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Sushiglutton 05-22-2006 04:25 PM

JTs
 
Played a mini-session trying to get my game together. Only played like 6 hands before this one but BB and MP2 seemed loose and not too hasty to fold. Line ok or should I be more aggro?


Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (8 handed) CP hand converter

Preflop: Hero is UTG with T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
Hero calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises</font>, BB calls, Hero calls, MP2 calls.

Flop: (8 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP2 calls, SB calls, BB calls.

Turn: (6 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks, MP2 checks.

River: (6 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks, MP2 checks.

Final Pot: 6 BB

sean c 05-22-2006 04:27 PM

Re: JTs
 
NH.

FUJItheFISH 05-22-2006 04:30 PM

Re: JTs
 
loose and likely to call?

flop bet is reasonable but only because you could pick up a flush draw on the turn. i might just check the flop too. everything else looks good.

fuji

Despos 05-22-2006 04:39 PM

Re: JTs
 
Grunch

Bet the turn, I'd say. I don't think there's any overpairs judging by the flop calls. I'd take an out away for the times your str8 hits with a diamond to give someone a flush but also you gotta add 1.5 for your overcards. I say 1.5 cause the ten possibly gives a str8.

Sushiglutton 05-22-2006 04:43 PM

Re: JTs
 
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loose and likely to call?

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Yep and they also seemed to play too many hands and go to far with them [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img].

Aaron W. 05-22-2006 05:29 PM

Re: JTs
 
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Bet the turn, I'd say.

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Loc: Spewing chips on UB

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This provides insight...

sean c 05-22-2006 05:29 PM

Re: JTs
 
I really like the flop bet. It probably has value against this field and very well may get you a free turn card. SB will check/raise you here a certain % of the time but its really not the end of the world IMO.

tehox 05-22-2006 05:44 PM

Re: JTs
 
nh. I think that you are probably not winning unimproved here and if I can get free river card that would be awesome.

CrMenace 05-22-2006 05:47 PM

Re: JTs
 
*grunch* Looks like an okay line to me. You got a free card on the turn without even paying for one. On the river, any caller has you beat.

Veron 05-22-2006 05:51 PM

Re: JTs
 
Grunch

I would bet the turn with your OESD and 2 overcards

paiz 05-22-2006 05:54 PM

Re: JTs
 
eww calling stations...

I think in this situation your bets on the turn / river will make some but not all three of them fold. You could have still bet the turn with ur OESD but since u want to see that cheap, when you don't hit it sucks :P

sean c 05-22-2006 05:57 PM

Re: JTs
 
Guys betting the turn in this hand sucks the old donkey balls.

shadeball 05-22-2006 06:02 PM

Re: JTs
 
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Guys betting the turn in this hand sucks the old donkey balls.

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i agree

drzen 05-22-2006 07:59 PM

Re: JTs
 
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Grunch

I would bet the turn with your OESD and 2 overcards

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Why? You have three opponents and are just shy of 5 to 1 to hit the straight. All three probably have something that beats a J in their hand; in any case the chances of none of them having a bigger broadway are zero. So you're behind at the turn and even if you awarded yourself 3 outs for the OCs and didn't consider your diamond straight outs to be dirty, you'd still be worse than 3 to 1 to be ahead at the river. You don't have equity and are simply giving away money if you bet.


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