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Warik 05-20-2006 03:39 PM

Buying expensive jeans - trip report
 
I don't often wear jeans... not because I don't like them, but because I don't have a pair that fit me well. The only pair of jeans I have that "fit" me are the ones I was wearing when I had a 36" waist. I've kept up with my new year's fitness resolution and am now down to 33". I needed new jeans. I had recently run very well in poker playing fishy above my bankroll, so I decided to go to Nordstrom with my girlfriend. My budget for this purchase was $200.

I had never been to Nordstrom. It's nice inside. Shiny, reflective tile floor... some dude playing the piano... lots of open space. Smelled pretty nice too. Ah! I found some jeans. A pair of Hugo Boss jeans to be exact. Blue. Plain. I like. She doesn't - but hey, they're going to be my jeans, aren't they? I grab a 33x30 and a 34x30.

"Can I help you with something, sir?"

Oh great. A salesrep trying to help me. Normally I'd rather just look for stuff myself, but I was unfamiliar with the layout of the store, so I accepted his aid.

"Jeans! All of them! BRING ME ALL OF YOUR JEANS!!!"

OK - I didn't really say that... but that's what happened. He looked like a packmule. He grabbed one pair of almost everything in sight in size 33x30 and 34x30 and we walked to the fitting room with my girlfriend and this gay salesrep. Good - I'll get two opinions on my choices now.

I stand in the fitting room with jeans all over the place. Hugo Boss, Lucky, AG, Indigo Palms, Diesel, Ermenegildo Zegna, and others. I try the Hugo Boss first.

They don't freaking fit - either size. wtf?

Ah yes... I remember wtf. I may have a fairly narrow waist, but my legs and ass disproportionately bigger due to years of heavy squatting. EVERY SINGLE PAIR OF JEANS these dudes brought me fit perfectly on the waist but tight in the ass, thigh, and crotch area. I swear - it felt like I was wearing girls' jeans.

To summarize, I tried on over 20 pairs of jeans in waist sizes 33 and 34 ranging from $75 to $175 in price. Not a single pair fit comfortably.

Discouraged, I left... doomed to never wear jeans again.

I then bought a pair of Levis and Ralph Laurens at Macy's. The Levis were $29.99 and the Ralph Laurens were $14.99. They fit perfectly and looked better than any of the jeans I tried on.

[censored] you and your overpriced clothes, Nordstrom.

Cliff's Notes: Warik wants super fancy jeans from Nordstrom. He tries on every single pair his size in the store and none of them fit. He then pays 5x less for 2 pairs at Macy's that look the same as the Nordstrom and fit better.

d-baggery 05-20-2006 03:42 PM

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Polo jeans are the way to go. They're just jeans for god's sake. I do own a pair of these, however:
http://chronicmagazine.com/uploaded_...2923_evisu.jpg

shant 05-20-2006 03:43 PM

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They're supposed to fit tight in those areas.

shant 05-20-2006 03:44 PM

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You own Evisus and recommend Polos. [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

Warik 05-20-2006 03:46 PM

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They're supposed to fit tight in those areas.

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The RLs & Levis are tight in those areas. The Nordstrom jeans were TOO tight... tight in the sense that I felt constant pressure on my hips and couldn't put my hands or keys in the pockets, and the back hugged the contours of my ass the way you'd want a pair of girl's jeans to hug theirs.

They looked very very bad. Even the gay dude said so.

d-baggery 05-20-2006 03:47 PM

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You own Evisus and recommend Polos. [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

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Yeah. I don't like the Evisus any better, I just bought them to look cool.

yasher 05-20-2006 03:48 PM

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They're supposed to fit tight in those areas.

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Yeah, did you GF not think they made your ass/package look good?

I'm serious here. Was it just your issue, or did she agree with you on all counts?

I go shopping for jeans that fit tight in the ass, crotch and thighs. I have a very hard time finding good jeans. You're lucky and don't even know it!

yasher

Yeti 05-20-2006 03:51 PM

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yasher,

"I go shopping for jeans that fit tight in the crotch. I have a very hard time finding jeans."

Ever think that the problem might be in your department, champ?

Warik 05-20-2006 03:55 PM

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Yeah, did you GF not think they made your ass/package look good?

I'm serious here. Was it just your issue, or did she agree with you on all counts?

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Both she and the gay dude agreed man... too tight = bad... these were way too tight.

I think you are grossly underestimating the size of my ass.

yasher 05-20-2006 03:58 PM

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Yeti,

Its a rough time finding jeans that're big enough to hold the monster, much less ones that'll hold him tight.

Warik,

A big ass does make jean shopping hard, so I've heard. But its nothing compared to the trials and tribulations of having a gigantic wang!

yasher

worthless 05-20-2006 04:00 PM

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I have a pretty fat ass for a 36 waist and I haveseveral pairs of lucky jeans that fit me real well and I really like. Maybe you should go try them again.

guids 05-20-2006 04:01 PM

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Warik, Im built like you, i dont really wear jeans often, but when I do I get eddie bauers, they fit really well. I cant wear most european designed jeans because they fit weird, same goes for bananna republics. Express for men usually has decent fitting jeans for 80-150.

Warik 05-20-2006 04:01 PM

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A big ass does make jean shopping hard, so I've heard. But its nothing compared to the trials and tribulations of having a gigantic wang!

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A gigantic wang does make jean shopping hard, so I've heard. But its nothing compared to the trials and tribulations of having both a big ass AND a gigantic wang.
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private joker 05-20-2006 04:20 PM

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This is a funny post to me because my Sunday just a few weeks ago started off just like this.

Having never purchased a pair of jeans over $50 in my life (actually probably $40), I wandered into Nordstrom's while waiting for a movie showtime. I definitely needed some good jeans, and I decided to treat myself with an expensive pair. I look at a bunch before discovering a rack of 7 (FOR ALL MANKIND!!!!!!) jeans that look pretty good.

I try a few on, and eventually one pair really feel great and look pretty decent. 7 jeans are fairly tight in the seat, but I'm skinny so it's no big deal. I'm also pretty tall, but the 32 waist size ones were long enough not to look too short, but not also dragging along the ground.

They were $185 and today I still do not regret the purchase. However, they did lead to the button fly thread I started a couple weeks ago here in OOT.

I'm gonna wear the hell out of them...

Barfunkel 05-20-2006 05:01 PM

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Over here the general consensus is that jeans under 100€ (130$) aren't worth purchasing and good jeans start at about 150€ (190$).

Yeah, we europeans are crazy.

It's not elitism really though (or at least not _just_ elitism), cheap jeans just usually look and feel bad. I usually wear Armani cos they are the only jeans that usually fit. If it's not Armani it's some other Italian brand, I have a slim ass so I can't wear those baggy jeans, I want my jeans tight and italians usually provide adequate tightness.

Tron 05-20-2006 05:12 PM

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He then pays 5x less for 2 pairs at Macy's that look the same as the Nordstrom and fit better

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Doubt it. (Though I guess you could say "fit" is subjective)

scraggs 05-20-2006 06:34 PM

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lucky fits bigger guys, ag's "the symbol" and "the hero" should fit, as well. try another nordstrom or a bloomingdale's if you can't find them

Warik 05-20-2006 06:51 PM

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He then pays 5x less for 2 pairs at Macy's that look better according to my girlfriend as the Nordstrom and fit better

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Doubt it. (Though I guess you could say "fit" is subjective)

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FMP

Tron 05-20-2006 06:58 PM

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He then pays 5x less for 2 pairs at Macy's that look better according to my girlfriend as the Nordstrom and fit better

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Doubt it. (Though I guess you could say "fit" is subjective)

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Fair enough.

Seriously, good luck finding some high-end jeans that fit you; the difference in quality is incredible (though not immediately noticeable).

guids 05-20-2006 07:10 PM

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Being a jean snob is akin to being a snob of 1992 toyota corrolas.

yasher 05-20-2006 07:19 PM

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http://img381.imageshack.us/img381/9...178full3jk.jpg

that's corolla, you ass.

Barfunkel 05-20-2006 07:22 PM

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For that analogy to be true there'd have to be designer 1992 Toyota Corollas costing dozens of times more than a usual Toyota.

guids 05-20-2006 07:23 PM

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For that analogy to be true there'd have to be designer 1992 Toyota Corollas costing dozens of times more than a usual Toyota.

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No, not really. Would you want to be roll up to a nice event in a Toyota Corrola? Then why would you want to in jeans?

Warik 05-20-2006 07:28 PM

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No, not really. Would you want to be roll up to a nice event in a Toyota Corrola? Then why would you want to in jeans?

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It's different. You "roll up" to a nice event in a pair of jeans, they look at the pair of jeans, and say "oh, it's nice." No one is going to move my belt out of the way of the label to see who makes them. If they look good, they look good.

And these look good... aww yeah. Going to take them for a test drive.

guids 05-20-2006 07:33 PM

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No, not really. Would you want to be roll up to a nice event in a Toyota Corrola? Then why would you want to in jeans?

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It's different. You "roll up" to a nice event in a pair of jeans, they look at the pair of jeans, and say "oh, it's nice." No one is going to move my belt out of the way of the label to see who makes them. If they look good, they look good.

And these look good... aww yeah. Going to take them for a test drive.

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This was aimed at the guy who only wears gucci's etc. Im TT-esque when it comes to clothes, I got myslef a closet full that would make some of you guys vomit. I have like 4 pairs of jeans though, and they all cost 50 or 60 bucks. There is really no difference in fit as long as you find a cut you like between a 50 or 500$ pair. And most jeans look very similar anyways. Dunno, I just hate guys who wear jeans to formal events etc, and justify it by saying they spend 300$ on them. Classless, imo (even by my low standards).

Barfunkel 05-20-2006 07:41 PM

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That's missing a point. I wouldn't wear jeans to a black tie-event, but I wouldn't wear a dinner jacket to a trendy club either. If I attend a function where jeans are the best option I will wear the best jeans I can get, the same way I would wear a bespoke suit to a business meeting. These days there are no universal dresscodes, each subculture has it's own. I do wear suits to punk gigs though, but's that's kind of correct too, since I am deliberately objecting the way traditional punk uniform has become exactly that, a uniform and not a way of individualistic expression.

Sidenote: If I had the right to choose, every man would wear a bespoke 3-piece suit in public but since that's impossible in today's "individualistic" world I just try to do the best that I can. I sometimes wear jeans because sometimes that is the correct attire.

guids 05-20-2006 07:46 PM

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That's missing a point. I wouldn't wear jeans to a black tie-event, but I wouldn't wear a dinner jacket to a trendy club either. If I attend a function where jeans are the best option I will wear the best jeans I can get, the same way I would wear a bespoke suit to a business meeting. These days there are no universal dresscodes, each subculture has it's own. I do wear suits to punk gigs though, but's that's kind of correct too, since I am deliberately objecting the way traditional punk uniform has become exactly that, a uniform and not a way of individualistic expression.

Sidenote: If I had the right to choose, every man would wear a bespoke 3-piece suit in public but since that's impossible in today's "individualistic" world I just try to do the best that I can. I sometimes wear jeans because sometimes that is the correct attire.

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Im with ya, but I usually overdress no matter what the event too, so if jeans are acceptable, I probably wont be in jeans.

FlyWf 05-20-2006 09:25 PM

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the difference in quality is incredible (though not immediately noticeable).

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That's incorrect pretty much by definition.

CheckRaise 05-20-2006 09:49 PM

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I buy $40 jeans and can wear them for years without them ripping or coming apart. How can the difference in quality be that great? I think some of you guys are just fashion snobs throwing around some BS about quality so you can justify spending $200 on a pair of jeans.

PS. those black jeans pictured above are hideous.

Tron 05-20-2006 10:44 PM

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the difference in quality is incredible (though not immediately noticeable).

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That's incorrect pretty much by definition.

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Please explain.

FlyWf 05-20-2006 10:52 PM

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Incredible things are immediately noticable.

d-baggery 05-20-2006 10:55 PM

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Incredible things are immediately noticable.

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No. Incorrect. You lose.

illusionS 05-21-2006 12:03 AM

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I bought a couple of a/x jeans on sale this winter and noticed immediatly that they were better quality than the american eagle jeans that I had owned previously. I don't understand how people can't feel the difference when they first put a decent pair of jeans on.

shant 05-21-2006 12:52 AM

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I don't need to justify to you or an internet forum spending any amount on something I like. We're actually trying to help by recommending something we have had a good experience with. If you are content with your Anchor Blues, then ignore the thread. I really don't see the reason to hate.

traz 05-21-2006 12:52 AM

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My budget for jeans is $30-40 a pair, and they always fit great and last long

d-baggery 05-21-2006 12:53 AM

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If you are content with your Anchor Blues, then ignore the thread.

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I find this comment very funny because I purchased a pair of Anchor Blue jeans for like $8 and they are the worst jeans I've ever worn. Yes, I still wear them sometimes.

sushijerk 05-21-2006 01:06 AM

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I will never understand the premium denim fad. 5 years ago nobody gave a crap what kind of jeans you wore but now everybody with "taste" is sporting a rent check on thier lower body. Granted my $80 jeans are way more awesome than my $30 Old Navy ones and it's not even close, but breaking $200 is just not practical.

There is no way anyone can convince me that this looks good.
http://www.evisu.com/Evisu/images/Pr...S06MJE09_1.jpg

shant 05-21-2006 01:12 AM

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Sushi, those look stupid. Just because a company has one pair of jeans that don't look good doesn't really change any part of this conversation. I could find a suit that costs ~$1000 and looks retarded, that doesn't mean people shouldn't spend that much on a nice suit.

Also, 5 years ago people most definitely cared about what jeans they were wearing. I remember because I use to express my shock at people who would pay $200 for Diesel jeans. I think you're incorrect on that one, because I can remember ten years back in high school people worrying about what type of jeans they were wearing and how much they cost. I remember trying to convince my parents to buy me some Cross Colours because of the hip hop videos I watched.

sushijerk 05-21-2006 01:32 AM

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Shant, those jeans look silly yet there are currently many of people who will shell out hundreds of dollars for that specific pair. There are people who will buy a fake pair of those jeans so they can wear them at a party. NYC/Ebay is flooded with knockoffs and everytime Evisu has a sample sale there will be tons of people buying what are very ugly jeans for very high prices in what is not necessarily even thier size.

My point is that unlike tuxedos, the demand for expensive, "premium" jeans is created by a need to exude affluence, and not necessarily quality or style. A Brooks Brothers suit will always look great, and is likely a good investment. Many expensive jeans, particularly the ones meant to show off a specific brand, will look very silly a few years down the road.

FlyWf 05-21-2006 01:35 AM

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How incredible can something be if it escapes notice? It's not like jeans are multifaceted objects. You wear them on your legs. They either fit well or not, look good or not, etc.

And if it's a durability issue, what the [censored] are you doing to your pants? I've had $20-$50 pairs of jeans that last years of normal use. Given that $20 gets you jeans that last 2-3 years, $200 jeans would have to last a quarter of a goddamn century to be the better purchase ceteris paribus. I don't think that's really the issue, though.


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