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wtfsvi 05-17-2006 09:35 PM

NL$1k, calling for a split on the river
 
Villain is 35/16/3.4. More aggro on the flop than on the other streets. I've reraised him every time he has opened the last few orbits. Last time he typed "having fun?" in the chatbox before he folded. Very next hand:

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

SB ($2290.16)
BB ($1177.50)
UTG ($1899.30)
MP (villain) ($1197)
Hero ($2001.12)
Button ($1000)

Preflop: Hero is CO with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $5.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP(villain) raises to $30</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $100</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP :#A500AF(villain)/ calls $70.

Flop: ($215) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
villain checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $150</font>, villain calls $150.

Turn: ($515) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
villain checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $250</font>, villain calls $250.

River: ($1015) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">villain instapushes for $697</font>, Hero..?

Final Pot: $1712

edit: On party, if it makes a difference. And comments on other streets are welcome too.

multious 05-17-2006 09:42 PM

Re: NL$1k, calling for a split on the river
 
wow I guess i would call because I couldn't put you on pocket 9's and would probably go all in with anything in his position but I hate situations like this

PartyGirlUK 05-17-2006 10:11 PM

Re: NL$1k, calling for a split on the river
 
Why the small flop and turn bets? I want to give him the chance to make a heroic call before the board gets too scary + protect my hand.

MDMA 05-17-2006 10:19 PM

Re: NL$1k, calling for a split on the river
 
Bet more on flop and turn and you won't even have a river decision.

franchise99 05-17-2006 10:33 PM

Re: NL$1k, calling for a split on the river
 
Easy call. Your good here 2/3 times, and the pot is laying you just worse than even money.

GTL 05-17-2006 11:08 PM

Re: NL$1k, calling for a split on the river
 
Bet 500 on the turn.

wtfsvi 05-17-2006 11:21 PM

Re: NL$1k, calling for a split on the river
 
Yeah. I agree my turn bet is bad. A case can be made for making it more preflop too, even though $100 was the amount I made it all the other times.

But is the river really an easy call?

aba20 05-17-2006 11:56 PM

Re: NL$1k, calling for a split on the river
 
[ QUOTE ]


But is the river really an easy call?

[/ QUOTE ]

Yes, I insta call.

hit_the_set 05-17-2006 11:57 PM

Re: NL$1k, calling for a split on the river
 
[ QUOTE ]
Bet more on flop and turn and you won't even have a river decision.

[/ QUOTE ]

Yes. POT IT.

BobboFitos 05-18-2006 06:08 AM

Re: NL$1k, calling for a split on the river
 
i disagree, i like the bet sizing and i like a river call

Maulik 05-18-2006 06:12 AM

Re: NL$1k, calling for a split on the river
 
BobboFitos,

Your box is full.

BobboFitos 05-18-2006 07:37 AM

Re: NL$1k, calling for a split on the river
 
Maulik,

thanks for letting me know, i cleared some

wtfsvi 05-18-2006 08:06 AM

Re: NL$1k, calling for a split on the river
 
[ QUOTE ]
i disagree, i like the bet sizing and i like a river call

[/ QUOTE ]
Cool. Against what hands in his range do you think $250 is better than $400?

BobboFitos 05-18-2006 11:58 AM

Re: NL$1k, calling for a split on the river
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
i disagree, i like the bet sizing and i like a river call

[/ QUOTE ]
Cool. Against what hands in his range do you think $250 is better than $400?

[/ QUOTE ]

all of them?

i would probably bet 275, but 250 is OK. {sum of his percieved hands} vs {his actual hands} a 250 (or 275) bet is &gt; 400. Hows that equation?

wtfsvi 05-18-2006 02:12 PM

Re: NL$1k, calling for a split on the river
 
Because we are inducing a push, right? And if we bet $400 there is no illusion of folding equity.

Roman 05-18-2006 02:24 PM

Re: NL$1k, calling for a split on the river
 
wow, u folded?

amoeba 05-18-2006 02:48 PM

Re: NL$1k, calling for a split on the river
 
is this your standard reraise amount?

BobboFitos 05-18-2006 03:04 PM

Re: NL$1k, calling for a split on the river
 
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Because we are inducing a push, right? And if we bet $400 there is no illusion of folding equity.

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yes and no

if you bet 400 you will never fold

if you bet 250 you probably wont, but you have the option, plus calling the all in becomes more correct

and more things\

wtfsvi 05-18-2006 05:39 PM

Re: NL$1k, calling for a split on the river
 
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is this your standard reraise amount?

[/ QUOTE ] Yeah. This is my standard reraise amount in position over a $30 open.

Snygaard 05-18-2006 06:04 PM

Re: NL$1k, calling for a split on the river
 
I would push this river with any two if I was villian... I would probably call a push with 1,5 times the pot.

Snygaard 05-18-2006 06:05 PM

Re: NL$1k, calling for a split on the river
 
How big does villians stack has to be for you to fold to the push?

wtfsvi 05-18-2006 08:37 PM

results
 
[ QUOTE ]
How big does villians stack has to be for you to fold to the push?

[/ QUOTE ] Well, I ran my timer down and folded in this hand. I honestly don't see people bluffing as much as one would think in these spots, and when they do they generally take two seconds before they come up with the fantastic idea. Since you all agree it's easy call though, I'll call next time.

TStoneMBD 05-20-2006 04:51 AM

Re: results
 
since he has to call a push with any 2, he might as well push himself as youd push with 99.

AlcateL 05-20-2006 06:27 AM

Re: NL$1k, calling for a split on the river
 
call


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