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Big_Jim 09-16-2006 06:54 PM

Re: MINRAIZIN\'! : $3/$6 6-Max
 
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Which river cards are you betting?

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Non-Spade A, T, maybe a total blank, sometimes, but rarely.

Big_Jim 09-16-2006 06:56 PM

Re: MINRAIZIN\'! : $3/$6 6-Max
 
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problem is, do you ever do this with 97 or a set or anything?

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Rarely, and usually only after using his play a few times.

Whether or not it goes to showdown, the same impression is made.

DLizzle 09-16-2006 07:01 PM

Re: MINRAIZIN\'! : $3/$6 6-Max
 
i use this play when my opponent has a big stack to try to get to showdown, I'm just interested in why you don't just push in here when his stack is small. Am I giving free money to small stacks?

aceswild83 09-16-2006 07:19 PM

Re: MINRAIZIN\'! : $3/$6 6-Max
 
so you raise to limit your loss when behind and to stop a bluff on the river that you feel it would be -ev to call. you might also get some more money out of a weaker made hand this way if we assume he will not vbet river with a worse hand and you will be tempted to take the free showdown. you also make a draw put in more money as a dog which makes you money even though it is right for him to call. is this correct?

you lose some when he is on a semibluff and would have bluffed a blank river for more than 100. you save some when he would have vbet a better hand then yours on a blank river. or if you would have folded to a bluff on the river you now win the pot + 100 instead.

if you thought you could play the river better than him then a call looks better I think. the problem ofc is that any K,Q,J,9,7 is going to make it difficult to make the right decision esp since you only have a few hands on villain and can't know how he will react to different river cards.

you could raise more to make it incorrect for him to call with a draw. the problem is that if he calls anyway it will only be a small mistake but if he has you beat it will have been a big mistake on your part.

If your raise won't make him slowdown with a worse hand then obv it's no good but if you think he will make it easy for you then i can't really see anything wrong with it.

soah 09-16-2006 07:27 PM

Re: MINRAIZIN\'! : $3/$6 6-Max
 
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I don't mind this, though with his stack I probably just push it in instead of minraising. If he pushes you're calling right?

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OMG NO

btw Big Jim - Nice job with the stealth-edit of the OP. =P

Big_Jim 09-16-2006 07:30 PM

Re: MINRAIZIN\'! : $3/$6 6-Max
 
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I'm just interested in why you don't just push in here when his stack is small.

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Villian started the hand with over 90BBs, I wouldn't say that he's short.

Big_Jim 09-16-2006 07:46 PM

Re: MINRAIZIN\'! : $3/$6 6-Max
 
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i prefer to call all the way down regardless of river though....imo he has something like JT or 99 or 77 a lot here

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How big a river bet are you calling?

How often do you expect a mostly-unknown to fire that third barrell?

Big_Jim 09-16-2006 07:47 PM

Re: MINRAIZIN\'! : $3/$6 6-Max
 
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Am I crazy if I prefer ATo only from the CO and button?

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Bottom of my range, and I'll usually fold it, here, but rest of the table had been pretty tight, and we were only 5 handed.

CopTHIS 09-16-2006 07:53 PM

Re: MINRAIZIN\'! : $3/$6 6-Max
 
Calling is much better than raising IMO.

Big_Jim 09-16-2006 07:58 PM

Re: MINRAIZIN\'! : $3/$6 6-Max
 
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Calling is much better than raising IMO.

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How big a river bet are you calling?

How often do you expect a mostly-unknown to fire that third barrell?


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