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As you may have guessed, I am a regular poster here. I did not want my poster ID to become associated with this issue.


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Time for guess who this is.

I submit the first candidate:

ChristinaB

Re: why boobs?
 

Interesting. I disagree, but the perspective is interesting.

OTOH, I hope this nice young lady can manage to avoid disfiguring herself for the sake of the fact that we are at war with Eastasia, and have always been at war with Eastasia.

You know?

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i can't believe there's all these serious replies for someone's first post that came to a poker message board for breast advice.....


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As you may have guessed, I am a regular poster here. I did not want my poster ID to become associated with this issue.

I am reading your replies, and considering both what is being said, and who is saying it.

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Oh goodie, another quiz: guess the poster's real identity!

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My guess is Felicia Lee.

cuse boobs are cool -NM-
 

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very magnanamous of you, Mr. Zee, but that ain't life. Any time you hear a woman say she just wishes guys would like them for who they are on the inside they're full of crap, and guys are little better.
Ask ANY woman who she'd rather be like, Maya Angelou, or Julia Roberts, who do you think they'd pick?
Ask ANY woman who they'd rather be WITH, Ghandi or Evan Marriott( Joe Millionaire), and who do you think they'd pick?

And who says getting yer boobs done changes who you are? Maybe a boob job will give her confidence, and make her feel less intimidated around men OR other women.
It's a superficial world we live in. My only recommendation is to get proportionate boobs, or at the very least, boobs that aren't so big they look fake from a mile away.

P.S. Daliwoman is "enhanced". She looks great, they don't look fake, and she immediately felt better about herself after getting them.

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I have a very close friend that had a BA and she couldn't be happier. She appears more confident and self assured, but she was in her early 30s and married.

I guess I sit on the side of the fence that says wanting to change/enhance your appearance is normal and if you can afford to do and think that it would help your self confidence, then go for it.

I also agree that men just like boobs. Size is rarely an issue.

Good luck.

-Mike

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What do you all suppose the chances are that this is just some joker having a good time with us all?

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My guess is Felicia Lee.

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Then you don't know a thing about me.

For one, I am 35, not 19 and have been happily married for many years. Two, I am about the most masculine straight woman you'd ever meet. Three, I couldn't give a crap what anyone thinks of me, or the way I look. I'd never alter anything for anyone else, I'd only do it for me, and boobs are not something I'd ever even consider. Four, I've never started a thread in a poker discussion group that is so completely off-topic as this, and I never would. The only reason I'm even commenting is because it is so utterly ridiculous.

Felicia [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
www.felicialee.net

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i have really big boobs and believe me it's just not all that...

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No doubt: GrannyMae

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As others stated, there are lots of guys who prefer small ones, others who favour bigger ones and others who don´t really care. I think your problem is, that you feel burdend with what mother nature gave you. What about talking with your mother? I bet your mother has small boobs, too, maybe she can give you some selfconfidence. And what about your friends? Guess not all of them have big breasts. Furthermore: Those who do have don´t like them lots of times neither. Fact is: Lots of women whish they had other sizes.

I woulnd´t recommend making the BA, but if so, think about it at least twice. And if you finally decide to do it, it´s OK too.

Best regards

Martin Aigner

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Husker'66

He has a history of fishing expeditions like this.

LazyMeatBall is another candidate

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What's your number?

~D

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Good grief, I can't believe how many people are taking this post seriously.

I'm sure there are a million little 19 year-old girls out there who want to discuss there breasts with a bunch of poker players.

Dream on...

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Whether the original poster was legit or not, this is a legitimate issue. Some thoughts:

Breast implants are symptomatic of a fundamental problem that so many young women today have, for some reason - low self-esteem. They're not comfortable in their own skin. They're not happy with the way God made them. Implants are also symptomatic of another fundamental problem in our society in general: when confronted with a problem, we want the easy solution, even if that is not necessarily the best solution. I don't like the way my body looks. The right solution would be for me to change my lifestyle habits - diet, exercise, etc. But that's too hard! I'd rather pay a doctor to give me breast implants. It's sad, really. Phony breasts for phony people.

I'm not saying that people who want to get implants shouldn't get them. By all means, whatever makes you happy. My point is that one shouldn't need the perfect set of boobies to be happy. That's the problem. As a society, we are too fixated on physical appearance. I realize that there are biological reasons for this, and that people are always going to be superficial on some level. I just think our culture goes way over the top, and the growing popularity of breast implants is symptomatic of that.

It's none of my business so long as it does not impact me. But to the extent that breast implants could eventually impact the general physical health of our society, which I'll grant is a big unknown at this point, it becomes everyone's business. When the physical health of society is compromised, everyone pays. It may pain hardcore Libertarians to hear this, but we already have socialized medicine. It's simply run in the private sector by insurance companies (which I'll grant you is preferable to the government running it). Nonetheless, health insurance is a form of socialism. You want to know what's driving health insurance costs up? That's easy. Poor general health. Period. Could breast implants be part of that problem? To the extent that there might be adverse long-term effects associated with implants, sure.

I still recognize that it is a personal choice, just as smoking versus not smoking is a personal choice and wearing a seat belt versus not wearing a seat belt should still be a personal choice. Unfortunately, when enough people make bad personal choices, sometimes everyone suffers - even those who have made different (arguably better) choices.

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for crying out loud- if the poster wishes to remain anomynous, then let her. If its a guy who started this thread for his own amusment, then who cares?

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I tend to disagree with you often rushmore, but i definately respect your ability to simply write "interesting perspective, but i disagree"
on to the issue at hand.
Fortunately the issue is not you or I would date "flatchested" with or without breast implants. As i see it, and as bernie pointed out in the first half of his post, the issue is why she is getting them. If she is getting them so that other people will like her, i agree it will likely be a disaster, her self esteem will be tied to haveing breasts and she will likely continue to feel inadequete around more attractive woman. OTOH if she is getting them to release anxiety about herself so that she can feel more comfortable in social situations (we are social creatures) then i think that they could be beneficial to her.
As for disfiguring herself, there is a lot of grey area there. Braces, lipstick, shaving one's legs- these are all ways that american women alter their apperence for cosmetics sake (yes i know that braces sometimes are used to prevent actual damage). Wouldyou date a woman whose teeth were bleached? All i am trying to do is to point out that wherever you draw the line it will be fairly arbetrary, and using words like "disfigured" makes it sound like she is harming herself, and that it ought to be obvious to everyone.
A little sidenote on being at war with eastasia- i think it was an interesting choice of literature to quote since the women in that book were restricted from using makeup, perfume and i am guessing cosmetic surgery would be out the window as well, in an effort to restrict individuality. Though there are some paralells between the perception in our society that you must conform, the simple fact is that jsut having the choice makes all the difference.

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i thought felicia at first, then remembered... she's not 19 =(

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I have never been able to get close to a boy and that is largely because of my lack of breasts.

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No way. It's because you think about 'em too much.

There's another cruel possibility to bring up here: maybe you're not that hot, breasts or no breasts. The truth is, women with big breasts attract men to themselves whether they are good looking or not. Men are fascinated by breasts (for whatever reason, I don't care). So if you think you're ugly and want to attract men who will love you only for your breasts, go ahead and get implants.

I've dated many women with negligible frontal assets and done so happily. But they were all great-looking. (Ok, some of them weren't, but they weren't total hags.)

I'm not saying you're ugly. I think you're probably like me, part of the vast majority of people who have their good qualities but are not astonishing to look it. I think I'm a handsome guy in the right light and if I haven't had too much to eat or drink. You're probably a nice looking girl under some if not all circumstances, and you just have to find someone to appreciate your good qualities. I suspect you are painfully shy, introverted, or fearful of intimacy. Again, these are common qualities and nothing to be ashamed of.

If you really want to get close to a boy, any boy, go to a Star Trek convention dressed up like Deanna Troi. If you want to have a meaningful and lasting relationship (sounds like you do) you've got to resolve your own issues, not get big boobs. The only time I think a woman is getting implants for purely social reasons is if she's a stripper, and even then I kind of doubt it.

NT

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The only reason I'm even commenting is because it is so utterly ridiculous.

Which is the reason why I said it. I think most of what you just wrote has been said practically verbatim in old posts. With the same seriousness, I could have just as easily said Mason Malmuth.

Here. Let me rephrase:

My guess is Felicia Lee [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

Cup

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On the nontrivial chance that this is legitimate, I will respond.

You already said getting them will not cure your esteem issues, which is a pretty good reason NOT to get them right now. I think the psychological things should be your first priority.

Most guys who say that looks don't matter are lying. That said, they probably don't matter as much as you think. Looks DO matter, but in most cases, looks are basically a foot in the door, and sometimes not even that. They can't carry a relationship for any length of time. So maybe keep that in mind too.

Good luck with your decision.

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The only reason I'm even commenting is because it is so utterly ridiculous.

Which is the reason why I said it. I think most of what you just wrote has been said practically verbatim in old posts. With the same seriousness, I could have just as easily said Mason Malmuth.

Here. Let me rephrase:

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Cup

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Aaaah. I didn't even get the joke. I thought you'd lost your mind! [img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img]

Felicia [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
www.felicialee.net

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It is an absolute certainty that you will feel better about yourself if you get implants. I haven't read all the previous posts (so someone may have mentioned this already) but one of the main reasons why people get implants is because looking better makes them feel better about themselves. It's the same as going to the gym to lose some weight, putting on makeup or buying nice clothes. If there's anything you can do to improve yourself, you should do it! Plus I think the social stigma is slowly fading away, similar to homosexuality.

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umm, are you serious?

what percentage of men do you think like big breasted women?

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Just to set the record straight, I'm not considering this procedure.

MM

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You'd be too late anyway:

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/07...1.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

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I think we should help out here by selecting the look we think would be best for Flat Chested. Review these photos and post the subject number you would choose.

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Sweet, a new home page.

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There is no way that flatchested should consider BA because some men like larger breasts, and there is no way she should not get it done because some men perfer smaller breasts. She should only get it done to feel better about herself, which is different about feeling better about herslef ecause someone likes her because of her new breasts. This is not a subtle difference.

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You also need to consider how this will affect your career. I know that if I was a woman and had large breasts I'd probably spend most of my time at home fondling them and wouldn't get much work done. This might not be so much of a problem with smaller breasts - but I'm no expert on this.

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I think we'e saying a lot of the same things here.

I merely extended the point out to reflect the adverse effect that her action would have on my (and others like me) perception of her, which is a fairly ironic result, given her initial motivation.

As for Eastasia, I actually considered the near-contradiction as I was writing it, yet followed through anyway, as the point was more about propaganda than about personal freedom.

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As in, if you're not happy with your 32B, then you won't be happy with those either.

If you're with a specific guy who likes you, but also likes big boobs, then go ahead.

But IF: you're insecure and self-conscious and a downer to be around with your small boobs, you'll be the same with the big ones.

They're an enhancement; but they won't make a "bad" you "good". They'll make a great "you" even greater.

That being said, the bigger the better, but touching fake ones is really gross. They're hard and artificial. Nice to look at, but the pleasure ends there.

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On the off chance this is a serious post...

I'll throw my vote in for staying the way you are. Find someone who likes you for YOU. I was engaged to a girl who was somewhat flat-chested and we ended up breaking up partly due to this issue. She wanted to get a BA but wouldn't listen to me when I told her I liked her just the way she was. She lacked any kind of self-confidence which caused me huge problems. If any girl walked by and even noticed she was there, I would get chewed out because I was "checking her out". If I was changing channels on the TV and happened to pause too long on one channel, I would get chewed out for "pausing to check out some woman". This obviously caused us to have too many arguments and things went downhill from there.

So I repeat, find someone who likes you the way you are. if you have any of the self-confidence issues I mentioned above, then use the money to find a shrink. There is someone out there for you.

Also, 19 is still very young. Why are you in such a hurry?

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Flat,

Go fix those tiny things and become a woman. The guys that say don't are idealistic dreamers. When a guy bends you over in front of a mirror he wants to see thoses babies slapping together.

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Don't listen to these guys. Just do what you want to do.

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Time for guess who this is.

I submit the first candidate:

ChristinaB


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It could be one (or both) of the Olson twins
Olson twins

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then you will attract the kind of person wanting you for sex rather than your inward looks. stay natural and you wont regret it unless you want to be what you are not. accept yourself for what you are and you can be happy. the other way you wont.

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That make me think about me , when I was in vegas the day before the main event of the WSOP , I was in a sattelite , that was costing me allreaddy 1025$ ! &amp; they were giving a seat to the top 27 , &amp; were down to around 70 . Then I realize , if I win the seat &amp; win the big tournement after , I ' ll be multi-millionnaire . Then I will attract the kind of person wanting me for my money rather than my inward look. So I push third of my stck in pot preflop with no-pair , &amp; an asian guy re-raise all-in , &amp; I quickly call him puting like 96% total of my chips in the pot ( I still have no pair ) . I could have made a BIG PAIR with my AK , but I din't &amp; his JJ held up !

- jpp

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As with others, on the off-chance this is a legit post...

As a psychologist, I usually recommend against such procedures. You will get more attention, but self-esteem must be internally driven rather than externally. Learn to be happy with yourself and feel good about yourself. As to finding a mate, not to worry. We menfolk are mighty attracted to breasts, but we marry the woman, not the boobs.

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Just to set the record straight, I'm not considering this procedure.

MM

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Reconsider.... a little extra "distraction" at the table could be a +EV move for you. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]