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NL100 KQ top pair
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No Limit Holdem Ring game Blinds: $0.50/$1 6 players Converter Stack sizes: Hero: $169.09 UTG+1: $90.39 CO: $60.80 Button: $43 SB: $175.46 BB: $124.45 Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $3</font>, UTG+1 folds, CO calls, Button folds, SB calls, BB folds. Flop: 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($10, 3 players) SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $6</font>, CO calls, SB folds. Turn: Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($22, 2 players) <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $13</font>, CO calls. River: 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($48, 2 players) <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $20</font>, CO calls. Results: Final pot: $88 Villian is passive, I think there are ver few hands im ahead of on the river, how to play this, comments? EDIT: Some stats on villian: 40/3/0.6 WTS:40 WOn@SD:70% over bit over 100 hands. |
Re: NL100 KQ top pair
nh
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Actually i dont really know, if i'M ahead on the river the most time.
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Actually i dont really know, if i'M ahead on the river the most time. [/ QUOTE ] Thats because you didn't tell us about villian. He's paassive, ok...but loose/tight? Will he calls with hands we beat? That's what we need to know. |
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this is a blocking bet it looks quite standard to me, i insta-muck even if im min raised
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this is a blocking bet it looks quite standard to me, i insta-muck even if im min raised [/ QUOTE ] Of course it is. But villian is passive. We dont need to block if he is not going to bet UNLESS he has us beat. |
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[ QUOTE ] this is a blocking bet it looks quite standard to me, i insta-muck even if im min raised [/ QUOTE ] Of course it is. But villian is passive. We dont need to block if he is not going to bet UNLESS he has us beat. [/ QUOTE ] good point, didnt think of this. though....do we know this? |
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Of course it is. But villian is passive. We dont need to block if he is not going to bet UNLESS he has us beat. [/ QUOTE ] I agree, it's safe to just check against villain with 0.6 aggression factor, 80% of the time he just checks behind, if he bets more than 1/3 pot, you can safely fold tpgk. |
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] this is a blocking bet it looks quite standard to me, i insta-muck even if im min raised [/ QUOTE ] Of course it is. But villian is passive. We dont need to block if he is not going to bet UNLESS he has us beat. [/ QUOTE ] good point, didnt think of this. though....do we know this? [/ QUOTE ] OP says villian is passive, that's all we know.... |
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oh he has 0.6 aggression factor yer we can prob check-fold.
EDIT: i still calla really weak bet |
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I like it. Hero hasn't exactly shown a lot of strength: both the pf-raise and the flop bet was on the small side and the turn bet on the flush card was a bit probe-ish. I can imagine even passive players trying to pick up the pot if we check the river and that would leave us with a tricky decision. I think a blocker (maybe a slightly smaller one) is perfectly fine here.
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Again, is it just me here? I bet $7/$8 here on the flop.
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Again, is it just me here? I bet $7/$8 here on the flop. [/ QUOTE ] It's not you. $6 bet screams "I'm weak!"... |
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Two things i dont like.
1.KQs is not a hand i want to be raising utg. 2.The flop bet is too small. Make it at least 8. |
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I don't like the preflop raise or the flop cbet, but the rest seems fine. I might have made a value/blocking bet on the river, something like $15.
The reason I don't like the preflop raise is to keep you out of this exact situation. KQs is not strong enough to play OOP. A calling station like CO is going to call you with a variety of hands and you will only hit the flop about %35 of the time. Most of the time you will be OOP, without a hand, facing a calling station. This brings me to my second point. I don't like that cbet at all. You are trying to bluff a classic calling station. Never do that. Actually this is a perfect spot NOT to cbet. SB has already checked and CO is not going to bluff you. If he does bet, you can safely fold, knowing he has a better hand. |
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I'm borderline nit 18/14, and I open raise KQ from any position :\
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RAISING KQs UTG 6MAX IS PRETTY DAMN STANDARD Y'ALL
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Also, wouldn't we have a similar problem with AQ in this spot?
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RAISING KQs UTG 6MAX IS PRETTY DAMN STANDARD Y'ALL [/ QUOTE ] |
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What kind of an edge do you think you have when you raise KQ UTG?
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nh, standard hand.
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What kind of an edge do you think you have when you raise KQ UTG? [/ QUOTE ] I think that I am ahead of all lower non paired hands, I dominate a lot of broadway trash, Im dominated by a few big hands and Im a coinflip against PP up to JJ. |
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i would be happy checking the river with a passive player, especially as the queen came out on the turn, if he had top pair on flop but didnt hit two pair on the turn i cant see him raising the river unless hes beating you, maybe imagine to see
a,j, k,j possibly q,j but scared to raise as it was a flush card...but unlikely. Nh |
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What kind of an edge do you think you have when you raise KQ UTG? [/ QUOTE ] A really freaking big one. High, suited, connected cards are premium hands. Not raising this at 6 max is a leak. Edit, btw this hand is fine on all streets. Guy's a calling station. |
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