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ajmargarineModerator
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How's your SSNLHE?: KJs
      #3471283 - 09/22/05 04:44 PM

****Alright, here's the deal. The poll questions keep coming up in random order and it seems there is nothing that I can do to fix that. That makes it impossible to follow along in the hand. There are six questions. I will number them 1-6 and you just do the poll in that order, no matter what order the questions line up on the screen randomly. It suxs but that's the best I can do for now. And if anyone knows how to fix this problem of poll questions changing order, let me know please*****

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Here's another one. Play along in the hand, take the poll as you go. Comments welcome.

.50/$1 NLHE Full Table 9-handed. Relevant stacks:

UTG+1 ($125)
MP2 ($100)
CO ($190)
Hero ($105)

Reads: UTG+1 is a pretty poor player, strong when weak, weak when strong. He sees alot of flops, likes to minraise preflop with premium or junk, and is a calling station to the river if he has any part of the flop. He's been donating for about an hour; especially to CO, who is a very strong player. No reads on MP2.

Preflop: Hero is Button with K J . SB posts a blind of $0.50.
1 fold, UTG+1 minraises to $2, 1 fold, MP2 calls $2, 1 fold, CO calls $2, Action is on Hero.
#5 Go back to the flop. If Hero made a pot-sized raise, what would the action look like?
You may choose only one
Hero raises to $26.25
Hero raises to $38.25
Hero raises to $50.25
#6 Go back to the turn. What are the odds that Hero makes a flush or straight on the river?
You may choose only one
4.75:1
4.11:1
2.07:1
1.71:1
#4 Hero checks. River looks like this: Qs Td 3s 3h [4s]. UTG+1 bets $40, CO folds, Hero?
You may choose only one
Folds
Calls
Raises
#3 Hero calls, UTG+1 also calls. 3 players, pot is $43.25. Turn looks like this: Qs Td 3s [3h]. UTG+1 and CO both check. Hero?
You may choose only one
Checks
Bets 1/2 pot
Bets pot
Pushes all-in
#1 What should Hero do?
You may choose only one
Fold
Call
Raise
#2 Hero calls $2, both blinds fold. 4 players, pot is $9.25. Flop comes Qs Td 3s. UTG+1 bets $5, MP2 folds, CO raises to $12, Hero?
You may choose only one
Folds
Calls
Makes a pot-sized raise
Pushes all-in


Votes accepted from (09/22/05 12:00 AM) to (No end specified)
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ajmargarineModerator
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Re: How's your SSNLHE?: KJs [Re: ajmargarine]
      #3471295 - 09/22/05 04:45 PM

ANSWER RATINGS:










I am no expert. Many respected posters disagree with these answers. Don't be leary of joining the chorus if you disagree. Answers are rated on a scale of 0-10. 0 being Here Fishie, Fishie . 10 being TWPish.

Question # 1 --

(0) Fold- You got a nice 3-way hand. High cards with straight and flush potential.
(9) Call- Simple. You got position, let's see a flop for cheap.
(4) Raise- Probably too aggressive given the action and your strength.
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Question # 2 --

(0) Fold- You have too many outs to fold. The only wrong answer here.
(9) Call- Given the action, this is conservative, low variance. OK, IMO.
(7) PSR- Aggressive, but nice.
(8) All in- Uber-Aggressive. Preferred over a PSR, IMO.
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Question # 3 --

(10) Check- Not raising the flop makes this manditory, IMO.
(0) 1/2 pot- Too weak, don't keep the betting open with a non-sensical bet.
(2) Bet pot- The board paired, caution is in order.
(4) Push- Steal that badboy, you got outs? Dangerous, but if you bet, pushing might be best?!?!?! (and a gambool)
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Question # 4 --

(3) Fold- You made a hand, it would be tough to lay it down now.
(7) Call- Best.
(0) Raise- Pair on the board, and you don't even have the nut flush.
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Question # 5 --

(O) $26.25- Nope
(0) $38.25- Nope
(10) $50.25- 9.25 + 5 + 12 + Hero calling 12 = 38.25 Raise 38.25 on top of your $12 call, Hero makes it $50.25 to go.
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Question # 6 --

(0) 4.75:1- These are the odds of making a straight only.
(0) 4.11:1- These are the odds of making a flush only.
(10) 2.07:1- Correct
(0) 1.71:1- You counted the As and 9s twice. You have 15 outs, not 17.
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Hand results: Hero called and UTG+1's pocket tens won the pot with a full house.

Again, I apologize for the poll order. Spent some time on this so didn't want it to go to waste by not posting it.


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Re: How's your SSNLHE?: KJs [Re: ajmargarine]
      #3471388 - 09/22/05 04:54 PM

You get an A for effort, but I think you might need to fold this one pre-flop

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Re: How's your SSNLHE?: KJs [Re: 4_2_it]
      #3471416 - 09/22/05 04:58 PM

Quote:

You get an A for effort, but I think you might need to fold this one pre-flop




I was thinking the same thing


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Re: How's your SSNLHE?: KJs [Re: ajmargarine]
      #3471459 - 09/22/05 05:04 PM

Quote:



Question # 1 --
(9) Call- Simple. You got position, let's see a flop for cheap.
-My take- Easily best option. No arguement
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Question # 2 --

(9) Call- Given the action, this is conservative, low variance. OK, IMO.
-My take- Best option, keep in both in , use our position, win some stacks.

(8) All in- Uber-Aggressive. Preferred over a PSR, IMO.
-My take- Why make a bet only hands that are ahead of you call, lets keep em both in and use our position not waste it.
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Question # 3 --

(10) Check- Not raising the flop makes this manditory, IMO.
-My take- Why get pushed of your monster draw, take a free card, you could easily have k high in showdown.
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Question # 4 --

(7) Call- Best.
-My take- Prob best

(0) Raise- Pair on the board, and you don't even have the nut flush.
-My mistake- I voted raise, this is prob bad though. +Ev at 25nl and 50nl, though I doubt at these stakes. i like calling better in retrospect.
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Question # 5 --

(10) $50.25- 9.25 + 5 + 12 + Hero calling 12 = 38.25 Raise 38.25 on top of your $12 call, Hero makes it $50.25 to go.
-My take- Simple math, im surprised the majority got this wrong (so far (at 10 votes))
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(10) 2.07:1- Correct
-My take- Know these numbers cold.
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Hand results: Hero called and UTG+1's pocket tens won the pot with a full house.
CRAP





Edited by wdeadwyler (09/22/05 05:16 PM)


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Re: How's your SSNLHE?: KJs [Re: 4_2_it]
      #3471466 - 09/22/05 05:05 PM

Thanks for the encouragment. Much appreciated.

Again, I apologize for how the questions line up. Was out of my control. Life's not fair. 2+2 is rigged. Deal with it.


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Re: How's your SSNLHE?: KJs [Re: 4_2_it]
      #3471467 - 09/22/05 05:05 PM

Quote:

You get an A for effort, but I think you might need to fold this one pre-flop




Thats a joke right?


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NickPoker
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Re: How's your SSNLHE?: KJs [Re: ajmargarine]
      #3471469 - 09/22/05 05:05 PM

The one thing I would like to discuss with the answers in the poll is Question #4 regarding whether to call, fold or push to the $40 bet.

I don't think it is so bad to push in this situation because the way you describe the UTG I think you are ahead, and that UTG is bad enough to call with a marginal holding.

Analyzing how UTG played the hand
preflop: raise could mean a wide range of hands.
flop: Looks like a standard contuation bet.
Turn: Slows down because of C/o's reraise.
River: Makes strong bet trying to take the pot down. You mentioned when strong many times he is weak.

Given the fact that UTG is weak a player, and has already committed almost half his stack to pot, it looks to me he will call a raise with a wide enough range of hands that hero is beating to justify a raise. At the very least I don't think it should be completely ruled out. Now if the stacks were larger I would agree just a call would be in order.


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Re: How's your SSNLHE?: KJs [Re: mosuavea]
      #3471510 - 09/22/05 05:09 PM

Quote:

Quote:

You get an A for effort, but I think you might need to fold this one pre-flop




I was thinking the same thing




why?


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Re: How's your SSNLHE?: KJs [Re: ajmargarine]
      #3471518 - 09/22/05 05:10 PM

Quote:

Thanks for the encouragment. Much appreciated.

2+2 is rigged.




Don't get mad at me just because Xorbie pulled the 2+2 DOOM switch on you.

On a serious note, I enjoy your polls, but even you have to see the humor in your Sisypusian effort here.


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