Turned straight on scary board

[Borno]

5/10 live Brantford Charity Casino, where all the cool kids hang out... 10 handed.

I'm in LP with 78 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

1 EP limper - this guy is okay, too loose preflop but somewhat decent post flop..

I limp, SB folds, BB checks. No reads on BB.

Please do not focus on preflop - I realize this is a slightly loose call given that there is only 1 limper in already...

Flop: 9 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Pot: 3.5 SB

SB bets, EP calls, I raise, SB 3-bets, EP calls, I cap, and everyone calls.

Turn: J [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7.5 BB

BB checks, EP bets, I ...

[stanky]

Call. Call non club river. He could of turned the flush but he could be betting a J and one club or two pair.

[_TKO_]

I feel like I have to mention preflop since it is worse than "slightly loose". I don't think preflop is marginal. I think it's bad. You are in late position and cannot expect the pot to get big. You should be folding this 90% of the time. If you ever play it, make it a raise.

You could be calling this flop, although it could be a fold sometimes. The pot is small, none of your draws are to the nuts, and not all your outs are clean. You are getting 5.5:1, which is what you need for 7 outs. Say you have 6 clean outs to your straight plus your weak backdoor which you might count as 0.5 outs. You almost have 7 outs, but your implied odds are nullified by the redraw and the fact that you aren't drawing to the nuts. Actually, I think this is a good spot to fold and save some bets.

Your raise and cap is spewing. You could find an argument for raising if you think you can take the whole pot, although this isn't likely against a typical 5-10 player and a slightly loose player. More likely you are pumping without enough equity to do so. Why are you capping?

On the turn, EP's hand is most likely a flush, and now you are trapped to see a showdown. I'll probably call down and hope to see a slowplayed set, two pair, or pair with a missed river flush. I don't think folding is possible. SB's hand looks like something she just wants to call down with. This could be a set, two pair, or something like A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Tx. Call the turn and hope the river doesn't pair or flush. Fold if it does. Your spot sucks and you don't want to be raising against a likely flush just to protect against SB's possible draw.

Note that SB is in a great position to c/r her turned flush.

[TStoneMBD]

raise and fold to a 3bet

[_TKO_]

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raise and fold to a 3bet

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Why?

[Borno]

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Why?

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I capped on the flop, if I raise here I'm definetly representing a big hand.. at 5/10 EP could easily have 2 pair or trips.. he is decent post flop so he isn't 3 betting me with a worse hand (unlikely anyway).

My turn raise may fold out BB and I'm also charging all trips, 2 pairs, and flush draws an extra bet.

If I get 3 bet its a pretty easy fold... If I don't raise there is a large chance I'll get sucked out by guys that didn't have to pay much for the river.

[fishyak]

I agree with the raise and cap comment, particularly when you have the bottom end of the OESD. If anyone is drawing to a flush (likely), their draw is better than yours. Your raise cannot protect your hand. Pure spew.

IMO, you want to see a cheap showdown. Yes, you have a straight that loses to any other straight and any flush. I do not see how aggression here can be rewarded.

[_TKO_]

The only hand that BB can have for which raising is better than calling is two pair exactly. Any set or one card flush can peel profitably. Mind you, you could be protecting against a small one-card flush draw, but given her play, her most likely hand is TPGK, set, or two pair.

In your spot here, I think you are charging yourself more often than you are charging a draw. Note that you will not always pay two bets to see a showdown when you have the best hand, but will always pay two bets or more when you don't.