.5/1 6 max PUSH???
 

I've 106 villain has me covered.

I raise to 5 utg with q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]q [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]; villain calls in bb.

flop: [Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]] 12.5

I bet 8; villain min raises; I?.

standard bet 3bet all in, correct?

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you have good fold equity only 1 hand has you stuck up a creek and his minraise looks like a st.flush draw

I like a push, even if he flopped a monster, you have lots of redraws

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You don't want fold equity here. Nothing you are behind folds here. 3 bet all day long. Bet more on the flop, closer to pot sized. A push is probably a bit too big. You want a pair of aces to stay in.

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3 bet all day long. Bet more on the flop, closer to pot sized. A push is probably a bit too big. You want a pair of aces to stay in.

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Make it 60 and push any turn.

Paul

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Re-raise it to around $50. All in is an overbet. Why do you want to push Villain out so bad? Push any turn.

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i don't want to push him out. i'm worried about a turn card killing my action. Villain seems very interested now and it is an action flop.

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He could also be trying to pick off your c-bet or have Ax. You think Ax is calling a push on this board? Any decent player with AK will fold here to a push. Most players will probably fold A-rag to a push. Don't worry about a turn card killing your action. I'm putting around 1/2 of my stack in here and hoping for a call planning on pushing any turn. You can't just expect to stack him here simply b/c he min-raised the flop.

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i don't want to push him out. i'm worried about a turn card killing my action. Villain seems very interested now and it is an action flop.

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If you 3 bet to $50 or $60 and Villain cold calls, it's going to be very hard for him to get away from his hand on the turn with so much money already invested.

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I'm not thinking I'll stack him because of the minraise. I'm thinking flop texture is such that a push gets called by a lot of hands.

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I'm not thinking I'll stack him because of the minraise. I'm thinking flop texture is such that a push gets called by a lot of hands.

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A push will also make a lot of hands fold that might have called a regular flop 3-bet.

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I'm not thinking I'll stack him because of the minraise. I'm thinking flop texture is such that a push gets called by a lot of hands.

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A push will also make a lot of hands fold that might have called a regular flop 3-bet.

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Yeah, the power of pushing is fold equity, and we don't want fold equity here. You want hands that are drawing nearly dead to call. I'd 3bet enough to not give odds to the draws, but not too much so that he might call with Ax (if he's bad enough for that, a solid player would fold that of course.)

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So let's say I 3 bet but don't push all in and a spade falls on the turn--what non-flush hands that he has call if I push turn?

The power of pushing = fold-equity is only part of the equation.

If you can put villain on a range of 2nd best hands that will call a push, then better to do so when the getting is good, no?

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stack size problem

Raise an amount that will allow your turn lead to be 2/3 - 3/4 pot.

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i agree with 2paul2. Not only with his line, but with the fact that V. Marcill is quite hot.

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Plenty of hands will call when a spade comes because they will feel committed to the pot.

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Given the latter I'll have to concede.

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i don't want to push him out. i'm worried about a turn card killing my action. Villain seems very interested now and it is an action flop.

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This is very read dependent. If you think a push will get called by lesser hands because it looks "fishy" on your part, then do it.

Against an unknown, I re-raise to $55 and push any turn. If he calls, at that point the pot will be ~$120 and you'll be pushing < $50 bucks. And if you get stacked by KT, well, it was gonna happen anyway.

And who is V. Marcill?

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vanessa marcil aka his avatar aka an actress

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