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Jbrochu 12-21-2006 03:42 PM

Re: The Mathematics of Poker
 
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There are lots of numbers involved in math. [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

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Almost all of them are.

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SamPoket 12-22-2006 08:18 AM

Re: The Mathematics of Poker
 
I have a problem on page 78

<X check, Y check> = (15/45)(0$) + (30/45)(29/44)($300-$100)
= 65.15

It's not 87.9 ???

Shandrax 12-22-2006 09:44 AM

Re: The Mathematics of Poker
 
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For me it seems to spew around with numbers too much, can you give me a quick summary of it`s contents?

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I have ordered the book (twice already, since the guys at Amazon are a bunch of donkeys). Numbers alone isn't what I am looking for. I am looking for answers. I hope this book provides answers to non-trivial questions and/or shows methods how to solve problems.

Actually I don't expect this book to be similar to Nesmith Ankeny's phenomenal book on 5 Card Draw, but I would love to see it discuss methods to create something similar.

bate_nasko 12-22-2006 12:15 PM

Re: The Mathematics of Poker
 
252 posts in this thread and still no review. C'mon people, I am desparately waiting on sb to give short review or comment a little more extensively. I can't wait to get my hands on this book but I am in friggin Bulgaria, so who knows when and how this is going to happen...

So, pretty please - review? Anyone?

A.Nironen 12-22-2006 06:03 PM

Re: The Mathematics of Poker
 
A question to Bill Chen. In "Jam or Fold Tables" for attacker (i.e. small blind) with KT offsuit strategy is "JAM" meaning SB should push with stack/BB ratio 50 or less. I've made some calculations using linear programming method and got another results:

stack/BB KTo % jam
50 41.08%
49 0.00%
48 0.00%
47 8.73%
46 100.00%
45 83.50%
44 100.00%
43 6.25%
42 21.70%
41 19.34%
40 20.33%
39 43.36%
38 38.07%
37 32.53%
36- 100.00%

Comments?

Andrzej Nironen

captainwan 12-23-2006 07:56 AM

Re: The Mathematics of Poker
 
On page 268, the authors propose a preflop strategy of raising each time we enter the pot and to bet from a minimum a 2BB 5-6 off the button and 3BB on the button with an adequate distribution of hands that have to be defined.

I would like to know if the authors have already used this strategy with success playing online.

BillChen 12-23-2006 07:47 PM

Re: The Mathematics of Poker
 
Yes, without going into numbers we've been much more successful than we thought we would be, although much of the success is over thousands of NL-multis. I don't think simply making lots of money proves what we are doing is correct though since a lot of the NL play is quite weak. There are probably many unsound opening strategies that would work.

*TT* 12-24-2006 01:30 AM

Re: The Mathematics of Poker
 
Bill:

I haven't had the opportunity to fawn over you since the WSOP, as you already know I am the president of the Bill Chen fan club. I haven't picked up the book yet, but I hope that you have left signed copies with Gamblers Book Club or the Gamblers General Store for me to buy myself as a new years present [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Would love to discuss Badugi math with you sometime soon, but I'll wait till I am done with your book before bugging you.

TT [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] - aka Bill Chen Fanboy #1

Oct0puz 12-24-2006 06:34 AM

Re: The Mathematics of Poker
 
P.48:
<B,call> = p(A has nuts)(-1) + p(A has a bluff)(+5)
<B,call> = (0.2)(-1) + (5)x

Shouldn't it be:
<B,call> = p(A has nuts)(-1) + p(A has a bluff)(+5)
<B,call> = (1-x)(-1) + (5)x

curious123 12-24-2006 06:11 PM

Re: The Mathematics of Poker
 
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Bill:
I am the president of the Bill Chen fan club...I haven't picked up the book yet

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lol

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- aka Bill Chen Fanboy #1,126

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FYP.


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