vegas dealers, HELP! question about foreigners.
 

hey everyone,

so i'm going to vegas to live this summer with a few friends. right now i am living in spain, and when i move back, i have a friend who wants to move back with me to las vegas. he deals in our club we have here in madrid, and i think dealing in vegas would be a great opportunity for him to learn english better, make some money, and have fun.

i have a couple logistical questions though. first, how likely is it that he will be able to find a job? his dealing skills are good but his english is not very good, although he understands almost perfectly. he is going to work on it before coming for sure but what are generally the basic english requirementS? does anyone know dealers that don't speak perfect english?

secondly, the problem also exists in him getting some sort of work visa. i assume dealers are never paid under the table, so does anyone know generally what requirements are to work in the US? maybe if people know foreigner dealers, they might know already or be able to ask them (or direct me to someone who might know better)?

thanks so much for your help!
-duck

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does anyone know dealers that don't speak perfect english?


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awesome.

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There is zero chance of your friend getting a visa, or any kind of sponsorship for casino work.

If he is from western europe there is also zero chance of him being elligible for the green card lottery, this is now only open to eastern europeans.

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A better question would be does anyone know dealers who DO speak perfect english.

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A better question would be does anyone know dealers who DO speak perfect english.

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I did know of 2 at one time, but they both got lycnhed for being the minority.

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does anyone know dealers that don't speak perfect english?


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Pffffffffffffft!

Damn you, now I'm cleaning the beer off my computer screen.

He'd do a lot better to learn to communicate in English before he gets here tho.

The work visa will be hella important tho. Without proper documentation he won't get work, at least not in places like las vegas where they are picky, picky, picky. Beyond this, I know nothing of this subject so you must seek help elsewhere.

al

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perfect, now can someone give me a maybe useful answer?

he is from WESTERN europe, as i said i lived in SPAIN. if you took the time to look at a map you might see it's the most western apart from portugal.

now to the helpful answers - if none of the dealers speak good english, how do they get their jobs? does it involve sucking a lot of dick (i dont think my friend is too into that)? if not, what other methods might one employ?

thanks in advance for your kind kind help this lovely forum,
duck.

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Wow, like anyone is going to want to answer you now.

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Wow, are all you WESTERN EUROPEANS this nasty?

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perfect, now can someone give me a maybe useful answer?

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Your problem lies in that the majority of posters here are US citizens, as such we have no clue how to get a job in the US as a foreigner.

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"Your problem lies in that the majority of posters here are US citizens, as such we don't really want a job, not even the ones we already have."

FYP

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Duck, I take it you are an American citizen yourself? I think you will be surprised by how difficult it is for a non-citizen to get legal work in the US. I don't know of any avenues that would make it easy for your friend to get a work visa. If poker dealers were declared a priority occupation because local labour was in short supply, then that would help. But it's not likely to happen.

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Wow, are all you WESTERN EUROPEANS this nasty?

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nope mostly just the french. oh and i'm american so i think that's where it comes from.

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ok well thanks all for the help anyways, i know the question was sort of out in left field.

i guess i just see a disconnect that doesn't really have an explanation - many foreigners work as dealers in vegas, yet no one knows how in the hell they get those jobs. guess we'll have to go about figuring that out.

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secondly, the problem also exists in him getting some sort of work visa. i assume dealers are never paid under the table, so does anyone know generally what requirements are to work in the US? maybe if people know foreigner dealers, they might know already or be able to ask them (or direct me to someone who might know better)?


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Duck-

Tell your friend to visit the U.S. Embassy web page from whatever country he is from. Look at the Consular Section page (for example the page for Spain) and it will detail procedures for applying for temporary worker visas. One important note. Before visas like this are usually issued, you already have to have a job lined-up to include verification from an employer. Read the information under H – Temporary Work Visa carefully. Hope this helps.

p.s. Whatever happens, make sure he doesn't travel to the U.S. under visa waiver as a tourist and then try to get a job - This will almost surely result in your friend not getting a visa AND getting booted.

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perfect, now can someone give me a maybe useful answer?

he is from WESTERN europe, as i said i lived in SPAIN. if you took the time to look at a map you might see it's the most western apart from portugal.

now to the helpful answers - if none of the dealers speak good english, how do they get their jobs? does it involve sucking a lot of dick (i dont think my friend is too into that)? if not, what other methods might one employ?

thanks in advance for your kind kind help this lovely forum,
duck.

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Yes you said you live in Spain, how was anybody supposed to know your friend was from Western Europe ? Do they not have immigrants in Spain ?

Secondly, Portugal is not the most Westernly part of Europe, you may want to check your map again, do the same with your sttitude whilst at it.

Finally, I clearly stated he woould not get a visa, explained that Western Europeans can not enter the lottery, and finished off with the bit about Eatsern Europeans as I know many Eastern Europeans who work in the casino industry in Europe, and thought that just in case your friend was of Eastrn European ancestory the lottery may be a good idea.

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i guess i just see a disconnect that doesn't really have an explanation - many foreigners work as dealers in vegas, yet no one knows how in the hell they get those jobs. guess we'll have to go about figuring that out.

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Yes. Be sure to post a trip report once your friend is in (or finds out he can't get in).

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While not a poker dealer, I am a foreigner living in the US. Over the years I've gone through all the ins and outs of entering and living in the United States, first as a student, then on a work visa, and now finally with a green card.

Basically, you will have problems getting permission to stay unless you have family living in the States through whom you can get citizenship, or you are from a particularly poverished, war-torn country where you may or may not be fearing for your life on a daily basis.

Someone from Spain who doesn't have some sort of inside track basically will not get a work visa unless he has a very specific skill-set. Another option would be to attend school full-time and getting yourself a student visa. The problem with this is that you need to have some sort of sponsor that can back you financially if needed. Unless your friend has a lot of money saved up this could be tricky.

Perhaps your buddy should just consider marrying some American girl, as this is still the most reliable and fail-safe way to establish residence.

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If your friend is from Spain, that means he speaks Spanish.

Boy he is in luck. There are many openings in the "adult-oriented-card-passing-out" business in Vegas. From what I have seen, many of the current employees speak only Spanish and don't look like they have (or need) any american work documentation at all.

How good is he at poppin' cards with dirty pictures on them and then handing them to a guy holding hands with his daughter? Poppin' the card loudly is the key.


Apply at any street corner on the strip.

Re: vegas dealers, HELP! question about foreigners.
 

this is not so much a poker question