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quarkncover
SSNL Grand Nagus


Reged: 05/01/05
Posts: 3210
Loc: Quark's Bar
Carpal/Tunnel Post: Control
      #5985067 - 05/28/06 05:50 PM

All men and women are born, live suffer and die; what distinguishes us one from another is our dreams, whether they be dreams about worldly or unworldly things, and what we do to make them come about... We do not choose to be born. We do not choose our parents. We do not choose our historical epoch, the country of our birth, or the immediate circumstances of our upbringing. We do not, most of us, choose to die; nor do we choose the time and conditions of our death. But within this realm of choicelessness, we do choose how we live.

-Joseph Epstein (Essayist)

Poker, as in life, is a game of choice. You make the correct decisions, and you will be rewarded over the long run. Make incorrect choices, and your bankroll will slowly bleed away.

With poker, as in life, we have many choices, the most important choice is how we choose to take control of our game. Through my observation of poker players behavioral patterns, the dialogue on 2p2, a lot reading and personal experience, I strongly believe the path to success at the poker tables begins by control over your life, your emotions and complete control over the choices you make at the poker table.

Control

Control of your life

I don't want to come off as too preachy or Doctor Phil-like here, but IMHO success at the poker tables over the long run correlates to healthy life choices.

In my personal experience, I play the worst when there is unhealthy stress in my life. Whether this comes from tension with loved ones, overwork, or any number of things, stress affects my ability to make correct choices at the table.

I found that making some very simple, basic changes in my routines affected my ability to think, and reason at the poker table.

  • Eating well
  • Sleeping well
  • Staying active
  • And Maintaining healthy interpersonal relationships


Control of your emotions

This has been, and still is, one of the most difficult challenges for me as my poker game progresses. When I tilt, I tilt A LOT. Though some players seem to have a zen like ability to deal with the variance inherent in the game, I (along with many others) do not have that mental fortitude and patience, though I am improving.

My lack of control of my emotions has been very costly. Only recently have I slowly been improving my emotional control at the poker table.

IMO, tilt control/reduction begins with a strong emotional foundation. A healthy, positive attitude will often do wonders for your game.

I am a classically trained cellist, and one of my professors was from Argentina. One day I brought my cello to a lesson, but we didn't work on the pieces I had memorized and prepared for my lesson, because she knew something was wrong. In her thick accent she told me, "You know, everyone in Argentina has a shrink, its good for you." Ultimately we spent the whole lesson discussing my personal life and how unrest at home and pent up aggression and anger were affecting my ability to perform. She suggested taking a vacation, I did, and came back refreshed with a new attitude on life and towards my instrument. Consequentially, I began making better decisions, my playing improved, and I went on to perform a concerto with the Wisconsin Chamber Orchestra and accepted the position of principal cellist in the Wisconsin Youth Symphony Orchestra.

In short, control over your emotions will improve your decision making.

Complete Control

Actor Gary Collins once said, "We can try to avoid making choices by doing nothing, but even that is a decision." As he so succintly put it, every action we take is determined by a conscious choice. When you have complete control of your life and emotions, your ability to make better decisions at the poker table will increase exponentially. The ultimate goal of course, is to get to an almost transcendent state of decision-making at the card table where we can "see" our opponents cards and make perfect decisions according to the Fundamental Theorem of Poker.

Though there is only so much we can control at the poker table, you have complete control over your decisions. By making good life choices, you will find that you are more observant at the poker table. You will feed off a new stream of information that will allow you to make more correct decisions. You will feel yourself controlling the table: changing gears appropriately, raising where you should raise, calling where you should call, and folding when you should fold, complete control.

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This post was not intended as a guide to success at the poker tables or in life. This is mostly just some of my random musings on Poker and Life. Though this post probably belongs in psychology, but SSNL is my home, and this is my 2500th post. Thank you for reading and allowing me to wax philosophic for a bit. SSNL has been a great home for me. SSNL is also constantly improving, with AJ as a mod now, Post content is improving and the signal to noise ratio is increasing. I look forward to the future of SSNL.

Edited by ajmargarine (05/28/06 07:45 PM)


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Fallen Hero
Carpal \'Tunnel


Reged: 04/22/05
Posts: 5772
Re: Control [Re: quarkncover]
      #5985097 - 05/28/06 05:54 PM

Great post quark.
I'd just like to point out that players often underrate the effect they're personal problems have on their game, I've done this with horrible results several times.


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terp
value bluffer


Reged: 12/05/05
Posts: 5522
Loc: i fire three shots like a porn...
Re: Control [Re: Fallen Hero]
      #5985114 - 05/28/06 05:57 PM

Quote:

Great post quark.
I'd just like to point out that players often underrate the effect they're personal problems have on their game, I've done this with horrible results several times.




some good [censored] in SSNL this weekend.


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Push_Fold
Pooh-Bah


Reged: 05/15/05
Posts: 1628
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Re: Control [Re: quarkncover]
      #5985159 - 05/28/06 06:02 PM

Very nice post.


Quote:



  • Eating well
  • Sleeping well
  • Staying active
  • And Maintaining healthy interpersonal relationships






Very important list that is often neglected by poker players. I am guilty of it as well. Lately (last 2-3months) I have cut my poker hours and put more focus on things found in that list and you know what -- my winrate has increased.

It really isn't about the quantity hours you put into the game it is about the quality. You can't have quality without adhering to what quarkncover listed.


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bent96
not cool enough to notice


Reged: 03/18/06
Posts: 1305
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Re: Control [Re: terp]
      #5985212 - 05/28/06 06:08 PM

Quote:

Quote:

Great post quark.
I'd just like to point out that players often underrate the effect they're personal problems have on their game, I've done this with horrible results several times.




some good [censored] in SSNL this weekend.




This forum has pretty much kicked ass the last couple of days. Wonder why.

Great post quark.


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matrix
there is NO spoon


Reged: 09/04/05
Posts: 7050
Loc: UK
Re: Control [Re: bent96]
      #5985243 - 05/28/06 06:13 PM

Good stuff!!!

can someone digest all of this great content as I think I've missed lots of it.


Up til recently I was playing 6+ hours a day every day and getting more and more frustrated at my lack of progress.

Last week I got more tilted than I ever have before and called off a whole 2 buyins making stupid idiot calls that I knew well enough not to make.

I was so upset with myself that I cashed everything out to NeTeller and haven't sat at a singlepoker table now for nearly a week.

Didn't read SSNL up till yesterday - haven't even opened a poker book - generally having time off poker.

I can highly recommend it

I shall get back to playing (and posting more) very soon - and hopefully my new Zen like state will have better results.


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quarkncover
SSNL Grand Nagus


Reged: 05/01/05
Posts: 3210
Loc: Quark's Bar
Re: Control [Re: matrix]
      #5985480 - 05/28/06 06:38 PM

Quote:



Didn't read SSNL up till yesterday - haven't even opened a poker book - generally having time off poker.

I can highly recommend it

I shall get back to playing (and posting more) very soon - and hopefully my new Zen like state will have better results.




Short breaks can sometimes remedy fatigue at the table, but to prevent burnout, periodic vacations are a must.

Glad to see you have control matrix


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Sidekick
old hand


Reged: 07/27/04
Posts: 710
Re: Carpal/Tunnel Post: Control [Re: quarkncover]
      #5986107 - 05/28/06 07:49 PM

Very nice post Quark.

It probably applies more to everyday life than it does to the poker tables, but it's great general advice.

Speaking as an old man (45+), I can tell you that life is going to throw you curves just like the cards do at a poker table. Following the 4 bullets listed can go a long way towards handling all the little and big curve balls that are thrown your way.


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AZplaya
Posts Like a Pooh Bah


Reged: 02/08/06
Posts: 1992
Loc: pwning NL $50
Re: Carpal/Tunnel Post: Control [Re: Sidekick]
      #5986341 - 05/28/06 08:16 PM

very nice post quark. I guess this makes up for not doing a pooh bah. Unless you did one and I missed it.

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Misanthrope
addict


Reged: 02/15/06
Posts: 523
Re: Carpal/Tunnel Post: Control [Re: Sidekick]
      #5986432 - 05/28/06 08:30 PM

I am an an angry individual. At the poker table I am usually calm. For me there are two things needed to play consistent winning poker. A huge comfortable bankroll. And playing at stakes you feel you kill. Not just playing at stakes you feel good enough to play at, but at a level where you feel you are one of the best few on the site.
If I play above my comfort level, bad beats worry me, I tilt off money making stupid bluffs, and generally play sub optimally.
But thats me.

Edited by Misanthrope (05/28/06 08:34 PM)


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