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Blarg 07-06-2007 06:41 PM

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Dude, there's also a huge difference in the granularity of the 3rd sense of people. Just because you can't taste a big difference in water doesn't mean that other people can't, either.

It's like some people being able to smell that someone has had a smoke from 5 miles away (my dad is one of those), while I can basically stand right next to that person and not notice it at all (and that being a non-smoker, fwiw).

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This is a good one. Coming from the tropics on the windward side of Oahu, the air got cleaned from traveling over thousands of miles of ocean, and it was incredibly fresh and clean. At that point, if someone had smoked a cigarette in a gymnasium-sized building in the last few hours, I could smell it.

Yet smokers often think cigarettes don't really smell so bad, or the stink doesn't really get in the oil on their skin, in their clothes, and in their hair so that they carry it with them from that point forward.

WRONG! Some people can tell much better than others, and smoking dulls your ability to smell your own smoke too, making smokers the least qualified to judge how much stink they're making and carrying around with them.

The Yugoslavian 07-06-2007 06:47 PM

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OP, dude, you'd LOOOOVE EUROPE! hahahahahahahahha

hahahahahahahahahahahahhaha

Yugoslav

renodoc 07-06-2007 06:58 PM

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this thread is tl;dr

wtf- Iron is siding with Stossel? Welcome to the Libertarian utopia to be!

Iron- time for an avatar change. 85% chance its BHO.

LetItBe 07-06-2007 07:05 PM

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At least people care about how their decision affect the environment....oh wait. Is it really that hard to buy a filter and a reusable bottle?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5279230/

That is the first article that popped up...it was a big problem 2 years ago. I can only imagine how much more of a problem it is now.

niss 07-06-2007 07:32 PM

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This whole thread is stupid. Why would anyone drink something that doesn't have either alcohol or caffeine in it?

emon87 07-06-2007 07:58 PM

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2. Yellow water is not bad for you usually, it just means you got a little rust in a pipe you hadn't used for a while.

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Who the [censored] uses a faucet so seldom the pipes start to rust, then decides to fill a bottle with water from the faucet, and THEN decides to drink the water when it comes out discolored?

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Just sayin, it won't hurt you at all.

Trix 07-06-2007 07:59 PM

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Try going to Denmark, Austria or another country with good tap water and you will know why I wont drink it here..

aislephive 07-06-2007 08:01 PM

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People who are saying that there is no noticable difference between tap water and bottled water are either poor, naive, or both.

nath 07-06-2007 08:02 PM

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The NY water is so good one former mayor (maybe Giuliani) considered bottling it and selling it.

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In Houston, they actually did sell tap water from bottles. The agency that makes water down there just took their normal supply, put it in jugs and slapped a "City of Houston" label on it. I got the impression that they were leveling all of us, but the water was available in stores.

Bottled water is a joke to people who know what they're talking about.

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Wow, that's awful. Houston tap water is by far the most disgusting I've ever encountered.

I usually don't like tap water, but I can drink it some places. I drink a lot of bottled water, but I'm on the road a lot. And I do prefer the taste and can tell the difference between some of them (Voss is my favorite but it's harder to find than I would have expected and it's fairly expensive). When I'm settled down in a domicile, I usually buy a Brita filter.

re: John Stossel, my anecdote is that once a few years ago I was watching 20/20 and he did some feature about how awful the makers of Monster were for suggesting that there was a human being in Aileen Wournos. At that point I decided he was an idiot.

nath 07-06-2007 08:05 PM

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This whole thread is stupid. Why would anyone drink something that doesn't have either alcohol or caffeine in it?

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Hangovers.

Wait, you said caffeine. Never mind.

Klompy 07-06-2007 08:10 PM

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People who are saying that there is no noticable difference between tap water and bottled water are either poor, naive, or both.

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Just because you notice that there's a difference doesn't mean you prefer one to the other. It's water, as long as it's wet and doesn't taste like complete ass I'm fine with it.

Shoe Lace 07-06-2007 08:12 PM

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Didn't read the whole thread or article but some tap water is worse than others. The tap water by me is pretty gross.

You can see "things" floating in it. They might not be bad for me health wise, but I don't even drink orange juice with pulp, there's no frikken way I'm drinking water with pulp.

Plus bottled water is not close to $1/b here when you buy it in bulk. You can get a case of 24 for $8 (if it's on sale).

dibbs 07-06-2007 08:13 PM

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Referring to a Stossel article destroys ones credibility, in reference to anything imaginable.

But yea, I buy 24 packs of bottled water for $4, and refill the empties with RI tap and throw them in the fridge, I probably buy a new pack every few months once the bottles get all beaten up or whatever. Not a big deal.

Runkmud 07-06-2007 08:16 PM

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While wholly aware of the whole bottled water scam, I have to ask if any of you have ever tried Florida tap water? It's absolutely disgusting, and has a very strong sulfer taste. Yes, I know bottled water is a scam, and rarely drink it, but I also assume you live in a locale where the tap water is drinkable.

dibbs 07-06-2007 08:18 PM

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Yes, I know bottled water is a scam, and rarely drink it, but I also assume you live in a locale where the tap water is drinkable.

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Yea, Miami tap was pretty damn gross IIRC, have you tried it after it's in the fridge? I know I don't love my tap when it's warm but it's good when it's cold.

econophile 07-06-2007 08:56 PM

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Dude, there's also a huge difference in the granularity of the 3rd sense of people. Just because you can't taste a big difference in water doesn't mean that other people can't, either.

It's like some people being able to smell that someone has had a smoke from 5 miles away (my dad is one of those), while I can basically stand right next to that person and not notice it at all (and that being a non-smoker, fwiw).

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i will grant you that some ppl are more sensitive to taste differences than others. that doesn't mean that they aren't susceptible to placebo effects.

southerndog 07-06-2007 11:12 PM

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I agree with the OP.

RoundGuy 07-06-2007 11:27 PM

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I agree with the OP.

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Tap water pussy.

Jack of Arcades 07-06-2007 11:40 PM

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Tap water here is pretty bad, but I've used a filter for years. Fill up a pitcher and you have cold water.

popeye18 07-06-2007 11:48 PM

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I didnt read the whole thread so this has probably been said, but i dont buy bottled water cause i think its better than tap, im buying it for convenience.

TreyWilly 07-06-2007 11:53 PM

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I'm sure this has happened to all of us:

Go to Vegas, get obscenely drunk and pass out in hotel room. Wake up four hours later feeling like you haven't had a sip since the 70s. Run to bathroom. Pound 20 of those tiny hotel glasses of Vegas tap water without thinking. Actually prefer desperately parched feeling to the taste in your mouth that will be there until you die.

Just such an experience sold me on bottled water for the rest of my life. That, and there's a factory in my home town in Colorado that mass produces Uranium cake.

Blarg 07-06-2007 11:57 PM

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I love cake!

tuq 07-07-2007 12:13 AM

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Go to Vegas, get obscenely drunk and pass out in hotel room. Wake up four hours later feeling like you haven't had a sip since the 70s. Run to bathroom. Pound 20 of those tiny hotel glasses of Vegas tap water without thinking. Actually prefer desperately parched feeling to the taste in your mouth that will be there until you die.

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You suck at being a Vegas baller. The correct play is to break down and pay ~$4/bottle for the Evian in the minibar.

NT! 07-07-2007 12:18 AM

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evian tastes like chalky ass

also, the people who are fish at life are the virgins who think drinking tap water makes them smarter than people who get laid at least once a year

tuq 07-07-2007 12:23 AM

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evian tastes like chalky ass

also, the people who are fish at life are the virgins who think drinking tap water makes them smarter than people who get laid at least once a year

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LOL, brutal.

As for Evian, I dunno, I don't buy that boutique-ass expensive water. But a couple of weeks ago I was in the Palm Springs area and my roommate and I rifled through a case of water from Ralph's in the course of our stay. By the last day we were out and he said [censored] it, I'm breaking into the minibar. That's when the Evian got cracked.

TreyWilly 07-07-2007 12:25 AM

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Go to Vegas, get obscenely drunk and pass out in hotel room. Wake up four hours later feeling like you haven't had a sip since the 70s. Run to bathroom. Pound 20 of those tiny hotel glasses of Vegas tap water without thinking. Actually prefer desperately parched feeling to the taste in your mouth that will be there until you die.

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You suck at being a Vegas baller. The correct play is to break down and pay ~$4/bottle for the Evian in the minibar.

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Do you always post the first obvious thought that enters your head? Seriously, you remind me of the kid in the group that always fills every silence with whatever vernacular his friends are saying that month.

Guy 1: Check out that chick.
Guy 2: Front lives up to the back, she's hot.
You: She's so baller!

Guy 1: I feel like chicken fajita today.
Guy 2: I don't know, the green peppers look a little overcooked.
You: Make sure to ask for half steak and half chicken, because that's baller!

I'm sure you're a nice guy and all ...

tuq 07-07-2007 12:30 AM

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Trey,

"Do you always post the first obvious thought that enters your head?"

Yes. That's how us ballers roll.

edfurlong 07-07-2007 12:32 AM

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I spent like four bucks on a bottle of evian in thailand because I wasn't paying attention and it was right next to the normal 35 cent bottles. [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img]

RoundGuy 07-07-2007 12:33 AM

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I'm sure you're a nice guy and all ...

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Tuq grows on you. Give him time.

Banks2334 07-07-2007 12:36 AM

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SF tap water > bottled water


http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/3...hetchhehq2.jpg

DUCY?

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Too bad all that water is headed to LA.

tuq 07-07-2007 12:37 AM

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RG,

"Tuq grows on you. Give him time."

You know, I have been told that I'm a FUNGI.

RoundGuy 07-07-2007 12:39 AM

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RG,

"Tuq grows on you. Give him time."

You know, I have been told that I'm a FUNGI.

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Hmmm. I was thinking more like -- smegma.

RichGangi 07-07-2007 11:04 AM

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I was under the impression that all big American cities had water that was similarly good.

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Next time you are in vegas, try some tap water. horrible. I never drank bottle/filtered water until I moved here.

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Seriously, I don't even like to rinse my mouth with Vegas tap water when I brush my teeth there.

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You just read my mind. Smells/tastes awful.

Evan 07-07-2007 11:48 AM

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that ish tastes way better than NYC tap water.

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I'm sure this has been said somewhere in the thread, but I just started reading, so I'll point out that NYC water always places very high (if not #1) in tap water taste tests. Now it may be a matter of what you grew up drinking, that I could understand. We have the same tap water sources as NYC where I grew up and I LOVE this tap water. It tastes much much better than bottled water to me.

Sponger. 07-07-2007 12:37 PM

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evian tastes like chalky ass

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prop bet that you can't tell the difference between evian and a few different types of popular bottled waters?

Blarg 07-07-2007 01:07 PM

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that ish tastes way better than NYC tap water.

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I'm sure this has been said somewhere in the thread, but I just started reading, so I'll point out that NYC water always places very high (if not #1) in tap water taste tests. Now it may be a matter of what you grew up drinking, that I could understand. We have the same tap water sources as NYC where I grew up and I LOVE this tap water. It tastes much much better than bottled water to me.

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The pipes in your building make a difference.

QTip 07-07-2007 01:20 PM

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evian tastes like chalky ass

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prop bet that you can't tell the difference between evian and a few different types of popular bottled waters?

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You give me Evian vs. Aquafina and I'll get 10 out 10 right for any money.

Evan 07-07-2007 01:39 PM

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that ish tastes way better than NYC tap water.

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I'm sure this has been said somewhere in the thread, but I just started reading, so I'll point out that NYC water always places very high (if not #1) in tap water taste tests. Now it may be a matter of what you grew up drinking, that I could understand. We have the same tap water sources as NYC where I grew up and I LOVE this tap water. It tastes much much better than bottled water to me.

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The pipes in your building make a difference.

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I don't know a damn thing about plumbing or whatever field would cover disagreeing with you, so I won't. I'll just say that I've never had tap water in the NYC area that didn't taste good to me. I've also never been in a building that I've known to have bad pipes. I suppose I may just be running good.

What percentage of buildings would you say have pipes that would impair the taste of water?

QTip 07-07-2007 01:40 PM

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Btw, for those of you out there that are curious, Total Dissovled Solids (TDS) have a large impact on the taste and quality of the water. The lower that number, the better the water. The EPA has a secondary standard of this set at 500 ppm. Evian measures at about 600 ppm. Aquafina measures at 2. There are some cities with some very, very high quality water in terms of TDS. Some places are even supplying their customers with reverse osmosis water now for their whole house. However, I know NYC, Seattle and some areas in the SE like Georgia, etc have some very good water. You take a place like Las Vegas, though, they have some nasty water. Hardness has a large impace on the TDS and taste of the water as well. Las Vegas city water (Indianapolis as well) is at 25 gpg hard. This is ridiculous. You can take the gpg of hardness and multiply it times 17 to get ppm in terms of TDS. So, they're at least 17 * 25 for TDS. I'm sure there are other things dissolved in the water besides calcium, limestone and so forth. TDS can be a ton of things tho ranging from just stuff like sodium, calcium, magnesium all the way to the other end of the spectrum like arsenic, mecury, lead etc. You could actually have 0 TDS water and be lethal and have 600 and be safe but taste like crap. A water like aquafina has many steps of treatment like ozonation, filtration, RO, and so forth. There are a few other waters that are excellent as well. Sam's club has a very good water. Costco's has Kirkland water, which is very good as well. There are actually a couple company's that add some minerals to their water for taste purposes. People are just used to water with stuff in it, so they like it better. A lot of it can be just what you're used to. The idea, however, of adding minerals to your water to get them for supplemental purposes is no good though. You'd just as well off as going outside and sucking on a rock for minerals. It's in an inorganic state.

I make tea and coffee with RO water vs. tap water everyday. This differences can be unreal. On most city waters (normally at about 250 ppm TDS), it looks like this.

http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/5342/9050vy7.th.jpg

The high quality water is on the right.

However, you take a Las Vegas city water and make a tea or coffee with their city water vs. a water like aquafina, you won't believe the difference. BTW, to the poster that talked about their coffee with carbon filtration vs. tap, that's true. However, it would be even more dramatic through reverse osmosis treatment. Take the water raw and through carbon, and you'll see that the TDS is not impacted. The carbon will remove the chlorine and make it taste better, but still leaves the TDS behind.

QTip 07-07-2007 01:44 PM

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What percentage of buildings would you say have pipes that would impair the taste of water?

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Some old places I go to still have galvanized plumbing, and this stuff gets crazy nasty. I just recommend replumbing and get it over with. Some well water I get on has algae and iron bacteria something fierce and it literally is just sludge laying in the pipes. Some city (although rare) will have that as well. However, mostly plumbing like copper will eventually get hardness build up in it and get nasty as well. I recently replumbed a house I just bought. The city water here is only 4 gpg hard, which is about as low as city water will usually get. I was amazed at the build up in the pipe. I brought it upstairs and asked my wife if I poured her orange juice through that pipe if she'd drink it. Obviously, she said she wouldn't. I saved a piece of the pipe.


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