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teamdonkey 11-11-2006 10:06 PM

Re: You are the pollster: 0-Loss vs. 1-Loss Debate
 
Iggy - i died a little that day. thanks for bringing it up

jstnrgrs 11-11-2006 10:07 PM

Re: You are the pollster: 0-Loss vs. 1-Loss Debate
 
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It is my goal for the rest of the season to make people realize that Texas is not the best of the 1 loss teams, because Texas should be 8-2.

WHY DOES EVERYONE FORGET ABOUT THE NEBRASKA GAME!

Texas was DONE, GAME OVER, DRIVE HOME SAFELY.

With just under 2 minutes left, Nebraska a 1 point lead and Texas no timeouts left, here's what happened since so many people seem to forget :

3rd and 3 at NEB 36
Zac Taylor pass complete to Terrence Nunn for 9 yards, fumbled at the Neb 45, forced by Aaron Ross, recovered by Marcus Griffin at the Neb 45, tackled by Aaron Ross.

Had this [censored] Nunn not fumbled the ball, the game was over. The game was under 2 minutes left, Nebraska got a first down on the above play, and Texas didn't have a timeout left.

WHY IS TEXAS ONE OF THE BEST 1 LOSS TEAMS?!?!?!?!?! You got to be freakin kidding me.

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So you're saying that wins in which you take advantage on turnovers shouldn't count?

ohkanada 11-11-2006 10:07 PM

Re: You are the pollster: 0-Loss vs. 1-Loss Debate
 
And who forced the fumble? Oh yeah, the Longhorns did. Longhorns did what they needed to do. Then they drove the ball into the wind and snow and brought in a guy who had never kicked in College before who got the winning field goal.

Ken

ridonkulous 11-11-2006 10:07 PM

Re: You are the pollster: 0-Loss vs. 1-Loss Debate
 
Iggy, they have blown out Rice, North Texas and Sam Houston State. What else do they need to do?

Needle77 11-11-2006 10:09 PM

Re: You are the pollster: 0-Loss vs. 1-Loss Debate
 
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It is my goal for the rest of the season to make people realize that Texas is not the best of the 1 loss teams, because Texas should be 8-2.

WHY DOES EVERYONE FORGET ABOUT THE NEBRASKA GAME!

Texas was DONE, GAME OVER, DRIVE HOME SAFELY.

With just under 2 minutes left, Nebraska a 1 point lead and Texas no timeouts left, here's what happened since so many people seem to forget :

3rd and 3 at NEB 36
Zac Taylor pass complete to Terrence Nunn for 9 yards, fumbled at the Neb 45, forced by Aaron Ross, recovered by Marcus Griffin at the Neb 45, tackled by Aaron Ross.

Had this [censored] Nunn not fumbled the ball, the game was over. The game was under 2 minutes left, Nebraska got a first down on the above play, and Texas didn't have a timeout left.

WHY IS TEXAS ONE OF THE BEST 1 LOSS TEAMS?!?!?!?!?! You got to be freakin kidding me.

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So you're saying that wins in which you take advantage on turnovers shouldn't count?

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No I think he was saying they aren't the best 1 loss team.

ridonkulous 11-11-2006 10:12 PM

Re: You are the pollster: 0-Loss vs. 1-Loss Debate
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
It is my goal for the rest of the season to make people realize that Texas is not the best of the 1 loss teams, because Texas should be 8-2.

WHY DOES EVERYONE FORGET ABOUT THE NEBRASKA GAME!

Texas was DONE, GAME OVER, DRIVE HOME SAFELY.

With just under 2 minutes left, Nebraska a 1 point lead and Texas no timeouts left, here's what happened since so many people seem to forget :

3rd and 3 at NEB 36
Zac Taylor pass complete to Terrence Nunn for 9 yards, fumbled at the Neb 45, forced by Aaron Ross, recovered by Marcus Griffin at the Neb 45, tackled by Aaron Ross.

Had this [censored] Nunn not fumbled the ball, the game was over. The game was under 2 minutes left, Nebraska got a first down on the above play, and Texas didn't have a timeout left.

WHY IS TEXAS ONE OF THE BEST 1 LOSS TEAMS?!?!?!?!?! You got to be freakin kidding me.

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So you're saying that wins in which you take advantage on turnovers shouldn't count?

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They count for every team but Notre Dame.

jstnrgrs 11-11-2006 10:15 PM

Re: You are the pollster: 0-Loss vs. 1-Loss Debate
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
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It is my goal for the rest of the season to make people realize that Texas is not the best of the 1 loss teams, because Texas should be 8-2.

WHY DOES EVERYONE FORGET ABOUT THE NEBRASKA GAME!

Texas was DONE, GAME OVER, DRIVE HOME SAFELY.

With just under 2 minutes left, Nebraska a 1 point lead and Texas no timeouts left, here's what happened since so many people seem to forget :

3rd and 3 at NEB 36
Zac Taylor pass complete to Terrence Nunn for 9 yards, fumbled at the Neb 45, forced by Aaron Ross, recovered by Marcus Griffin at the Neb 45, tackled by Aaron Ross.

Had this [censored] Nunn not fumbled the ball, the game was over. The game was under 2 minutes left, Nebraska got a first down on the above play, and Texas didn't have a timeout left.

WHY IS TEXAS ONE OF THE BEST 1 LOSS TEAMS?!?!?!?!?! You got to be freakin kidding me.

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So you're saying that wins in which you take advantage on turnovers shouldn't count?

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No I think he was saying they aren't the best 1 loss team.

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He said that they aren't the best 1-loss team because they "should've" had 2 losses. Well, just because you take advantage of a turnover to win doesn't mean you "should've" lost.

MyTurn2Raise 11-11-2006 10:18 PM

Re: You are the pollster: 0-Loss vs. 1-Loss Debate
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
It is my goal for the rest of the season to make people realize that Texas is not the best of the 1 loss teams, because Texas should be 8-2.

WHY DOES EVERYONE FORGET ABOUT THE NEBRASKA GAME!

Texas was DONE, GAME OVER, DRIVE HOME SAFELY.

With just under 2 minutes left, Nebraska a 1 point lead and Texas no timeouts left, here's what happened since so many people seem to forget :

3rd and 3 at NEB 36
Zac Taylor pass complete to Terrence Nunn for 9 yards, fumbled at the Neb 45, forced by Aaron Ross, recovered by Marcus Griffin at the Neb 45, tackled by Aaron Ross.

Had this [censored] Nunn not fumbled the ball, the game was over. The game was under 2 minutes left, Nebraska got a first down on the above play, and Texas didn't have a timeout left.

WHY IS TEXAS ONE OF THE BEST 1 LOSS TEAMS?!?!?!?!?! You got to be freakin kidding me.

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So you're saying that wins in which you take advantage on turnovers shouldn't count?

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No I think he was saying they aren't the best 1 loss team.

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He said that they aren't the best 1-loss team because they "should've" had 2 losses. Well, just because you take advantage of a turnover to win doesn't mean you "should've" lost.

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Nebraska should've never been in that position verse Texas. The early bounces in that game went the Huskers way. Texas outplayed them much more than the 2 point differential would suggest IIRC.

IggyWH 11-11-2006 10:20 PM

Re: You are the pollster: 0-Loss vs. 1-Loss Debate
 
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So you're saying that wins in which you take advantage on turnovers shouldn't count?

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To me, there's a HUGE difference between taking advantage on turnover during a game and getting a gift when the game should be over.

IggyWH 11-11-2006 10:22 PM

Re: You are the pollster: 0-Loss vs. 1-Loss Debate
 
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And who forced the fumble? Oh yeah, the Longhorns did. Longhorns did what they needed to do. Then they drove the ball into the wind and snow and brought in a guy who had never kicked in College before who got the winning field goal.

Ken

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44p85smYLZI

That video sucks but that's the best I could find. It appears to me that Nunn dropped it instead of Texas really causing it. Looks like he was scared of the hit and just let the ball go, like he forgot he was carrying a football.

It doesn't matter though. As much as I want to get fired up, I just know Texas will end up playing in the NC game.

Needle77 11-11-2006 10:25 PM

Re: You are the pollster: 0-Loss vs. 1-Loss Debate
 
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It doesn't matter though. As much as I want to get fired up, I just know Texas will end up playing in the NC game.

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I think the Wildcats would have to argue with you about that.

IggyWH 11-11-2006 10:30 PM

Re: You are the pollster: 0-Loss vs. 1-Loss Debate
 
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It doesn't matter though. As much as I want to get fired up, I just know Texas will end up playing in the NC game.

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I think the Wildcats would have to argue with you about that.

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I would be so happy if they do. I'm not getting the game though [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

lastchance 11-11-2006 10:38 PM

Re: You are the pollster: 0-Loss vs. 1-Loss Debate
 
Teams still left in the NC debate:
SEC:
Florida
Arkansas

Big 12:
Texas

Big Ten:
OSU
Michigan
Wisconsin?

Big East:
Rutgers (Louisville/WVU?)

Pac-10:
USC

Independents:
Notre Dame

Wow. Damn @ this list. Giant, giant cluster [censored].

mmbt0ne 11-11-2006 10:50 PM

Re: You are the pollster: 0-Loss vs. 1-Loss Debate
 
lc,

One of the SEC teams will be out by default.
Ditto for Big10 (and Wisconsin does not deserve to be mentioned, sorry all)
Only one of USC/ND survives at best
Texas is looking to be in trouble

The cluster will thin itself out

MyTurn2Raise 11-11-2006 10:54 PM

Re: You are the pollster: 0-Loss vs. 1-Loss Debate
 
SEC is trying to play itself out of an atlarge

ohkanada 11-11-2006 10:55 PM

Re: You are the pollster: 0-Loss vs. 1-Loss Debate
 
Well I saw the game on TV, and he didn't drop it. It was knocked out of his hands by the Horns.

Ken

lastchance 11-11-2006 11:06 PM

Re: You are the pollster: 0-Loss vs. 1-Loss Debate
 
That still leaves a OSU/Michigan, possibly Rutgers, USC/ND, a SEC team, and Texas.

I think that's a fairly big clusterfuck.

jstnrgrs 11-11-2006 11:19 PM

Re: You are the pollster: 0-Loss vs. 1-Loss Debate
 
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So you're saying that wins in which you take advantage on turnovers shouldn't count?

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To me, there's a HUGE difference between taking advantage on turnover during a game and getting a gift when the game should be over.

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So you are saying that if you take advantage of a late mistake by an opponent in winning the game, it shouldn't count? A win is a win. Even if you are one who likes to consider MOV, this was still a Texas win. It was completly ligit.

It is easy to go back through close games and say if this or that hadn't happened, the result would have been diferent. You could do this with many teams. We need to consider what did happen, and what happened was Texas won.

IggyWH 11-11-2006 11:28 PM

Re: You are the pollster: 0-Loss vs. 1-Loss Debate
 
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So you are saying that if you take advantage of a late mistake by an opponent in winning the game, it shouldn't count? A win is a win. Even if you are one who likes to consider MOV, this was still a Texas win. It was completly ligit.

It is easy to go back through close games and say if this or that hadn't happened, the result would have been diferent. You could do this with many teams. We need to consider what did happen, and what happened was Texas won.

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It's sort of useless to agrue about this now, because my points to back me up are falling (ie Auburn).

I hated how Texas was considered the best 1 loss team by the polls when they got a gift at Nebraska. Considering what Auburn, Florida, Cal have done lately, it sort of kills the thunder I had.

MyTurn2Raise 11-11-2006 11:29 PM

Re: You are the pollster: 0-Loss vs. 1-Loss Debate
 
Texas is solving your dilemma for you

ridonkulous 11-11-2006 11:30 PM

Re: You are the pollster: 0-Loss vs. 1-Loss Debate
 
if K-State hangs on here, this is a dream weekend for Rutgers.

IggyWH 11-11-2006 11:33 PM

Re: You are the pollster: 0-Loss vs. 1-Loss Debate
 
For full disclosure, I should add one of my best friends is from Houston and loves Texas. He never shuts up about them, so I'm always cheering for bad things to happen to Texas.

IggyWH 11-11-2006 11:36 PM

Re: You are the pollster: 0-Loss vs. 1-Loss Debate
 
42-21? Is my LiveCast correct? PLEASE TELL ME SO!

ridonkulous 11-11-2006 11:37 PM

Re: You are the pollster: 0-Loss vs. 1-Loss Debate
 
yes

Dudd 11-11-2006 11:37 PM

Re: You are the pollster: 0-Loss vs. 1-Loss Debate
 
It's worse than the score, 2 Texas scores have come on blocked punts inside the 10. They can't do a thing without Colt, and their secondary is pathetic.

And right after I say this, they have a prolonged drive for a td.

MyTurn2Raise 11-11-2006 11:38 PM

Re: You are the pollster: 0-Loss vs. 1-Loss Debate
 
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42-21? Is my LiveCast correct? PLEASE TELL ME SO!

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it is correct.....a meltdown of epic proportions

Texas started the 2nd half with a blocked punt and got a td. They stop K ST right after and get the ball in great shape. They have the ball inside the 20 and fumble. A couple of deep passes and trick plays...td K St. K st blocks a punt...td K st. Texas fumbles right away. TD K ST. AMAZING!!!!!!!!

mmbt0ne 11-11-2006 11:52 PM

Re: You are the pollster: 0-Loss vs. 1-Loss Debate
 
iggy,

do you run www.jewshit.com or do you simply link to a picture there?

IggyWH 11-12-2006 12:14 AM

Re: You are the pollster: 0-Loss vs. 1-Loss Debate
 
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iggy,

do you run www.jewshit.com or do you simply link to a picture there?

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It's mine. It's a site about friends but it's really not used anymore. I still have years left on the hosting though so use it for my pictures instead of bothing with free services.


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