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CallMeIshmael
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Reged: 12/30/04
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Re: I hate you tiger woods.... AKA: Stats post
      04/11/05 08:43 PM

Introduction:


The intent of this post is NOT to have players change their game in an effort
to make their stats look more like those presented.

This post is intended to give people who are curious about their stats an idea as
to where other winning players stand. The one-half standard deviation range about
the mean is probably a good range for your stats to be in.

It is very likely that winning players exist whose stats fall outside of many
or all of these ranges. Likewise, it is very likely that some losing players
have stats which fall within all of these ranges.

Stats are great for plugging large leaks. If a player has a VPIP of 8.2% or 34.1%,
they clearly are not playing an optimul number of hands. Examining stats will not
take a 1.5BB/100 winner, and turn him/her into a 2.2BB/100 winner. These improvements
need play time and hand posts.

You might be calling the correct pecentage of river bets, but that doesn't tell us
that you are calling the RIGHT rivers.






Preface:


The two most commonly used statistics when measuring a group of data are: mean
and standard variation.


Mean: This is simply the average. You add all the numbers together, and divide
by the total number of observations.

Standard Deviation: This is the measure of spread. I will leave the complicated
formula out of this. Basically, the further the data tends to fall from the mean, the
greater the standard deviation.

For example:

{5,7,9,11,13} and {1,3,9,15,17}

have the same mean: 9, but the second set has a greater standard deviation.

In addition to these two statistics, the following will also be used:

A one-half standard deviation range about the mean: This is a range that measures

from
0.5 standard deviations below the mean to 0.5 standard deviations above the mean.

For example: In a data set with: mean = 10; standard deviation = 6;

This range is: 7 - 13.


Min: Smallest datum in the set.


Max: Largest datum in the set.





Methodology:


I asked for stat submissions from 2/4 and 3/6 players in the small stakes forum.

I received 21 sets of stats from 2/4 players and 10 from 3/6 players.

(This ended up being roughly 504,000 hands for 2/4 and 313,000 for 3/6).

Using S-Plus software, I proceeded to compute the data in the preface.



Findings:


2/4:


VPIP:

Mean: 17.9
Standard Deviation: 3.18
Min: 13.13
Max: 27.75
A one-half standard deviation range about the mean: 16.31-19.49


VPIP in SB:

Mean: 30.24
Standard Deviation: 6.09
Min: 20.91
Max: 48.78
A one-half standard deviation range about the mean: 27.19-33.28


Folded SB to steal:

Mean: 83.01
Standard Deviation: 7.20
Min: 67.88
Max: 91.43
A one-half standard deviation range about the mean: 79.41-86.61


Folded BB to steal:

Mean: 63.09
Standard Deviation: 13.51
Min: 20.51
Max: 79.12
A one-half standard deviation range about the mean: 56.33-69.84


Attempted to steal blinds:

Mean: 27.19
Standard Deviation: 4.70
Min: 19.29
Max: 33.33
A one-half standard deviation range about the mean: 24.84-29.54


Won $ WSF:

Mean: 33.27
Standard Deviation: 2.28
Min: 29.60
Max: 37.89
A one-half standard deviation range about the mean: 32.13-34.41


Went to SD %:

Mean: 31.73
Standard Deviation: 3.11
Min: 26.74
Max: 37.99
A one-half standard deviation range about the mean: 30.18-33.29


Won $ at SD %:

Mean: 53.87
Standard Deviation: 3.73
Min: 47.77
Max: 60.17
A one-half standard deviation range about the mean: 52.00-55.73


Preflop Raise %:

Mean: 9.22
Standard Deviation: 1.56
Min: 6.84
Max: 12.56
A one-half standard deviation range about the mean: 8.44-10.00


Flop aggression factor:

Mean: 2.85
Standard Deviation: 0.64
Min: 1.86
Max: 3.98
A one-half standard deviation range about the mean: 2.53-3.17


Turn aggression factor:

Mean: 2.82
Standard Deviation: 0.35
Min: 2.12
Max: 3.55
A one-half standard deviation range about the mean: 2.64-2.99


River aggression factor:

Mean: 2.10
Standard Deviation: 0.24
Min: 1.60
Max: 2.55
A one-half standard deviation range about the mean: 1.98-2.22


Folded to river bet %:

Mean: 45.84
Standard Deviation: 4.73
Min: 34.81
Max: 56.22
A one-half standard deviation range about the mean: 43.48-48.21


VPIP from button:

Mean: 20.02
Standard Deviation: 3.50
Min: 15.95
Max: 28.33
A one-half standard deviation range about the mean: 18.27-21.77


VPIP from one off Button:

Mean: 17.86
Standard Deviation: 2.96
Min: 13.16
Max: 26.82
A one-half standard deviation range about the mean: 16.38-19.34


VPIP from two off Button:

Mean: 16.48
Standard Deviation: 3.00
Min: 11.71
Max: 25.24
A one-half standard deviation range about the mean: 14.97-17.98


VPIP from three off Button:

Mean: 15.35
Standard Deviation: 3.25
Min: 11.66
Max: 25.29
A one-half standard deviation range about the mean: 13.72-16.97


VPIP from four off Button:

Mean: 14.79
Standard Deviation: 3.54
Min: 9.80
Max: 24.41
A one-half standard deviation range about the mean: 13.02-16.56


VPIP from five off Button:

Mean: 14.49
Standard Deviation: 2.92
Min: 9.58
Max: 23.72
A one-half standard deviation range about the mean: 13.03-15.95


VPIP from six off Button:

Mean: 14.60
Standard Deviation: 3.14
Min: 9.57
Max: 23.66
A one-half standard deviation range about the mean: 13.03-16.17


VPIP from seven off Button:

Mean: 14.25
Standard Deviation: 3.54
Min: 7.44
Max: 24.08
A one-half standard deviation range about the mean: 12.47-16.02


VPIP from BB:

Mean: 17.23
Standard Deviation: 4.39
Min: 11.86
Max: 29.46
A one-half standard deviation range about the mean: 15.03-19.43


Loss from BB:

Mean: 0.18
Standard Deviation: 0.05
Min: 0.08
Max: 0.28
A one-half standard deviation range about the mean: 0.15-0.20


Loss from SB:

Mean: 0.11
Standard Deviation: 0.05
Min: 0.02
Max: 0.21
A one-half standard deviation range about the mean: 0.09-0.14



3/6:


VPIP:

Mean: 17.63
Standard Deviation: 2.92
Min: 14.46
Max: 22.75
A one-half standard deviation range about the mean: 16.18-19.09


VPIP in SB:

Mean: 24.14
Standard Deviation: 5.17
Min: 18.64
Max: 31.21
A one-half standard deviation range about the mean: 21.55-26.72


Folded SB to steal:

Mean: 84.12
Standard Deviation: 5.01
Min: 77.67
Max: 91.25
A one-half standard deviation range about the mean: 81.61-86.62


Folded BB to steal:

Mean: 62.92
Standard Deviation: 12.92
Min: 44.69
Max: 78.65
A one-half standard deviation range about the mean: 56.46-69.38


Attempted to steal blinds:

Mean: 27.34
Standard Deviation: 6.29
Min: 15.67
Max: 38.62
A one-half standard deviation range about the mean: 24.19-30.48


Won $ WSF:

Mean: 37.00
Standard Deviation: 2.72
Min: 32.90
Max: 40.96
A one-half standard deviation range about the mean: 35.64-38.36


Went to SD %:

Mean: 34.50
Standard Deviation: 3.51
Min: 31.24
Max: 41.96
A one-half standard deviation range about the mean: 32.74-36.25


Won $ at SD %:

Mean: 53.74
Standard Deviation: 3.46
Min: 48.91
Max: 60.36
A one-half standard deviation range about the mean: 52.01-55.48


Preflop Raise %:

Mean: 9.63
Standard Deviation: 1.73
Min: 6.72
Max: 12.38
A one-half standard deviation range about the mean: 8.77-10.50


Flop aggression factor:

Mean: 2.90
Standard Deviation: 0.58
Min: 1.92
Max: 3.82
A one-half standard deviation range about the mean: 2.61-3.16


Turn aggression factor:

Mean: 2.89
Standard Deviation: 0.55
Min: 1.92
Max: 3.82
A one-half standard deviation range about the mean: 2.62-3.16


River aggression factor:

Mean: 1.94
Standard Deviation: 0.27
Min: 1.63
Max: 2.47
A one-half standard deviation range about the mean: 1.80-2.07


Folded to river bet %:

Mean: 40.44
Standard Deviation: 7.50
Min: 21.55
Max: 47.61
A one-half standard deviation range about the mean: 36.69-44.19


VPIP from button:

Mean: 20.45
Standard Deviation: 3.63
Min: 16.57
Max: 25.61
A one-half standard deviation range about the mean: 18.63-22.27


VPIP from one off Button:

Mean: 18.34
Standard Deviation: 2.88
Min: 14.84
Max: 23.66
A one-half standard deviation range about the mean: 16.90-19.78


VPIP from two off Button:

Mean: 17.36
Standard Deviation: 2.93
Min: 13.51
Max: 23.16
A one-half standard deviation range about the mean: 15.90-18.82


VPIP from three off Button:

Mean: 16.06
Standard Deviation: 3.71
Min: 12.79
Max: 22.29
A one-half standard deviation range about the mean: 14.21-17.92


VPIP from four off Button:

Mean: 15.01
Standard Deviation: 2.94
Min: 12.04
Max: 20.12
A one-half standard deviation range about the mean: 13.54-16.48


VPIP from five off Button:

Mean: 14.33
Standard Deviation: 2.97
Min: 10.38
Max: 19.81
A one-half standard deviation range about the mean: 12.84-15.82


VPIP from six off Button:

Mean: 13.70
Standard Deviation: 2.77
Min: 10.12
Max: 19.48
A one-half standard deviation range about the mean: 12.31-15.09


VPIP from seven off Button:

Mean: 14.35
Standard Deviation: 3.01
Min: 9.29
Max: 18.44
A one-half standard deviation range about the mean: 12.85-15.86


VPIP from BB:

Mean: 18.30
Standard Deviation: 4.19
Min: 12.55
Max: 23.66
A one-half standard deviation range about the mean: 16.21-20.40


Loss from BB:

Mean: 0.19
Standard Deviation: 0.06
Min: 0.08
Max: 0.26
A one-half standard deviation range about the mean: 0.16-0.22


Loss from SB:

Mean: 0.06
Standard Deviation: 0.02
Min: 0.04
Max: 0.09
A one-half standard deviation range about the mean: 0.05-0.07



Thanks:

I owe many thanks to all those who sent me their stats. As some did it anonymously,
I can't name names here. But you know who you are. Thanks!

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* Compiled Small Stakes stats CallMeIshmael 04/11/05 08:43 PM
. * * Re: Compiled Small Stakes stats ooinsight   02/20/06 03:00 AM
. * * Re: Compiled Small Stakes stats siegfriedandroy   01/09/06 07:14 PM
. * * Re: Compiled Small Stakes stats Mike HavenModerator   01/09/06 07:56 PM
. * * Re: Compiled Small Stakes stats TexasJWP   01/09/06 03:32 PM
. * * Re: Compiled Small Stakes stats soon2bepro   01/02/06 06:03 AM
. * * Re: Compiled Small Stakes stats Elevens   01/09/06 03:38 PM
. * * Re: Compiled Small Stakes stats mack848   01/02/06 09:15 AM
. * * Re: Compiled Small Stakes stats stevecook   01/02/06 01:02 AM
. * * Re: I hate you tiger woods.... AKA: Stats post jason_t   09/19/05 12:33 AM
. * * Re: I hate you tiger woods.... AKA: Stats post meep_42   09/19/05 02:42 AM
. * * Re: I hate you tiger woods.... AKA: Stats post jason_t   09/19/05 02:44 AM
. * * Re: I hate you tiger woods.... AKA: Stats post istewart   09/19/05 08:15 AM
. * * Re: I hate you tiger woods.... AKA: Stats post CallMeIshmael   09/20/05 08:50 PM
. * * Re: I hate you tiger woods.... AKA: Stats post jason_t   09/20/05 09:04 PM
. * * Re: I hate you tiger woods.... AKA: Stats post private joker   10/25/05 07:29 AM
. * * Re: I hate you tiger woods.... AKA: Stats post Elevens   12/12/05 03:03 PM
. * * Re: I hate you tiger woods.... AKA: Stats post MrEngenic   12/12/05 03:09 PM
. * * Re: I hate you tiger woods.... AKA: Stats post Elevens   12/12/05 03:16 PM
. * * Re: I hate you tiger woods.... AKA: Stats post MrEngenic   12/12/05 03:17 PM
. * * Re: I hate you tiger woods.... AKA: Stats post SackUp   08/17/05 02:42 AM
. * * Re: I hate you tiger woods.... AKA: Stats post CallMeIshmael   08/17/05 02:31 PM
. * * Re: I hate you tiger woods.... AKA: Stats post BitterChris   02/19/06 02:47 PM
. * * Re: I hate you tiger woods.... AKA: Stats post Sniper   08/19/05 02:01 AM
. * * Re: I hate you tiger woods.... AKA: Stats post TheHammer24   09/19/05 12:26 AM
. * * Re: I hate you tiger woods.... AKA: Stats post Dagger78   09/19/05 12:34 AM
. * * Re: I hate you tiger woods.... AKA: Stats post DocMartin   08/18/05 05:25 PM
. * * Re: I hate you tiger woods.... AKA: Stats post peterchi   08/17/05 02:41 PM
. * * Re: I hate you tiger woods.... AKA: Stats post meep_42   08/17/05 02:40 PM
. * * Re: I hate you tiger woods.... AKA: Stats post meep_42   08/17/05 02:39 PM
. * * Re: I hate you tiger woods.... AKA: Stats post mozz   08/17/05 01:59 PM
. * * Re: I hate you tiger woods.... AKA: Stats post CallMeIshmael   08/17/05 02:30 PM
. * * Re: I hate you tiger woods.... AKA: Stats post CallMeIshmael   08/15/05 01:18 PM
. * * Re: I hate you tiger woods.... AKA: Stats post meep_42   08/15/05 01:47 PM
. * * Re: I hate you tiger woods.... AKA: Stats post jason_t   08/15/05 01:51 PM
. * * Re: I hate you tiger woods.... AKA: Stats post meep_42   08/15/05 01:52 PM
. * * Re: I hate you tiger woods.... AKA: Stats post dtbog   08/02/05 02:05 PM
. * * Re: I hate you tiger woods.... AKA: Stats post Evan   07/17/05 04:13 PM
. * * Re: I hate you tiger woods.... AKA: Stats post CallMeIshmael   07/17/05 05:40 PM
. * * Re: I hate you tiger woods.... AKA: Stats post Sactodian   07/17/05 03:53 PM
. * * Re: I hate you tiger woods.... AKA: Stats post shant   07/17/05 03:57 PM
. * * Re: I hate you tiger woods.... AKA: Stats post CallMeIshmael   06/19/05 06:41 PM
. * * Re: I hate you tiger woods.... AKA: Stats post RacersEdge   05/23/05 11:39 AM
. * * Re: I hate you tiger woods.... AKA: Stats post CallMeIshmael   05/23/05 12:40 PM
. * * Re: I hate you tiger woods.... AKA: Stats post CallMeIshmael   05/19/05 07:28 PM
. * * Re: I hate you tiger woods.... AKA: Stats post Perseus   05/19/05 07:32 PM
. * * Re: I hate you tiger woods.... AKA: Stats post CallMeIshmael   05/19/05 07:36 PM
. * * Re: I hate you tiger woods.... AKA: Stats post meep_42   05/19/05 09:14 PM
. * * Re: I hate you tiger woods.... AKA: Stats post CallMeIshmael   05/19/05 10:28 PM
. * * Re: I hate you tiger woods.... AKA: Stats post DMBFan23   05/23/05 11:17 AM
. * * Re: I hate you tiger woods.... AKA: Stats post madscout   05/23/05 11:27 AM
. * * Re: I hate you tiger woods.... AKA: Stats post Perseus   05/19/05 07:22 PM
. * * Re: I hate you tiger woods.... AKA: Stats post goodguy_1   04/21/05 06:46 PM
. * * Re: I hate you tiger woods.... AKA: Stats post CallMeIshmael   04/21/05 06:57 PM
. * * Re: I hate you tiger woods.... AKA: Stats post goodguy_1   04/21/05 07:08 PM
. * * Re: I hate you tiger woods.... AKA: Stats post CallMeIshmael   04/21/05 07:14 PM
. * * Re: I hate you tiger woods.... AKA: Stats post goodguy_1   04/21/05 07:23 PM
. * * Re: I hate you tiger woods.... AKA: Stats post Aces_up07   04/13/05 10:53 PM
. * * Re: I hate you tiger woods.... AKA: Stats post Madtown   04/13/05 02:53 PM
. * * Re: I hate you tiger woods.... AKA: Stats post Pokey   04/13/05 02:35 PM
. * * Re: I hate you tiger woods.... AKA: Stats post CallMeIshmael   04/13/05 02:43 PM
. * * Re: I hate you tiger woods.... AKA: Stats post shark6   04/13/05 01:43 PM
. * * Re: I hate you tiger woods.... AKA: Stats post climber   04/13/05 02:01 PM
. * * Re: I hate you tiger woods.... AKA: Stats post crunchy1   04/13/05 08:31 AM
. * * Re: I hate you tiger woods.... AKA: Stats post CallMeIshmael   04/13/05 12:58 PM
. * * Re: I hate you tiger woods.... AKA: Stats post crunchy1   04/13/05 01:22 PM
. * * Re: I hate you tiger woods.... AKA: Stats post admiralfluff   04/12/05 05:12 AM
. * * Compiled stats sparky3474   06/30/07 11:50 AM
. * * Re: Compiled stats CallMeIshmael   06/30/07 02:07 PM
. * * Re: Compiled stats Marmor   11/09/07 06:48 PM
. * * Re: I hate you tiger woods.... AKA: Stats post menchbrew   05/14/06 08:51 PM
. * * Re: I hate you tiger woods.... AKA: Stats post Mike Jett   05/14/06 08:58 PM
. * * Re: I hate you tiger woods.... AKA: Stats post Abbaddabba   06/09/06 04:48 AM
. * * Re: I hate you tiger woods.... AKA: Stats post walshamatic   08/17/05 02:42 PM
. * * Re: I hate you tiger woods.... AKA: Stats post CallMeIshmael   04/12/05 12:30 PM
. * * Re: I hate you tiger woods.... AKA: Stats post brazilio   04/12/05 03:40 PM
. * * Re: I hate you tiger woods.... AKA: Stats post Jeff W   04/12/05 04:41 AM
. * * Re: I hate you tiger woods.... AKA: Stats post CallMeIshmael   04/12/05 12:31 PM
. * * Re: I hate you tiger woods.... AKA: Stats post rounder911   04/12/05 12:57 PM
. * * Re: I hate you tiger woods.... AKA: Stats post CallMeIshmael   04/12/05 12:59 PM
. * * Re: I hate you tiger woods.... AKA: Stats post chief444   04/13/05 08:38 AM
. * * Re: I hate you tiger woods.... AKA: Stats post RollingRockMike   04/12/05 03:08 PM
. * * Re: I hate you tiger woods.... AKA: Stats post Hobbs.   12/12/05 09:28 PM
. * * Re: I hate you tiger woods.... AKA: Stats post jason_t   12/12/05 09:38 PM
. * * Re: I hate you tiger woods.... AKA: Stats post Elevens   12/12/05 10:50 PM
. * * Re: I hate you tiger woods.... AKA: Stats post jason_t   12/13/05 12:18 AM
. * * Re: I hate you tiger woods.... AKA: Stats post Jake (The Snake)   12/13/05 12:59 AM
. * * Re: I hate you tiger woods.... AKA: Stats post Elevens   12/13/05 09:38 AM
. * * Re: I hate you tiger woods.... AKA: Stats post Jeff_B   12/16/05 12:02 AM
. * * Re: I hate you tiger woods.... AKA: Stats post DocMartin   12/13/05 12:35 AM
. * * Re: I hate you tiger woods.... AKA: Stats post Webster   12/12/05 11:37 PM
. * * Re: I hate you tiger woods.... AKA: Stats post trentcroad   04/12/05 05:02 AM
. * * Re: I hate you tiger woods.... AKA: Stats post DMBFan23   04/11/05 09:21 PM
. * * Re: I hate you tiger woods.... AKA: Stats post legoman   06/13/05 05:40 PM
. * * Re: I hate you tiger woods.... AKA: Stats post meep_42   06/13/05 05:42 PM
. * * Re: I hate you tiger woods.... AKA: Stats post chief444   04/13/05 08:43 AM
. * * Re: I hate you tiger woods.... AKA: Stats post climber   04/13/05 09:53 AM
. * * Re: I hate you tiger woods.... AKA: Stats post Moozh   04/11/05 09:08 PM
. * * Re: I hate you tiger woods.... AKA: Stats post CallMeIshmael   04/11/05 09:14 PM
. * * Re: I hate you tiger woods.... AKA: Stats post CallMeIshmael   04/11/05 08:43 PM
. * * Re: I hate you tiger woods.... AKA: Stats post stevecook   01/02/06 01:00 AM
. * * Re: I hate you tiger woods.... AKA: Stats post krishan   05/23/05 10:49 AM
. * * Re: I hate you tiger woods.... AKA: Stats post TomG   04/13/05 08:06 PM
. * * Re: I hate you tiger woods.... AKA: Stats post CallMeIshmael   04/13/05 08:15 PM
. * * Re: I hate you tiger woods.... AKA: Stats post meep_42   04/13/05 08:50 PM
. * * Re: I hate you tiger woods.... AKA: Stats post Jim C   04/13/05 03:08 PM
. * * Re: I hate you tiger woods.... AKA: Stats post CallMeIshmael   04/13/05 03:17 PM
. * * Re: I hate you tiger woods.... AKA: Stats post RollingRockMike   04/11/05 09:47 PM
. * * Re: I hate you tiger woods.... AKA: Stats post Master5hake   04/11/05 09:29 PM

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