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DrewDevil
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Re: Show Library: Pseudointellectual Books That, in Fact, Suck [Re: sparkyjones]
#8402050 - 12/12/06 10:32 PM

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existentialism and objectivism are one in the same. ayn rand just chose a different name for it because sartre had taken existentialism already

I mean, holy sh-it.

That's one of the wrongest wrongs in the history of wrongs.

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Re: Show Library: Pseudointellectual Books That, in Fact, Suck [Re: Ali shmali]
#8402191 - 12/12/06 10:43 PM

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I read a bit of Kerouac and thought a 14 year old could have written it.

his style does come off like that but no way the content could come from a 14 year old.

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Re: Show Library: Pseudointellectual Books That, in Fact, Suck [Re: peritonlogon]
#8402226 - 12/12/06 10:46 PM

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And, Keroac should have used an editor.

I'm not a big Truman Capote fan, but he had one of the all-time best quotes about literature after he read On The Road for the first time.....

"This is not writing. This is typing."

--Scott

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Re: Show Library: Pseudointellectual Books That, in Fact, Suck [Re: Jeff W]
#8406078 - 12/13/06 05:48 AM

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Catcher in the Rye makes me want to vomit.

agree, but doubt you can call salinger pseudo intellectual

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Steinbeck

WTF? Steinbeck rules.

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Re: Show Library: Pseudointellectual Books That, in Fact, Suck [Re: fish2plus2]
#8406091 - 12/13/06 05:50 AM

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I have to disagree about Poe. He is one of my favorites. Youve gotta listen to The Raven read by Christopher Walken.

hah. Reminds me of when I heard A Christmas Carol narrated by Patrick Stewart. You're right, Poe rules. Everyone knows the Raven, but those of you that doubt Poe's greatness should check out The Bells. We had to bring in what we considered to be a great poem one day and when everyone else brought some Robert Frost [censored] I brought this bad boy in.

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Re: Show Library: Pseudointellectual Books That, in Fact, Suck [Re: Stagger_Lee]
#8406122 - 12/13/06 05:56 AM

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Stephen Hawkings "A Brief History of Time". It takes all of about two chapters to lose most readers - yet it is supposed to be *the* book to explain astrophysics to the rest of us.

Disagree. Read this as a sophomore in high school with 1/2 yr of calc and physics under my belt. I got a ton out of it. There were a lot of parts I didn't get right away, but I had people to discuss it with and ask questions. This book is not pseudointellectual, it is intellectual. You don't pick it up and expect it to not be challenging. And besides, I doubt this is what op had in mind.

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Re: Show Library: Pseudointellectual Books That, in Fact, Suck [Re: JaBlue]
#8406214 - 12/13/06 06:40 AM

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I have to disagree about Poe. He is one of my favorites. Youve gotta listen to The Raven read by Christopher Walken.

hah. Reminds me of when I heard A Christmas Carol narrated by Patrick Stewart. You're right, Poe rules. Everyone knows the Raven, but those of you that doubt Poe's greatness should check out The Bells. We had to bring in what we considered to be a great poem one day and when everyone else brought some Robert Frost [censored] I brought this bad boy in.

I never heard of this, and just read it. Fantastic.

Poe writes such driving, intense poems. If they were made human, they'd be Marvin Hagler.

Did your class like it?

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Re: Show Library: Pseudointellectual Books That, in Fact, Suck [Re: JaBlue]
#8406385 - 12/13/06 07:22 AM

wrt Joyce:

I've never read anything of his, but my english lit friend who is the most studious person i know and massively knowledgable about all things lit is a huge fan. I asked him about reading some Joyce stuff and he said that Ulysses is pretty much widely regarded as the greatest book ever written by the high minded intellectual types in the english crit world. He needless to say agrees. When i asked him if i should read it, he said sure, but that i won't really get that much out of it because it's so referential and complex and i won't understand a lot of it.

This kid is probably the smartest kid i've come across at my college and a definetely amongst the most pretensious (and i go to a really pretensious school) but I believe him. The kid really knows his [censored].

I know there is some Derrida quote about Ulysses being the only book that can't be deconstructed because of how tightly it's written.

So as far as Joyce goes, there is a very good chance that the people who just think it's boring simply don't get it, not neccessarily a dig at those people, but that his work for the most part is aimed at an incredibly well read audience. I'm not part of that.

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Re: Show Library: Pseudointellectual Books That, in Fact, Suck [Re: challenger84]
#8406604 - 12/13/06 08:12 AM

why read books when you could be jerking off

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Re: Show Library: Pseudointellectual Books That, in Fact, Suck [Re: TheFaucet]
#8406818 - 12/13/06 08:51 AM

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why read books when you could be jerking off

Good Point

I think some people are missing something; what the book was created to do....

Someone wrote (Sam I think) that Harry Potter was a childish book written with made up words for young adults. This is completely true and I am still amazed and disturbed by older people who read this searching for some meaning (if you want fantasy that tries for higher themes LOTR and CS Lewis.... or imo just avoid most fantasy)

Keeping this idea of a books purpose someone mentioned Letter to A Christian Nation as a so so book. Incorrect. For its short length it meets its proper purpose as a condensed statement of atheist attitudes toward religion. Letter will never be a great classical read nor should it... but if you're looking for a well argued book thats something of a giant OP-Ed its one of the best in that category.

I also want to point out that though I dont mind Shakespeare I can understand why people hate him... read with a modern vocab his work sucks. Yes, he should be appreciated as a great author. Yes, he should be studied in the college level very thoroughly by anyone interested in writing. But it's hard to imagine anyone today just picking up one of his plays or a collection of poetry for fun... I think that many people who claim to do this are indeed pretending to be intellectuals.

Also...

WHERE IS DAN BROWN IN THIS!!! HIS BOOKS SUCK AND HE TOOK THE CONCEPT OF "CODE" FROM THE WRITERS OF "HOLY BLOOD HOLY GRAIL"... TOOK MOST OF THEIR RESEARCH AS WELL.... AND HE WRITES LIKE A 4 YEAR OLD TALKS! ITS NOT COOL TO POINT AT THE LAST SUPPER AND CLAIM TO SEE THINGS OR TALK ABOUT CHURCH CONSPIRACY BECAUSE A BAD AUTHOR WROTE A POPULAR BOOK.
/end rant

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