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gobboboy
03-24-2006, 08:18 PM
So I saw FullTilt's show on FSN today while I was eating dinner (oh god, Outback is so good) and something caught my eye.

They had a SNG going with a ton of the top pros. Ferguson, Matusow, Juanda, Ivey... HELLMUTH!? Is there something I'm missing? Why is Hellmuth doing a FullTilt show? He was pretty securely an UltimateBet guy.

Did everyone else already know this? Am I crazy? You wouldn't like me when I'm crazy.

If no one else noticed this, then I guess Hellmuth defected to FullTilt... until I hear a new explanation.
olivert
03-24-2006, 08:47 PM
UB is allowing its top 3 "pros" (Duke, Hellmuth, Esfandiari) to appear on the Full Tilt FSN show.
RoyalLance
03-24-2006, 10:28 PM
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So I saw FullTilt's show on FSN today while I was eating dinner (oh god, Outback is so good) and something caught my eye.

They had a SNG going with a ton of the top pros. Ferguson, Matusow, Juanda, Ivey... HELLMUTH!? Is there something I'm missing? Why is Hellmuth doing a FullTilt show? He was pretty securely an UltimateBet guy.

Did everyone else already know this? Am I crazy? You wouldn't like me when I'm crazy.

If no one else noticed this, then I guess Hellmuth defected to FullTilt... until I hear a new explanation.

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Dude, this was not the only time a non-Full Tilt pro appeared in a Full Tilt show. Duke was on Play Poker like the Pros. Kid Poker was on Play Poker like the Pros. Hellmuth was on Play Poke like the Pros. I can go on and on and on...
HSB
03-25-2006, 12:32 AM
Esfandiari is one of UB's top three pros?

Who's number four?
MCS
03-25-2006, 05:37 AM
What is "FullTilt's show"? The invitational?
EvilSmurf
03-25-2006, 12:47 PM
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Esfandiari is one of UB's top three pros?

Who's number four?

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I'm shocked Antonio is considered in the top 3 too. I'd rank them 1) Phil 2) Devilfish 3) Annie Duke 4) Antonio
RowdyZ
03-25-2006, 04:01 PM
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Esfandiari is one of UB's top three pros?

Who's number four?

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I'm shocked Antonio is considered in the top 3 too. I'd rank them 1) Phil 2) Devilfish 3) Annie Duke 4) Antonio

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Actually i thought I had seen devilfish on there once as well.
robracing
03-26-2006, 09:50 AM
Devil Fish has his own Poker site now, so I guess that he has ended his association with UB.
scottjf8
03-26-2006, 12:16 PM
I was watching Poker Superstars 3 this morning (also known as the All In fest - what happened to real poker?) and Eli Elezra had a FTP shirt on...

Is he on the team now?
chiefballa49
03-27-2006, 12:10 PM
Johnny Chan also had a FTP shirt on on this weeks PS III.
grdred944
03-27-2006, 03:23 PM
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UB is allowing its top 3 "pros" (Duke, Hellmuth, Esfandiari) to appear on the Full Tilt FSN show.

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That reads so sad -- their top 3 pros include Duke and Esfandiari?
RoyalLance
03-28-2006, 09:02 AM
Click on this to see a REAL endorsement defection! (http://www.cardplayer.com/imgGal/2006-03/ngrd1.jpg)
stevepa
03-28-2006, 02:01 PM
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Click on this to see a REAL endorsement defection! (http://www.cardplayer.com/imgGal/2006-03/ngrd1.jpg)

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Don't worry, the guy that replaced her is much better. /images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Steve
olivert
03-28-2006, 09:02 PM
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Click on this to see a REAL endorsement defection! (http://www.cardplayer.com/imgGal/2006-03/ngrd1.jpg)

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Evelyn Ng's contract with PokerStars expired and was not renewed, for obvious reasons.

Bodog's deal isn't as good as what PokerStars offered.
wax42
03-28-2006, 11:34 PM
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Evelyn Ng's contract with PokerStars expired and was not renewed, for obvious reasons.

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What are the obvious reasons?
olivert
03-29-2006, 04:04 AM
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Evelyn Ng's contract with PokerStars expired and was not renewed, for obvious reasons.

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What are the obvious reasons?

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Evelyn Ng had a losing year while she was under contract with PokerStars. Her results at big-buy-in tourneys were not good.

PokerStars did NOT renew Evelyn Ng, Erin Ness, and John Gale after their one-year deals expired.

In their place, PokerStars have signed Joe Hachem, Lee Nelson (Aussie Millions winner) and Steve Paul-Ambrose (winner of PokerStars Caribbean Adventure).

Hachem has a long-term deal. Paul-Ambrose only has a 1-year deal. Don't know about Nelson.

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The deals that Bodog offered to David Williams, Josh Arieh, Evelyn Ng, etc. are essentially "staking" arrangements in which Team Bodog members have to replenlish the "buy in pool" every time they cash. They are only allowed to draw down the "buy in pool" only so much so they are under pressure to cash.