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Rob and Amber: Against the Odds, a reality show where Daniel Negreanu coaches Rob as he attempts to become a professional poker player, starts airing January 11.
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I think I saw a porno called that...
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TrueGrinder
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Please tell me this is a joke. Please....
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The video crew of the show actually showed up at the PokerDome in Vegas to videotape Rob Marinaro's attempt to win his TV tourney.
As I recalled, Marinaro was way too passive, and he played his final hand like a total amateur, not betting his flopped top pair until his opponent backed into a straight on the river.
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ilovethisgame
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hopefully he'll lose the million she won on survivor. seriously, this guy is a douche. i can't believe she hooked up with him.
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Rob and Amber?? Come on.. their 15 minutes are long gone
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He's a sociopath. She's a fool with money.
Things will work themselves out.
The best part about them being a couple is that it prevents two other people from having to be miserable.
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LottaNirvana
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>>The best part about them being a couple is that it prevents two other people from having to be miserable.
Took the words right outta my mouth.
Could it be that the loser of a prop bet on High Stakes had to do this show. ????
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the fact that you guys know who these people are makes me wonder who the real losers are.
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Well, that's an awful good point, saul.
Guilty as charged.
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Could it be that the loser of a prop bet on High Stakes had to do this show. ????
Daniel has always claimed that props are what kept him from being too far in the red on High Stakes Poker.
From what I understand in his blogs, Rob is actually his friend.
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I busted him in one of his early outings, aparrently in the episode that's airing this week. I had a short interview that my buddies said was aired and it looked good. Anybody see the show? I have yet to catch it.
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So far, I've seen the one episode, where he pushes on a flush draw.
Had me ROFL. What a tool. Whoever they interviewed afterward certainly came off a lot better than Rob did.
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Thanks. Whoever they interviewed was me. Y'all will get a kick out of how this hand went down:
Ten minutes into the session, him and I are only players with full stacks of $1k, ten handed. He limps UTG, I raise MP w/KTo, five of us to the flop. Comes KTx two diamonds, he opens for $30, I pop it to $120, folds around, he makes it... $1k? "I decided to make a move, and whaddya know he called with two pair."
I was disappointed however because they knew who I was and chose to not mention anything... not even a name. They were talking about how good it would be for TV that he got busted by a Vegas pro so quickly, but I suppose they decided to put a different spin on the show. At least they didn't spin me off to make me look like a dick!
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Apparently I don't understand reality TV. They talk as if they are making real life decisions but there are cameras present to record the conversations between him and his wife. That would indicate that it was decided ahead of time to make a TV show. Therefore, one must conclude that they are acting???
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This show would be much better if they just showed the reality dude donking off max buy-ins and then chalking it up to bad luck the whole time. I don't need to hear him talk to his wife. As an aside, he comes across as a super steamcase.
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Tom B
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I watched the show and Rob is listed at the Executive Producer which means his wife knew in advance. It's not like she would say well Rob is the executive producer so I guess I will say no to the poker playing.
He seems like he is going to be a complete donkey. The whole show seems to be a complete joke. Rob says he is not a 9 to 5 type and wants to play poker. Lucky him he was able to pitch a "reality show" to Fox.
I a sad to see Daniel Negreanu got involved with this turkey.
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I watch it just to see my prediction that Rob's got too many impulse control problems to do anything but lose spectacularly.
But, it seems like about DN's speed. I mean, DN's a great poker player, but I have some grave doubts as to his quality as a person, and by extension, his ability to judge character.
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Nice Job Bryan
Rob goes all in with A6 of diamonds and you bust him with two pair. Then they interview you and you basically say, yeah these new no limit donks do that move all the time.
Nice perm by the way.
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Thanks. Don't knock the curls. I'm half black and all the genes went into my hair and cack.
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Thanks. Don't knock the curls. I'm half black and all the genes went into my hair and cack.
Devo
wellplayed...the hand too.
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twentyfourseven
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for some reason their 15 keeps going and going and going.. didn't they have their wedding televised, now this and a return to survivor all star challenge i believe.
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This show is so bad it's good -like the wreck you just can't help slowing down to rubberneck. Daniel's participation makes me question when he crossed the line from poker pro to tv reality star...
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Thanks. Whoever they interviewed was me. Y'all will get a kick out of how this hand went down:
Ten minutes into the session, him and I are only players with full stacks of $1k, ten handed. He limps UTG, I raise MP w/KTo, five of us to the flop. Comes KTx two diamonds, he opens for $30, I pop it to $120, folds around, he makes it... $1k? "I decided to make a move, and whaddya know he called with two pair."
I was disappointed however because they knew who I was and chose to not mention anything... not even a name. They were talking about how good it would be for TV that he got busted by a Vegas pro so quickly, but I suppose they decided to put a different spin on the show. At least they didn't spin me off to make me look like a dick!
Devo
Was it weird when he came in with a camera crew in tow? Casinos usually ban video cameras, so you must have known it was something out of the ordinary. I think I would have taken a whizz until they left.
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for some reason their 15 keeps going and going and going.. didn't they have their wedding televised, now this and a return to survivor all star challenge i believe.
They also went deep in The Amazing Race.
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It was all pre set-up. I was playing at the Wynn and got a call from a floor guy at the Venetian. He told me that he had a game I needed to be in and it was going to be televised. So I showed up. We all had to sign release papers and then kinda sat around waiting for Rob to show up. We probably had played five hands before he sat down. Makes me love the "As soon as I sat down somebody recognized me" comment. Not weird with the cameras. Was a good time actually.
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LOL this show is pretty funny so far. I'm pretty sure it's just an infomercial for Vegas. Amber took a tour of the Signature and asked how much it went for AFTER the cameras got a good tape of the place. Rob is wayyy too dumb to make it as even a winning poker player, much less a pro. I think Daniel hit a bad run of cards last year and agreed to do the show so he could still afford to have his mom bring him sammiches in the middle of games.
OH FYI it's on Fox Reality channel.
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"We don't want to spend all of our money but let's rent this luxury apartment and buy a BMW and a Porsche, because we're going to be out here three whole months."
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Negreanu giving lessons in his bathrobe is a little weird.
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They say that the average lottery winner is broke in 7 years. I guess we're just witnessing the process.
Made me kinda wonder how much this is coming out of their TV show's budget, though. It could be that they're living off the show.
I have to think that Vegas businesses are paying for all this advertising time.
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The product placement has been pretty blatant.
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Massive product placement. CarMax pays for the cars, etc. Reality TV is more scripted than real.
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I fell of the couch laughing when they arrived in Vegas and Rob says "Since we were in Vegas I ordered a Limo" and every shot shows a limo with the Planet Hollywood logo on the side.
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Amber had a pretty solid Stuff spread back in the day.
Nicey nice
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If you haven't seen this yet, there appears to be a marathon of it tonight at 10pm. I just got hipped to this yesterday by my brother who said "You've got to see this show. It's so f-cking bad."
I'm wondering who likes to be on tv more -- Rob and Amber or Daniel?
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Just caught this tonight. Wow, it's bad. Maybe a step above cable-access. And why the hell is Negreanu spending his time watching this tool play 1-2 at the Red Rock?
Never saw the big deal about Amber either. Nice rack but otherwise just ok. And zero personality.
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I actually liked it, except for the Rob and Amber acting parts, which are obviously faked. Its not a bad show though, especially if theres now poker on tv. I think he plays $5/$10, at least the shows I have seen, he always buys in for $1000.
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is this show anything like Rob and Big? cuz thats a tight azz show
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I actually liked it, except for the Rob and Amber acting parts, which are obviously faked. Its not a bad show though, especially if theres now poker on tv. I think he plays $5/$10, at least the shows I have seen, he always buys in for $1000.
You are right he probably is playing 5/10 or at least 2/5... but it's still terrible because it's so fake. Like Amber's fake shock at Rob's idea of moving to Vegas (yeah like this wasn't already pre-planned when they pitched the dumb show in the first place?) Or Negreanu's fake shock when Rob told him he wanted to be a pro (Negreanu: "Wow!"). The rampant product placement etc., it' all so cheezy.
BTW has anyone been to the Red Rock casino? Never been there but it looked real nice on the show. (So there's some good product placement for them I guess.)
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I actually liked it, except for the Rob and Amber acting parts, which are obviously faked. Its not a bad show though, especially if theres now poker on tv. I think he plays $5/$10, at least the shows I have seen, he always buys in for $1000.
You are right he probably is playing 5/10 or at least 2/5... but it's still terrible because it's so fake. Like Amber's fake shock at Rob's idea of moving to Vegas (yeah like this wasn't already pre-planned when they pitched the dumb show in the first place?) Or Negreanu's fake shock when Rob told him he wanted to be a pro (Negreanu: "Wow!"). The rampant product placement etc., it' all so cheezy.
BTW has anyone been to the Red Rock casino? Never been there but it looked real nice on the show. (So there's some good product placement for them I guess.)
Red Rock is sick nice, I was there last year for a game tournament and it was utterly sick.
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Just catching up on this show...I have no idea why. I guess I like watching train wrecks. Anyhoo, Rob's first tournament was an Aladdin tourney (apparently w/rebuys). First hand Rob goes broke with AQo (no clubs). He hit top pair on an QXX all club board. He bets and is called by late position. Turned another Q. He bets again and is called by late position. On the river J of clubs hit. He was first to act and moved all in for about 1000 more chips. Hero called with ace of clubs. Reload. Obviously Negreanu passed along his rebuy strategy to Rob. Rob did seem to make it a bit deeper after that. Did he make the final table? I don't think he cashed because they would have probably hyped that the way they hyped it when Rob beat his non-poker playing buddy that came to visit.
EDIT: He came in 3rd. He there were about 45 players in the tourney. Not bad.
Edited by w_gibbs (02/04/07 11:25 AM)
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I was hoping after the scene where she was working out with the trainer, talking about how he was kinda cute and that she liked the attention, they would disappear into the shower togethter.
Then they could have a sequel called "Rob & Ambuh: Against teh Herp".
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Yah, I don't know why he's so torqued over coming in third in his first tourney. That's decent enough. You know, like coming in second on Survivor.
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for some reason their 15 keeps going and going and going.. didn't they have their wedding televised, now this and a return to survivor all star challenge i believe.
They also went deep in The Amazing Race.
They are also in the "Amazing Race All Stars" which starts this week.
So their 15 minutes is going to last a little longer
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Yah, I don't know why he's so torqued over coming in third in his first tourney. That's decent enough. You know, like coming in second on Survivor.
Yeah and wasn't it a morning tourney at the Aladdin with like 45 players? Don't those have like a 40 dollar buyin? If he's getting that steamed over a 3rd-place finish in a 40 dollar donkament I can't imagine him having the mental makeup to be a pro.
Anyway this seems much more like a way to extend their 15 minutes than a serious attempt to go pro.
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Yah, I don't know why he's so torqued over coming in third in his first tourney. That's decent enough. You know, like coming in second on Survivor.
Yeah and wasn't it a morning tourney at the Aladdin with like 45 players? Don't those have like a 40 dollar buyin? If he's getting that steamed over a 3rd-place finish in a 40 dollar donkament I can't imagine him having the mental makeup to be a pro.
Anyway this seems much more like a way to extend their 15 minutes than a serious attempt to go pro.
I couldn't believe his reaction. Imagine that he just missed the money is a big tournament. He'd be on suicide watch, end up in a mental institution, and/or end up in jail.
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Don't look now, there's a Rob & Ambah marathon tonight.
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I think there is a Rob and Ambah marathon everyday on Fox Reality.
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Amber had a pretty solid Stuff spread back in the day.
Nicey nice
Which is the first thing I thought about as well
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pig4bill
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Too bad other people don't dress her all the time, because the dresses she wears on that show look like crap.
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Just catching up on this show. I only watch the poker parts. Anyway, Rob was on MansionPoker tourney (as mentioned previously here). He hit a 9 early with 99 vs QQ to stay alive. He eventually got to headsup. Final hand of the tourney he checked himself into oblivion and moved allin into a straight...game over. He must be playing better than the show portrays to be making it this deep in the couple of tourneys they have shown. That or the fields just suck.
Watching the season finale now. Rob is in a WSOP Circuit event. First hand of the tourney, set over set over set. Rob had middle set. All three players get it in on the flop and Rob hits the 9 for quads on the river. Live poker is so rigged. He owns QQ with 99. Cha-ching triple up first hand of the tourney. Doesn't explain much else. He folded a big pot which chopped his stack in half. Later he shoved on a board of Q52 with K5 and got called by pocket aces. Out.
They left Vegas after 3 months (apparently the length of the trial period). Rob said he guarantees they will be back and they will kick butt.
Thoughts after having watched the full season:
1) It seemed very rehearsed. I've never watched reality TV (other than Cops), but it didn't come off as reality.
2) It never seemed like the guy honestly tried to put in enough sessions to make a living at this.
3) As others have mentioned, it seemed alot like a commercial for Vegas locations.
It would be great if Daniel Negreanu would be kind enough to share if Rob made a serious effort at making a profit through poker. There is no shame in making a show that is planned to be a commercial for Vegas. I am just curious to know if they were taking it serious. Now that the season has aired, I doubt there are many restrictions on sharing his experiences with the show.
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Methinks Rob played WAY more than two tourneys.... like 20 or more
And he's still a total donkey, seemingly just getting worse.
He doesn't listen to DN, he's an east coast guido, he's a total chump.
Furthermore, I don't believe Amber ever believed he could make it as a poker player... but she knew another reality show when she saw one. Same for DN there.
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Tom B
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Rob calling two all in's with middle set seems to be a pretty donkey play to me. One of the guys has to have QQQ.
I guess it is possible one could have AA and the other could have 444. But come on!
I tried to go back to CardPlayer and look at the archive but I guess the WSOP Circuit's do not have enough juice for live updates. That hand would have probably made the updates.
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KennyBanya
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The highlight of the show so far for me is wet, naked Amber trying to get Rob in the tub with her.
He passes because he doesn't really like baths, and suggested they watch a movie instead.
I kind of thought the guy was a douchebag before that, but that clinched it.
BTW, th more I see Amber the hotter I thnk she is, for some reason she was an acquired taste for me.
Peace,
KennyBanya
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Do you know the specific action on the set over set over set. I can see it being hard to get away from middle set, but it would depend on the action of course. for example, let's say you're in a $10k tournament, first hand -- you start with 10k in chips. You have 99. You raise from middle position to 150, button reraises to 600 and a blind calls. So you decide to call for set value -- fairly standard. Now the flop comes T95 with two of a suit. The blind bets 1800k, which is about the pot. You have to think your set is good on this drawing board -- plus you think it's very reasonable that one/both of these guys has AA-QQ. You raise to 4000, the button pushes, and the blind calls. Well, it's certain very possible that one of these guys has top set, but do you think it's an easy fold? Their range can easily be AA/KK AKs or even AT for lots of donks. Would you fold this hand for sure?
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Do you know the specific action on the set over set over set. I can see it being hard to get away from middle set, but it would depend on the action of course. for example, let's say you're in a $10k tournament, first hand -- you start with 10k in chips. You have 99. You raise from middle position to 150, button reraises to 600 and a blind calls. So you decide to call for set value -- fairly standard. Now the flop comes T95 with two of a suit. The blind bets 1800k, which is about the pot. You have to think your set is good on this drawing board -- plus you think it's very reasonable that one/both of these guys has AA-QQ. You raise to 4000, the button pushes, and the blind calls. Well, it's certain very possible that one of these guys has top set, but do you think it's an easy fold? Their range can easily be AA/KK AKs or even AT for lots of donks. Would you fold this hand for sure?
The show didn't mention the preflop raise or the starting stack sizes at all I am not sure the buy in of the event either. Board is Q 9 4 I assume he is early as he acts first with his bet of 1600 I would figure there was a preflop raise being the first hand of the tourney, and a bet that big. Then both other players go all in instantly after his bet Rob calls.
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Is there any chance this hand was faked? It seemed WAY too convenient to be on TV, and have him nail the one outer on the river
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kevJ
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i just watched the alladin tourny episode. Then i checked the lladin site to see what the tourny was. looks like 60 doller but no re-buys??? So it looks like they let him buy in twice... also getting that mad over 3rd in a 60doller donk is insane...
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There's no re-buy. They just let you enter again, as if you walked up late. They cap the number of entries (no idea why) and if there have been a lot of early bustos, they "run out" and won't let you buy back in.
That sequence was funny. They don't do the microphone announcing thing, it was just for the taping of the show.
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