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waxhead- ignorance isn't necessarily lies. If I'm working in a lab investigating the acceleration of gravity and I make a mistake through incompetence, bad methods or bad data, then it isn't a lie. Althought its definitely possible, we haven't proven that yet

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Yea, I'm referring to the part where it's impossible for employees to see hole cards, but somehow they investigated hand histories that didn't go to showdown. Obviously, 'someone' can see hole cards!

They are being sly with their language there and referring to game client only.

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My post from the other thread...

To those people claiming that the XLS is the smoking gun because it shows that AP has records of hole cards when hands didn't go to showdown, that's dumb.

I've seen Stars admin level hand histories that show the same thing (ie, every hand in play, timestamps, etc).

The key is when the information is released from its secure location, who it's released to and how it is stored until it's released.

Obviously AP knows all holecards, how else would they send any individual user a hand history or detect collusion if they ever did bother to investigate anything?

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