfriend that loves you, and that you can talk to, etc, really helps too. But as was pointed out, make sure you dont get a psychotic one! -Tickner |
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hu for 100$ ???
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Great post, thanks for taking the time!
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Quark hasn't posted for 4 months. Where the hell is he?
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