5/10NL - Weak?
 

I'm playing solid and not getting out of line (that they caught) and my opponent is pretty solid as well. Who plays this different and how? fwiw, my smallish turn bet was meant to represent a flush begging to get called.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $10 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG ($1201.75)
UTG+1 ($988)
Hero ($1267.50)
MP2 ($894.35)
MP3 ($190)
CO ($1109.75)
Button ($1074.50)
SB ($867.50)
BB ($1847)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls $10, Hero calls $10, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($40) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets $40</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $100</font>, SB folds, BB folds, UTG+1 calls $60.

Turn: ($240) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $100</font>, UTG+1 calls $100.

River: ($440) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG+1 checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: $440

Kirk

Re: 5/10NL - Weak?
 

I think you're overthinking. Bet more on turn so that if you are check raised you can easily throw it away, especially without a diamond in your hand. Check behind on river is fine as you are going to have trouble getting called by any hand that you beat.

Meh. Results.
 

He had KQo and we chopped it up. I didn't like the hand b/c I'm pretty sure a solid player (that I percieved my opponent to be) isn't calling the turn with a weaker Q, but a river bet will get rid of AQ/KQ often times to be worth it.

Anyway, haven't played in a couple of months and now trying to "get back in shape." Any help appreciated.

Kirk

Re: 5/10NL - Weak?
 

your flop raise is wretched.. raise more. alot more. id make it 160.

turn is weird too

generally though this is OK played, it's a medium sized pot which was limped where you have tp2k, so it's fine. I hope he had jt / qj / etc.

Re: 5/10NL - Weak?
 

Do you normally make semi-bluffs that give your opponent 3:1 on the flop?

Re: 5/10NL - Weak?
 

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Do you normally make semi-bluffs that give your opponent 3:1 on the flop?

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who cares?

it doesnt matter what you would do with X hands, it only matters what you do with what you have (if that makes sense)

and here your raise is too small, gg.

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who cares?

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He should, because giving someone 3:1 when you're trying to make them fold isn't a great way to achieve that goal.


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it doesnt matter what you would do with X hands, it only matters what you do with what you have (if that makes sense)

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What the hell is the difference between what you'd do with X hand and current hand? There aren't 2 different hands when you're trying to represent only one.


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and here your raise is too small, gg.

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I concur.

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who cares?

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He should, because giving someone 3:1 when you're trying to make them fold isn't a great way to achieve that goal.


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umm,lol ???? I would be raising this flop not because I'm bluffing (and hoping he folds).

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it doesnt matter what you would do with X hands, it only matters what you do with what you have (if that makes sense)

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What the hell is the difference between what you'd do with X hand and current hand? There aren't 2 different hands when you're trying to represent only one.

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Either I dont understand a word you wrote above or you didn't understand what I wrote. The latter is more likely then the former.

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umm,lol ???? I would be raising this flop not because I'm bluffing (and hoping he folds).

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Either I dont understand a word you wrote above or you didn't understand what I wrote.

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umm,lol ???? I would be raising this flop not because I'm bluffing (and hoping he folds).

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Either I dont understand a word you wrote above or you didn't understand what I wrote.

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Ok, I'll answer this with a simple question: Why would you raise the flop?

Re: 5/10NL - Weak?
 

Feel free to raise this up preflop if you like.

Raise more on the flop.

Bet more on the turn, and that's the last money you put into the pot.

Check behind on river is standard.

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Why would you raise the flop?

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In THIS instance with HIS holding? If I'm raising here it's because I think I have the best hand and want to charge other hands or because I think I can get a better one to fold. That's obvious crap. I wouldn't be in this position anyway cause I think I either raise or fold this preflop.

I was asking him if he usually makes a semi-bluff with such a weak raise because it's [censored] and won't have much FE against the range of Villain's holdings. I think it's even worse when you're faking a semi-bluff, although he probably wasn't planning representing Diamonds until the flush hit, which I also think is [censored].

Re: 5/10NL - Weak?
 

Wow, I hate this so much.

Limp pf, meh. I raise or fold. Leaning heavily towards raise.

Flop raise is absolutely horrible. What are you accomplishing?

Turn is meh. I either just check through getting ready to bet pot for value on river or bet out 200 right here. If he's calling 100 here's calling 200. If he CRs you on turn you are folding anyway, so you lose less, but why are you trying to freeze him up with a hand that has so much value in it?

With the way the hand was played? I bet this river for value every time. If you had bet 200-250 on the turn I check through the river, but after you half potted it I'm pretty sure I'm just gonna go for a bet of 200 on the river also. He called your tiny raise on the flop and your tiny bet on the turn, though that 9 is pretty [censored]. If you get CRed you can dump it, but I feel like there is just too much value left and that JJ/TT call here (if they played it up to this point this way) and QJ/QT call here (ditto). I think a lot of why I'm saying this is because of how small every bet you made in this hand was.