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munkey
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When to move up NL50? (How to emigrate to SSNL)
      #7843750 - 10/29/06 11:59 AM

A homage to Fimbulwinters Legendary Post Part 2

This has been sitting on my laptop semi-done for quite some time, I forgot all about it but since I'm breaking into NL100 I thought I'll finish putting it together as it might help players in a similar situation. This compilation "puts the meat on the bones" so to speak by listing related links on 2+2 of this post from fimbulwinter when asked by a poster when to move up stakes.

I should make clear I use this as a guide to areas of my game to improve and check are half decent before considering a change in stakes. Confidence in your ability and a winning track record are most important and are addressed in BalugaWhale's
c/t: "Making big monies with the Whale "post.


Part1 Moving from NL25 -> NL50 is here

Quote:


First off you should never view it as a quantum leap kinda thing.
just take little shots when you feel comfortable,
have the money and are good enough. here's a hand waving yardstick:


try 100NL when:

- you're confident playing draws
- you can spot good semibluff opportunities
- you can lay down AA/KK unimproved
- you're attacking the blinds in easy steal situations
- you have 1200+

Fim





1. You're confident playing draws

Suited Connectors, Implied Odds, and You (Theory/Math)
Fim's 25NL Adventure/Pilgrimage
Calculating EV Part II: Making an All-In Raise
When we're a favourite over AA

"No Limit hold'em Theory and Practice"(NLHTAP) - Playing strong draws on the flop p.163
"Harrington on Holdem" (HOH Volume 1) Part4: Pot odds and hand analysis


Well dwellers have also been asked about draws, the following contain draw questions:
(Open link then search page for "draw" in your browser)
A summary of The Well: El Diablo
4_2_it in the Well
The Well: EMcWilliams
The Well: yvesaint
Mosuavea in The Well poker content
Jam in the well
The Well: goofyballer
(Thanks to Dory and linuxrocks for the well summaries)


2. You can spot good semibluff opportunities

Some of the previous links (e.g. fims NL25 Pilgrimage) contain information about draws and semibluffing.

Betting draws
Feeling lost playing flush draws OOP
might be standard or not (draw nl200) (MSNL Big Jim's thoughts)
Painfully Common Spot: Stealing Pots

Theory of Poker (TOP) chapter 11 & 12 concern semibluffs

3. You can lay down AA/KK unimproved

the so-called Baluga Theorem
the AA rule (discussion of not laying down AA/KK UI)


4. You're attacking the blinds in easy steal situations

Pooh-Bah Redux: Blind Stealing
Taking stealing the blinds to next level( technically not an easy steal)

5. You have 1200+ doubloons

I'll repeat what I said in Part 1 here. I believe he meant start taking shots at NL100 when you have $1200 as the commonly accepted bankroll for your limit is x20 buyins. I'll re-refer you to AJ's " Bankroll and Moving Up " article.

Many of the links are in the SSNL Master Sticky and some in the embryonic Essential selection of uNL -if you haven't read it or haven't read it for some time I suggest you do as there's a HUGE amount of good stuff in there. I have no doubt my searches missed some good posts and some of these I've linked may not be optimal but every thread I've presented here I've learnt something important from.

Many thanks again to all the posters that contributed to make this compilation possible(kazana too for proofreading) and of course fimbulwinter himself.

munkey


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Sir Winalot
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Re: When to move up NL50? (How to emigrate to SSNL) [Re: munkey]
      #7844207 - 10/29/06 01:36 PM

Not one more great post by you munkey! Nice hand.

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Re: When to move up NL50? (How to emigrate to SSNL) [Re: Sir Winalot]
      #7844283 - 10/29/06 01:44 PM

nice job, it takes a lot of time to get all these links together

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Re: When to move up NL50? (How to emigrate to SSNL) [Re: Sir Winalot]
      #7844291 - 10/29/06 01:45 PM

Nice post. Bookmarked

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Re: When to move up NL50? (How to emigrate to SSNL) [Re: Combusted]
      #7844357 - 10/29/06 01:52 PM

welcome to the sticky...again.

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Re: When to move up NL50? (How to emigrate to SSNL) [Re: EMc]
      #7844905 - 10/29/06 02:52 PM

*bookmarked*

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Re: When to move up NL50? (How to emigrate to SSNL) [Re: munkey]
      #7845036 - 10/29/06 03:06 PM

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Re: When to move up NL50? (How to emigrate to SSNL) [Re: munkey]
      #7845099 - 10/29/06 03:12 PM

Thanks alot! I've been using the "When to move up from 25NL" post and I'm sure I'll use this when I'm ready to move up to 100NL!

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Re: When to move up NL50? (How to emigrate to SSNL) [Re: Rochus]
      #7846209 - 10/29/06 05:12 PM

very sweet post munkey. I was also wondering when you were going to post this after mentioning it in the past. Shame I cashed my 'roll out and started rebuilding it again as I think this would of given me the confidence to move up.

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Re: When to move up NL50? (How to emigrate to SSNL) [Re: munkey]
      #7846849 - 10/29/06 06:13 PM

So I currently play NL$10 and have a bank roll of $450(did have $16.5 more but got tempted by a damn $10k gtd. donkament and played like a fish.). I was going to wait a couple of weeks or so until I hit the full 20 buy ins for NL $25 but after reading this I'm thinking maybe I should start playing NL$25, and keep playing unless I drop down below $400. Does this sound ok?

Robin


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