Blind squirrel finds nut. Film at 11.
 

So I missed a button re-raise opportunity PF, and probably should have raised flop given my read that Villain didn't have a 9. Query: as played, is the turn shove standard?

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
9 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $108.95
UTG+1: $57.80
MP1: $26.85
MP2: $39
MP3: $55.20
CO: $64.65
Turd: $43.60
SB: $45.75
BB: $64.60

Pre-flop: (9 players) Turd is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to $2</font>, 2 folds, MP2 calls, 2 folds, Turd calls, 2 folds.

Flop: 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($6.75, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">UTG bets $3</font>, MP2 calls, Turd calls.

Turn: Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($15.75, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">UTG bets $10</font>, MP2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Turd raises all-in $38.6</font>, UTG folds.
Uncalled bets: $28.6 returned to Turd.

Results:
Final pot: $35.75

Re: Blind squirrel finds nut. Film at 11.
 

why am i not surprised he folded...? i think youre often wa/wb when someone min raises preflop and bets two streets. do you have any reads? is he a wimp, or is he not scared to put money in when you act weak? i think you should play passively and hope for the best because youre wa/wb...but then again that sets you up to have to call a big bet on the river.

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After looking at this, I kind of like a turn smooth call. I dont think a raise at this point folds out better hands and you probably dont get many calls from worse hands. There arent really many scary river cards for you you either. If you smooth call the turn, you are still gonna stick your whole stack in there on the river.

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i was thinking the same thing.. pushing will get worse hands to fold and better ones will call.

i like the call and get the rest in on the river.

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I like the pf call, the flop call, and a turn call. Turn push only gets called by better hands.

Question to vulturesrow/beavens/anyone-- what is your plan if the river is a blank and villain checks?

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I like the pf call, the flop call, and a turn call. Turn push only gets called by better hands.

Question to vulturesrow/beavens/anyone-- what is your plan if the river is a blank and villain checks?

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hmm.. i think i'd probably make a 1/2 value bet.. either than or check behind.. but i feel that checking behind wouldnt be correct.

Re: Blind squirrel finds nut. Film at 11.
 

OP: read beavens's first post. His first sentense is what is important for you to know about this hand.

Re: Blind squirrel finds nut. Film at 11.
 

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I like the pf call, the flop call, and a turn call. Turn push only gets called by better hands.

Question to vulturesrow/beavens/anyone-- what is your plan if the river is a blank and villain checks?

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hmm.. i think i'd probably make a 1/2 value bet.. either than or check behind.. but i feel that checking behind wouldnt be correct.

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I agree that checking behind in this situation wouldn't be correct. This is in part why I pushed the turn -- if I call turn, I'd only have $25 left behind and a $35 pot, so I'd have to push anyway in your hypo. Is this the desired result (e.g. do we think we have the best hand here?)? Or am I over-thinking this?

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i think by pushing the turn you are missing out on value. you wont get the extra $ from worse hands that look you up on the river and you let the best hands make an easy call.

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yeah a value bet is good on the river now that i think about it.

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I agree, beavens. This is why I posted the hand. Immediately after Villain folded I concluded that I could've doubled up if I call &amp; push river. Villain's fold indicated to me she had some PP up to JJ, or 2 whiffed big cards (e.g. AJ).

Just wanted to make sure I'm thinking correctly. My past week on FTP has been very profitable for me (last night = +140BB, w00t! [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]), but I felt like I missed some easy $$$ here. [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img]

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raising the turn is really bad. If you are ahead here you are way way ahead, and if you are behind you are only a little bit behind because you likely have a bunch of flush outs that are good as well as potentially the ace or queen outs. I would just keep calling and let him hang himself. i really don't think anything calls that push that you beat.

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I like the pf call, the flop call, and a turn call. Turn push only gets called by better hands.

Question to vulturesrow/beavens/anyone-- what is your plan if the river is a blank and villain checks?

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As always, depends on what I think he would call with. At least 1/2 pot though, though it seems a bit silly to leave that little bit behind. I probably just push the river.