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ordered from www.chapters.indigo.ca

i'm really looking forward to this, being somewhat of a mathematician myself.

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Greetings from Amazon.com.

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1 The Mathematics of Poker $19.77 1 $19.77


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Thinly veiled brag post [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img]

I'm sure amazon.co.uk will have them in time for
Christmas 2007...

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Don't be so quick to cancel. This will rapidly change back to "now shipping". And it's cheaper from Amazon than from ConJelCo. (ConJelCo does not compete against its retailers.)

Chuck

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Any more reviews or comments from those who have received it? I ordered from Amazon.ca and it should be here by Dec 22 but would love to hear more thoughts on it.

rvg

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Apparently, I couldn't cancel if I tried. August 11 was a long time coming this year.

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Should I be worried at all that I pre-ordered through conjelco, and haven't recieved it yet?

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available now from sellers on amazon.co.uk if anyone's interested.

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Thanks I am happy people are reading it! And I am sure we will get a lot of questions later. I also should thank David Sklansky for his reveiw and quote on the back of the book.


Bill Chen

Bill

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Yes, the odds are $30 to win $105. As you pointed out, it doesn't change the conclusion. I hope there are too many of these.

Bill Chen

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Hi Bill:

I've only read the first 60 pages, so I don't have any comments on the material yet. But it is extremely well written.

Best wishes,
Mason

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I just got an e-mail from a certain online bookdeller saying my copy has shipped... finally... I think I ordered it in March.

Now if I can ever get my copy of Daniel Negraneau's book...

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Irony!

And I'm in the same boat regarding preordering from Conjelco and not having received it yet. Does Conjelco notify when they ship on preorders?

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Yes, the odds are $30 to win $105. As you pointed out, it doesn't change the conclusion. I hope there are too many of these.

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I believe you meant to say: "I hope there aren't too many of these."

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hopefully i should be getting this today. /pray

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just previewed my Amazon Delivery Estimate (I ordered it on Nov. 30th with 7 other poker books [2 Ray Zee, 2 Sklansky, 3 Malmuth, 1 Hilger and 1 Navarro])

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I think you might need a more basic maths book before you read this one.

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I think you might need a more basic maths book before you read this one.

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Not necessarily.

# Seven Card Stud for Advanced Players by David Sklansky, Mason Malmuth, and Ray Zee
# Gambling Theory and Other Topics by Mason Malmuth
# Theory of Poker by David Sklansky
# High-Low Split Poker, Seven Card Stud and Omaha Eight or Better for Advanced Players by Ray Zee
# Poker Essays by Mason Malmuth
# One book each by Hilger and Navarro

Seven books, 2 Ray Zee, 2 Sklansky, 3 Malmuth, 1 Hilger, 1 Navarro.

Don't worry, I still think you're really smart, though.

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what seller did you order from? the book depository told me i can expect it in 4-5 days.

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I got the book yesterday from Conjelco but could only start it today. I'm very impressed with the layout and presentation, along with the small amount of content I've read so far.

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Amazon just shipped mine.

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I got my book on Monday, I preordered on Conjelco.

It looks great. My plan is to work one chapter a day, today is Chapter 4.

Don

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rvg

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I got my copy on Weds. and have been slowly working my way through it. I am happy to say that it is very well written in clean, straight-forward prose. I was more than a little relieved, because I've sat at poker tables where Bill and Jerrod were discussing math, and couldn't understand a word they were saying. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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Top book. Still thinking about how to express why.
I have no idea if it will be a popular book but I feel I will be rereading it constantly for months. Some ideas for building good models for simulations, great demonstrations of the counter-intuitive nature of a lot of game decisions, and a nice framework to start thinking about poker strategies from a 'scientific' viewpoint.
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Greetings from Amazon.com.

We thought you'd like to know that we shipped your items, and that this
completes your order.

1 The Mathematics of Poker $19.77 1 $19.77


Shipped via US Priority (estimated arrival date: 12-December-2006).

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Mine showed up today, so hopefully the rest of ya'll Amazon-US folks will get yours soon.

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That seems kind of confrontational; I thought his comment was pretty funny. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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What is the best way for me to get it asap in Australia??

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I would guess Amazon. I received this notice this morning. I'm Happy. Interestingly enough it comes from Amazon International Sales. My arrival date is December 13 so it must be shipping tomorrow AM.
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Hello from Amazon.com.

We are pleased to report that the following item will ship
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William Chen, Jerrod Ankenman "The Mathematics of Poker"
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Thanks for the compliment, as you know we did take our time with it.

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Hey Guys, just recieved my copy of Mathematics of Poker, Not a math geek, although I could handle some of the equations. Just wondering, could someone recommend a calculator which would cover all of the various functions and equations outlined in the book. (My thoughts were any calculator which could handle Algebra I, II, Trig Functions. etc. I want to hammer away at the equations to fully understand the mathematical implications: Could the Authors offer a Recommendation in this area. P.S. Fantastic Book, I hope it increases all our collective abilites on the tables.

Psion.

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You're not a math geek but you're asking someone to recommend you a calculator?

JK, I guess I'm screwed with my TI-83.

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haven't ordered the book yet. I probably will, but this sure does scare me.

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Just wondering, could someone recommend a calculator which would cover all of the various functions and equations outlined in the book. (My thoughts were any calculator which could handle Algebra I, II, Trig Functions. etc. I want to hammer away at the equations to fully understand the mathematical implications

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I believe almost any graphing calculator should be able to handle Algebra I, Algebra II, and trigonometry. I personally like the TI-85, but you might just want to go to an office store (e.g., Staples) or a department store and check out what they have.

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If you download xp power toys (I believe I got mine on cnet.com, but googling for it should find it - it's freeware), there's a pretty good calculator that comes with it that I use when I don't feel like whipping out my 85, or if I'm doing homework and need multiple calculators for some reason.

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I ordered from Conjelco and got it 4 days later.Book is written exactly like a text book
Not the easiest reading, but they expalin thing well.
If you like the slkanski approach to poker you will love this book.

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i should be getting this today! i'm so excited!

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Bill,

Seeing as your a Pokerstars sponsored player any chance of you pushing them to put into the VIP store?

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Seeing as your a Pokerstars sponsored player any chance of you pushing them to put into the VIP store?

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Just got the book 5 minutes ago, and I'd like to say that I've never been as excited to delve into a poker book as I am to get into this one.

To be honest, I was a bit skeptical that it was going to deliver because other books that have been hyped as "mathematical" approaches to the game (Theory of Poker) fell far short of expectations. But this looks like the real deal, hopefully I'm not disappointed.

Incidentally, I wouldn't want to scare somebody without a strong mathematical background. The equations in the book like intimidating, but most of them are just algebra with a couple natural logs thrown in there. I wouldn't think you'd need a strong mathematical background (to be honest, mine's not that great itself) to get through the book.

Anybody who likes this game-theoretic approach to the game should also check out the stuff from the University of Alberta.