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**OFFICIAL** Mansion free Steelers bet promo thread
      #7186745 - 09/05/06 11:33 PM

0) The Mansion promo has closed.

The promotion is no longer available. Best of luck to those who did get in on the promotion

1) All posts relating to the Mansion promotional offer (free $1000 bet) should go in this thread.

Anything else will be locked and/or deleted.

2) Yes, the promotion is real.

Seriously. Its real. Not a scam.

3) The promotion is detailed on Mansion's site.

Hit www.mansion.com and click the "home button". You'll see the promo link right near the top. Look for this image:

4) Critical summary of the promotion is as follows:

Bet $1100 on the Steelers pointspread (currently PK for pick meaning no points laid or given) through the Mansion Sports Book. If you win, you win (+$1000). If you lose, Mansion refunds your money in 1-3 days. So after the game (and this 1-3 day period for the refund), depending on the outcome, you'll either have $2100 in your account (win) or $1100 (lose).

5) Mansion will cover your Neteller instacash fees if you go through their site for the instacash.

But not if you instacash to Neteller and then pay Mansion. Do the instacash through Mansion. Their live chat support is very helpful if you need assistance.

6) If you want to hedge to guarantee yourself a payday, you are likely costing yourself EV.

However that doesn't mean its wrong, or right. But if you do want to do so, the best option is to go to your favorite low-juice Sports Book besides Mansion - I'd reccommend Pinnacle - and bet the opposite side of the line. Right now, the best option I've seen is betting Miami moneyline on Pinny for -101.

To hedge in this way: So after signing up at Mansion and making your free $1100 bet, you would roll to Pinnacle and bet $502.49 on the Dolphins moneyline at -101. This would result in a balanced hedge of a profit of $497.51 regardless of the outcome of the game.

Of course, if you wanted to hedge to one side you could do so: for example if you thought Pitt was more likely to win you could hedge $404 at Pinnacle which would result in a profit of $400 if Miami won and a profit of $596 if Pitt won, etc.

If you'd like to calculate arbitrage lines for other options besides this one, I recommend ArbCentral.com where you can click their "Freeplay Calculator" and do your own arb calcs.

7) the previous thread on this has a ton of good info

But has gotten really, really large, so I started this one. If you want to find the previous thread, you can find it here: Another Mansion Free Bet.

8) Yes, the promotion is still real.

There is no "catch". This is a promotion Mansion is doing to entice new accounts to open, and judging from the amount of buzz here and elsewhere on the net, its working well. if you think about it in these terms, most sites offer 10% signup bonuses. If Mansion were to offload all of their own action (by balancing their book by placing a very large series of wagers on Miami) they would lose approximately 10% per player (the juice they'd pay on offloading the action). I'm not saying Mansion is going to do this, but they could. So in that regard, this really isn't some far-fetched crazy promotion: its just a very clever way for Mansion to create free publicity, and its a great way to make a nice little payday (or take a shot at a free larger payday)

9) Should I hedge?

Hedging is definately -EV here if you assume the line is correctly set. Only you can answer if hedging is right for you or not. Personally speaking, if you're looking for my own opinion, I hedged.

10) Is it still available? When does it close?

Nobody here knows for sure. If it's still up on the Mansion site, you're good. If not, you can check with their support, but probably not. No one knows when Mansion will pull this in between now and game time, so if you want to do it, get in there. Odds are it probably closes Thursday but who knows.



Anything that I missed, please feel free to chime in.


Edited by Performify (09/06/06 11:25 PM)


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Re: **OFFICIAL** Mansion free Steelers bet promo thread [Re: Performify]
      #7186906 - 09/05/06 11:45 PM

That's some good modding there Performify.

I'd only add that for the "is it still available?" crowd, nobody here knows. If it's still up on the Mansion site (where Performify directs you to), you're good. If not, you can check with their support, but probably not. No one knows when Mansion will pull this in between now and game time, so if you want to do it, get in there.

Edited by Levarkin (09/05/06 11:51 PM)


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Re: **OFFICIAL** Mansion free Steelers bet promo thread [Re: Performify]
      #7187011 - 09/05/06 11:55 PM

if you still don't get it, step-by-step instructions

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Re: **OFFICIAL** Mansion free Steelers bet promo thread [Re: MyTurn2Raise]
      #7187327 - 09/06/06 12:24 AM

regarding the insta-cash option. for someone with a brand new neteller account, is there anyway to get around the $750 limit?

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Re: **OFFICIAL** Mansion free Steelers bet promo thread [Re: chalk7]
      #7187504 - 09/06/06 12:42 AM

it appears u have to first clear $1500 of insta-cash transactions, before u can raise your limit. so everyone who is using insta-cash has used it for $1500+?

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Re: **OFFICIAL** Mansion free Steelers bet promo thread [Re: chalk7]
      #7187545 - 09/06/06 12:46 AM

chalk your question is very important id like to know the answer too im surprised nobody is answering but you could email neteller. since u wouldnt be doing an insta transfer to neteller youd be doing it via mansion. ask them. since nobody is replying

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Re: **OFFICIAL** Mansion free Steelers bet promo thread [Re: ImWeakTight@UCLA]
      #7187591 - 09/06/06 12:50 AM

the information on my 2nd post came from live help at neteller.

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Re: **OFFICIAL** Mansion free Steelers bet promo thread [Re: chalk7]
      #7187631 - 09/06/06 12:53 AM

You could always do two instacash transfers, it just may not make it in time. I don't know about limits, I'm a VIP

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Re: **OFFICIAL** Mansion free Steelers bet promo thread [Re: chalk7]
      #7187677 - 09/06/06 12:57 AM

I'm having this same problem msyelf. I just created a Neteller account, and probably had the same discussions as you had with the phone support. I didn't see any way around the instacash limit (bank wire seems like it might get the money there in time). I'm trying to get around it by transferring money from Party-Neteller-Mansion as fast as I can. Hopefully, my money makes it there in time.

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Re: **OFFICIAL** Mansion free Steelers bet promo thread [Re: Performify]
      #7187685 - 09/06/06 12:57 AM

*thumbs up*

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Re: **OFFICIAL** Mansion free Steelers bet promo thread [Re: ImWeakTight@UCLA]
      #7187732 - 09/06/06 01:01 AM

I did not use InstCash so I can't answer.

i'd imagine if you can't raise your InstCash limits in time, which it looks like you can't, the best option would be to FedEx, wire, or Western Union the cash to mansion. Western Union fees wouldn't eat in to your profits enough to justify missing this opportunity.


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Re: **OFFICIAL** Mansion free Steelers bet promo thread [Re: Performify]
      #7187869 - 09/06/06 01:14 AM

also, peer to peer transfers work also. 1.9% fee. i am trying to get a few friends set up and it looks like this will be the way we go.

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Re: **OFFICIAL** Mansion free Steelers bet promo thread [Re: chalk7]
      #7188052 - 09/06/06 01:30 AM

only if that friends account is certified and yr not doing instcash.
u can not transfer instacash funds


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Re: **OFFICIAL** Mansion free Steelers bet promo thread [Re: CharlieDontSurf]
      #7188101 - 09/06/06 01:34 AM

How long do I have to do this?

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Re: **OFFICIAL** Mansion free Steelers bet promo thread [Re: Rhett]
      #7188140 - 09/06/06 01:38 AM

"How long do I have to do this?"

Hmm, so the "tl;dr" crossover is 13 posts. Now we know.

Check my post. Mansion has been saying that they'll pull it at some point, but no one here knows when.


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Re: **OFFICIAL** Mansion free Steelers bet promo thread [Re: Levarkin]
      #7188997 - 09/06/06 03:18 AM

I made the bet last Thursday when the line was at Steelers -4.5. Am I screwed since all the lines have moved? Is it possible for meto hedge somewhere now?

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Re: **OFFICIAL** Mansion free Steelers bet promo thread [Re: G-Diddy20]
      #7189270 - 09/06/06 03:52 AM

You're not screwed. You just don't have quite as much EV in your bet as someone who bet it as a pick 'em. (Like me.)

Anyway, I just made the bet on Mansion right now. I actually would have been tempted to make a recreational bet here just to have a rooting interest for the first NFL game of the season, so this is perfect for me. Now, having $1000 riding on the game is actually +EV!


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Re: **OFFICIAL** Mansion free Steelers bet promo thread [Re: iggymcfly]
      #7189410 - 09/06/06 04:15 AM

OK, they just seemed to have taken it off:

************
Sportsbook Promotions

Pittsburgh Steelers 2006 Superbowl Champs Promotion

MANSION is proud to announce the success of our season-opening NFL Cash-Back promotion, which has given five thousand of our Members a unique opportunity to place bets on Pittsburgh Steelers of USD 1,100 to win USD 1,000 (or currency equivalent) in their season opener at home against an in form Miami Dolphins.

Betting on the promotion has now ended after reaching full subscription with 5,000 MANSION Members having taken part, wagering USD 5.5 Million in the cash-back offer on the Superbowl Champions, Pittsburgh Steelers to defeat Miami Dolphins this Thursday September 7th.

If the Steelers lose or fail to cover the point spread, MANSION will refund qualified Member individual bets of USD 1,100 (or currency equivalent) - presenting one of the most compelling season launching promotions by a betting company, with no strings attached and no rollover requirement. Naturally, should the reigning Super Bowl Champions beat Miami and cover the spread, MANSION will pay our Members over 5 Million in total winnings.

On paper, everything is there for the Steelers to become the ninth repeat champion in league history (and third in team history), but speculation on their 2006 regular season debut has been heightened, having struggled through a troubling off-season.

The Pittsburgh Steelers Promotion is further proof that MANSION is the home of choice and reward for our Members, and it "pays to belong” to take full advantage of the many best-in-value promotions and offers in sports wagering and first class member services.

MANSION wishes the best of luck to our Members who are participating in this promotion.
*************************


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Re: **OFFICIAL** Mansion free Steelers bet promo thread [Re: iggymcfly]
      #7189413 - 09/06/06 04:18 AM

i have a question. im wondering if the promotion is still valid if i choose to make a bet of say $5,500. this means if i win my bet i will get $5,000 back (along with my wager) and if i lose i get $5,500 back. or is it just valid if you make only a $1,100 wager? thanks...

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Re: **OFFICIAL** Mansion free Steelers bet promo thread [Re: HesseJam]
      #7189445 - 09/06/06 04:26 AM

oh wow, thats dumb.

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Re: **OFFICIAL** Mansion free Steelers bet promo thread [Re: b33nz]
      #7189653 - 09/06/06 05:06 AM

anyone like the idea of a teaser hedge for the people that got pit at -4.5 that don't feel like gambling the full $1,000 on massively reduced EV? This is what I was thinking.
Pinnacle 7 point teaser on Miami +8 and Seattle +1 at -120 since I think a tie in either event guarantees a push. So:

$1100-$1000 PIT -4.5
$545.46-$454.55 Miami +8 SEA +1
If PIT fails to cover, possible DET +6(+104) $218.53-$227.27

if PIT wins by 5,6, or 7 win the Mansion $1000 and still have a chance to win the teaser or further hedge the seattle game with a $218.53 bet on DET +6 for guaranteed $1227.27
if PIT wins by 8 I win $1000 and push my teaser
If PIT wins by 9+ I win $454.54
If Miami covers the 4.5 I can let the teaser ride or hedge for at least a guranteed $227.27 on DET +6 (and win the teaser and win/push the second hedge if Seattle wins by 1-6 for either $227.27 or $681.82)

However, if miami covers and DET wins by 1 w/o hedging the teaser you break even and if DET wins by 2+ then you lose $545.46.

I mean if you were going to hedge anyway and worst case miami covers so you hedge on det and profit the safe $227.27, that money is still greater than $0 if you let the pit bet ride and lost. Any thoughts?


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Re: **OFFICIAL** Mansion free Steelers bet promo thread [Re: HesseJam]
      #7189712 - 09/06/06 05:18 AM

Quote:

OK, they just seemed to have taken it off:

************
Sportsbook Promotions

Pittsburgh Steelers 2006 Superbowl Champs Promotion

MANSION is proud to announce the success of our season-opening NFL Cash-Back promotion, which has given five thousand of our Members a unique opportunity to place bets on Pittsburgh Steelers of USD 1,100 to win USD 1,000 (or currency equivalent) in their season opener at home against an in form Miami Dolphins.

Betting on the promotion has now ended after reaching full subscription with 5,000 MANSION Members having taken part, wagering USD 5.5 Million in the cash-back offer on the Superbowl Champions, Pittsburgh Steelers to defeat Miami Dolphins this Thursday September 7th.

If the Steelers lose or fail to cover the point spread, MANSION will refund qualified Member individual bets of USD 1,100 (or currency equivalent) - presenting one of the most compelling season launching promotions by a betting company, with no strings attached and no rollover requirement. Naturally, should the reigning Super Bowl Champions beat Miami and cover the spread, MANSION will pay our Members over 5 Million in total winnings.

On paper, everything is there for the Steelers to become the ninth repeat champion in league history (and third in team history), but speculation on their 2006 regular season debut has been heightened, having struggled through a troubling off-season.

The Pittsburgh Steelers Promotion is further proof that MANSION is the home of choice and reward for our Members, and it "pays to belong” to take full advantage of the many best-in-value promotions and offers in sports wagering and first class member services.

MANSION wishes the best of luck to our Members who are participating in this promotion.
*************************




awesome...I just placed my bet 4 hours ago....i'm a lucky donk


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Re: **OFFICIAL** Mansion free Steelers bet promo thread [Re: MyTurn2Raise]
      #7189766 - 09/06/06 05:30 AM

FCK

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Re: **OFFICIAL** Mansion free Steelers bet promo thread [Re: cardsharkk04]
      #7189862 - 09/06/06 06:06 AM

Holy poopers!
I had just placed my wager (and the promo was up)...about 5 minutes later I saw this notice and nearly freaked.
A quick live chat (saved to email) with their awesome CS rep confirmed that I am definitely covered by the promo.
Whew!


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Re: **OFFICIAL** Mansion free Steelers bet promo thread [Re: steelbase]
      #7189872 - 09/06/06 06:08 AM

Quote:

anyone like the idea of a teaser hedge for the people that got pit at -4.5 that don't feel like gambling the full $1,000 on massively reduced EV? This is what I was thinking.
Pinnacle 7 point teaser on Miami +8 and Seattle +1 at -120 since I think a tie in either event guarantees a push. So:

$1100-$1000 PIT -4.5
$545.46-$454.55 Miami +8 SEA +1
If PIT fails to cover, possible DET +6(+104) $218.53-$227.27

if PIT wins by 5,6, or 7 win the Mansion $1000 and still have a chance to win the teaser or further hedge the seattle game with a $218.53 bet on DET +6 for guaranteed $1227.27
if PIT wins by 8 I win $1000 and push my teaser
If PIT wins by 9+ I win $454.54
If Miami covers the 4.5 I can let the teaser ride or hedge for at least a guranteed $227.27 on DET +6 (and win the teaser and win/push the second hedge if Seattle wins by 1-6 for either $227.27 or $681.82)

However, if miami covers and DET wins by 1 w/o hedging the teaser you break even and if DET wins by 2+ then you lose $545.46.

I mean if you were going to hedge anyway and worst case miami covers so you hedge on det and profit the safe $227.27, that money is still greater than $0 if you let the pit bet ride and lost. Any thoughts?




this is interesting cuz u can actually double hedhe yr hedge if mia covers thus guaranteeing u get some money


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Re: **OFFICIAL** Mansion free Steelers bet promo thread [Re: HesseJam]
      #7189896 - 09/06/06 06:18 AM

I wonder how many of those 5000 are from 2+2. At least half I'd say.

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Re: **OFFICIAL** Mansion free Steelers bet promo thread [Re: HesseJam]
      #7189898 - 09/06/06 06:19 AM

i was just about to ship the money from neteller when the promotion disapeared.

bad beat


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Re: **OFFICIAL** Mansion free Steelers bet promo thread [Re: CharlieDontSurf]
      #7189899 - 09/06/06 06:19 AM

though i think i would hedge NE on the second game

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Re: **OFFICIAL** Mansion free Steelers bet promo thread [Re: splashpot]
      #7189905 - 09/06/06 06:20 AM

Quote:

I wonder how many of those 5000 are from 2+2. At least half I'd say.




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Re: **OFFICIAL** Mansion free Steelers bet promo thread [Re: CharlieDontSurf]
      #7189988 - 09/06/06 06:52 AM

i was actually deciding between taking the pats for -2 or so at home against the seahawks getting +1. The reason I like the Seahawks here is because if miami covers I will most likely hedge the teaser to ensure not losing the $546. I feel the +1/+6 spread of the seahawks/lions has greater chance to to win both teaser and hedge since detroit being a much better team at home than +9/-2 of the pats/bills game which feels more likely a blowout. Either way, I'm rooting for a steelers 17-10 win first

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Re: **OFFICIAL** Mansion free Steelers bet promo thread [Re: steelbase]
      #7190334 - 09/06/06 08:40 AM

Damn, damn, damn, why does it take Party a week to cash out money so I can load it into my Neteller account? This makes me angry.

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Mansion withdrawals, faxing/emailing IDs, etc [Re: Performify]
      #7191684 - 09/06/06 11:50 AM

Is there a special email you new Mansion account holders used to send your ID info or was it just the standard customerservice@mansion.com address?

And what exactly did you send? Copy of license and maybe your Mansion account number/user ID - anything else?

Thanks,

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Re: Mansion withdrawals, faxing/emailing IDs, etc [Re: Luke]
      #7192548 - 09/06/06 01:09 PM

this blow, i just heard of this promo. i just shipped 1100 from party to neteller as we speak and was getting ready to set up a mansion account. damnit.

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Re: **OFFICIAL** Mansion free Steelers bet promo thread [Re: Shrug]
      #7193460 - 09/06/06 02:32 PM

That email freaked me out. I placed my bet last night and saw the email this morning. Glad that I made the cutoff though.

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Re: **OFFICIAL** Mansion free Steelers bet promo thread [Re: CharlieDontSurf]
      #7193474 - 09/06/06 02:33 PM

Quote:

Quote:

I wonder how many of those 5000 are from 2+2. At least half I'd say.




3 from me lol




this is the gayest [censored] ever lol

I hope they seize all your funds lol


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Re: Mansion withdrawals, faxing/emailing IDs, etc [Re: Luke]
      #7193749 - 09/06/06 02:56 PM

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Is there a special email you new Mansion account holders used to send your ID info or was it just the standard customerservice@mansion.com address?

And what exactly did you send? Copy of license and maybe your Mansion account number/user ID - anything else?




I scanned my driver's license and sent it to the above email address, along with my account information - I did this the day I signed up (last Wednesday), and fully expect to be able to cash out immediately after the bet is settled.


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Re: **OFFICIAL** Mansion free Steelers bet promo thread [Re: Thremp]
      #7193851 - 09/06/06 03:05 PM

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I wonder how many of those 5000 are from 2+2. At least half I'd say.




3 from me lol




this is the gayest [censored] ever lol

I hope they seize all your funds lol




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Re: **OFFICIAL** Mansion free Steelers bet promo thread [Re: CharlieDontSurf]
      #7194466 - 09/06/06 03:51 PM

Posting about it here's genius. I'm sure Mansion reads these forums and will try to see if they can find out who you are now. I had a similar experience with Party one time where they read a post on FCP saying I'd used my mom's account for a tourney and held up her cashout for three weeks.

Oh, and I have to say that is a little nerve-racking about the timing on the promo closing for Mansion. I'm pretty sure I checked that the promotion was still there after I bet, but 30 minutes after I posted saying I'd made the bet, someone else posted here saying the promotion was closed. I'm probably not going to go through support to check it, but it looks like I made it just under the wire.

Edit: Maybe I'll send them an e-mail. I don't want them going back on it if Pitt loses.

Edited by iggymcfly (09/06/06 03:52 PM)


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Re: **OFFICIAL** Mansion free Steelers bet promo thread [Re: CharlieDontSurf]
      #7194474 - 09/06/06 03:52 PM

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I wonder how many of those 5000 are from 2+2. At least half I'd say.




3 from me lol




this is the gayest [censored] ever lol

I hope they seize all your funds lol




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Re: **OFFICIAL** Mansion free Steelers bet promo thread [Re: iggymcfly]
      #7194488 - 09/06/06 03:53 PM

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Posting about it here's genius. I'm sure Mansion reads these forums and will try to see if they can find out who you are now. I had a similar experience with Party one time where they read a post on FCP saying I'd used my mom's account for a tourney and held up her cashout for three weeks.

Oh, and I have to say that is a little nerve-racking about the timing on the promo closing for Mansion. I'm pretty sure I checked that the promotion was still there after I bet, but 30 minutes after I posted saying I'd made the bet, someone else posted here saying the promotion was closed. I'm probably not going to go through support to check it, but it looks like I made it just under the wire.




Yes..I'm sure Mansions crack team will be able to figure out from my SN the identities of myself and two other random people who don't even live in the same state as me and who I've never even met...idiot.

Edited by CharlieDontSurf (09/06/06 03:56 PM)


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Re: **OFFICIAL** Mansion free Steelers bet promo thread [Re: CharlieDontSurf]
      #7194536 - 09/06/06 03:58 PM

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figure out from my SN the identities of myself and two other random people who don't even live in the same state as me and who I've never even met.




wtf? Do you run an identify theft ring or something?


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Re: **OFFICIAL** Mansion free Steelers bet promo thread [Re: PLOlover]
      #7194576 - 09/06/06 04:01 PM

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figure out from my SN the identities of myself and two other random people who don't even live in the same state as me and who I've never even met.




wtf? Do you run an identify theft ring or something?




Are people on here really that dumb that they can't understand what that means?

I was the banker, the bag man, etc etc...found two people i know and trusted who didnt have $1100 to wager...and loaned them the money in exchange for the majority of the winnings if the Steelers covered


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Re: **OFFICIAL** Mansion free Steelers bet promo thread [Re: CharlieDontSurf]
      #7194755 - 09/06/06 04:15 PM

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I was the banker, the bag man, etc etc...found two people i know and trusted who didnt have $1100 to wager...and loaned them the money in exchange for the majority of the winnings if the Steelers covered




Oh, too bad, I need a new SSN. lol. Sorry, but you did say you had never even met them. Can I borrow some money?


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Re: **OFFICIAL** Mansion free Steelers bet promo thread [Re: PLOlover]
      #7194782 - 09/06/06 04:17 PM

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I was the banker, the bag man, etc etc...found two people i know and trusted who didnt have $1100 to wager...and loaned them the money in exchange for the majority of the winnings if the Steelers covered




Oh, too bad, I need a new SSN. lol. Sorry, but you did say you had never even met them. Can I borrow some money?




I have loaned several thousand dollars to people I have never met IRL over my poker career. Never been stiffed yet.


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Re: **OFFICIAL** Mansion free Steelers bet promo thread [Re: CharlieDontSurf]
      #7195147 - 09/06/06 04:45 PM

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Posting about it here's genius. I'm sure Mansion reads these forums and will try to see if they can find out who you are now. I had a similar experience with Party one time where they read a post on FCP saying I'd used my mom's account for a tourney and held up her cashout for three weeks.

Oh, and I have to say that is a little nerve-racking about the timing on the promo closing for Mansion. I'm pretty sure I checked that the promotion was still there after I bet, but 30 minutes after I posted saying I'd made the bet, someone else posted here saying the promotion was closed. I'm probably not going to go through support to check it, but it looks like I made it just under the wire.




Yes..I'm sure Mansions crack team will be able to figure out from my SN the identities of myself and two other random people who don't even live in the same state as me and who I've never even met...idiot.




Man, I hope they bust you. People like you are the reason places like Mansion stop running these promos.

I'll bet you're the ass that knocks over kids at the ballgame to get 10 free gloves on "free glove day".

EDIT: I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you really found three friends and loaned them the $1,100 for a fee.

Edited by DING-DONG YO (09/06/06 04:57 PM)


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Re: **OFFICIAL** Mansion free Steelers bet promo thread [Re: MyTurn2Raise]
      #7195241 - 09/06/06 04:51 PM

wow it doesnt say anything in their statement about if u did pk, what is this!

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Re: **OFFICIAL** Mansion free Steelers bet promo thread [Re: DING-DONG YO]
      #7195256 - 09/06/06 04:53 PM

Cracking on Charlie isn't the point of this thread, regardless of what you think of what he did...

Any further such posts attacking him will be deleted.


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Re: **OFFICIAL** Mansion free Steelers bet promo thread [Re: DING-DONG YO]
      #7195310 - 09/06/06 04:57 PM

Mansion runs these promos for many reasons, but principally for the buzz that it creates. I imagine that they are counting on repeat betting, win or lose. With any repeat bet, they win with the juice.

Every site offers a referral bonus. Some of the best marketing is from friends who make referrals.

Edited by Grasshopp3r (09/06/06 04:59 PM)


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Re: **OFFICIAL** Mansion free Steelers bet promo thread [Re: Performify]
      #7195336 - 09/06/06 04:59 PM

Ding-Dong..I would strongly disagree. If those two people who I loaned the money to win..
A:) they may choose to keep their winnings albiet meager in the mansion account to bet on other games etc
B:) they now have open Mansion sports book/casino/poker accounts which they never would have had without the promo. In the future if they ever felt like say betting on the SuperBowl etc...guess where they would probably bet it---YEP..at the only online sportsbook account they have-MANSION.

I created two more future customers for Mansion.

It would be far different if I had created two "fake" neteller and mansion accounts that were in fact only used by me.

And I'd also wager that if they do stop running thses programs it will have more to do with wether or not people are staying and using their book or simply bonus whoring and immediatly withdrawing all funds after they win or lose...like I would assume a vast majority of 2+2ers will do.


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Re: **OFFICIAL** Mansion free Steelers bet promo thread [Re: CharlieDontSurf]
      #7195397 - 09/06/06 05:03 PM

Thanks for clarifying Charlie. It wasn't clear to me that was what you were talking about before. I edited my other post.

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Re: **OFFICIAL** Mansion free Steelers bet promo thread [Re: CharlieDontSurf]
      #7195445 - 09/06/06 05:06 PM

damn, i would've been all over this.

i would've had to get my brother to split the 1100, because a) i'm a teacher (which should explain everything) b) i usually only bet $50 or so the entire weekend and c) did i mention i'm a teacher??

my luck would've been to empty my checking account on this game, and get locked out at the last minute, and have my $1,100 riding on my most hated team...

now there's a situation..

good luck to all that got in...

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Re: **OFFICIAL** Mansion free Steelers bet promo thread [Re: CharlieDontSurf]
      #7195675 - 09/06/06 05:26 PM

WHAT ABOUT people who have PK bets.

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Re: **OFFICIAL** Mansion free Steelers bet promo thread [Re: ImWeakTight@UCLA]
      #7195719 - 09/06/06 05:29 PM

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WHAT ABOUT people who have PK bets.




Pitts still the favorite in my mind.
How badly do u need that $400-$450??

If not that badly then let it ride.


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Re: **OFFICIAL** Mansion free Steelers bet promo thread [Re: CharlieDontSurf]
      #7195782 - 09/06/06 05:34 PM

no im saying no were in there wording after the promo close does it talk about pk bets it only talks about line bets

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Re: **OFFICIAL** Mansion free Steelers bet promo thread [Re: ImWeakTight@UCLA]
      #7195959 - 09/06/06 05:49 PM

I got screwed- i put the money in yesterday, but wasn't able to contact live chat to place my wager and confirm...so now I still need to go thru with the hassle of sending my drivers license.....and they'll probably try to get me for the netteller instascash fees on part of hte money.

they also have my mailing address, so i can look forward to years of junk mail from them.


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Re: **OFFICIAL** Mansion free Steelers bet promo thread [Re: tedtodd]
      #7196031 - 09/06/06 05:56 PM

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I got screwed- i put the money in yesterday, but wasn't able to contact live chat to place my wager and confirm...so now I still need to go thru with the hassle of sending my drivers license.....and they'll probably try to get me for the netteller instascash fees on part of hte money.

they also have my mailing address, so i can look forward to years of junk mail from them.




Wait....so you needed to confirm the wager with live chat for the promo?


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Re: **OFFICIAL** Mansion free Steelers bet promo thread [Re: Rick305]
      #7196121 - 09/06/06 06:04 PM

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I got screwed- i put the money in yesterday, but wasn't able to contact live chat to place my wager and confirm...so now I still need to go thru with the hassle of sending my drivers license.....and they'll probably try to get me for the netteller instascash fees on part of hte money.

they also have my mailing address, so i can look forward to years of junk mail from them.




Wait....so you needed to confirm the wager with live chat for the promo?




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Re: **OFFICIAL** Mansion free Steelers bet promo thread [Re: MyTurn2Raise]
      #7196130 - 09/06/06 06:04 PM

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Quote:

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I got screwed- i put the money in yesterday, but wasn't able to contact live chat to place my wager and confirm...so now I still need to go thru with the hassle of sending my drivers license.....and they'll probably try to get me for the netteller instascash fees on part of hte money.

they also have my mailing address, so i can look forward to years of junk mail from them.




Wait....so you needed to confirm the wager with live chat for the promo?







no


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Re: **OFFICIAL** Mansion free Steelers bet promo thread [Re: Homer]
      #7196197 - 09/06/06 06:10 PM

Just for peace of mind.

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Re: **OFFICIAL** Mansion free Steelers bet promo thread [Re: splashpot]
      #7197222 - 09/06/06 07:40 PM

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Just for peace of mind.




Exactly. A few guys here had done it early on, and had no problems getting a person on live chat. For some reason I felt some uncertainty about it still being an active promo....but they've confirmed that it was active thru yesterday.

I snooze...i lose.


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Re: **OFFICIAL** Mansion free Steelers bet promo thread [Re: Performify]
      #7197477 - 09/06/06 08:01 PM

For procrastinating hedgers, what's up with SIA offering Miami as a pickem for -125 when Pinny has the moneyline for even money a/o 8pm eastern?

Am I missing something, or does that mean I'm pissing away an extra $125 going with SIA to hedge $500 (kickbacks/bonus notwithstanding)?


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Re: **OFFICIAL** Mansion free Steelers bet promo thread [Re: otctrader]
      #7197972 - 09/06/06 08:43 PM

Some hope for from KC Joyner concerning how Batch will hold up Thurs

Second, while Roethlisberger does make Pittsburgh's vertical passing game better, the Steelers offense does a good job of passing downfield no matter who is under center. Roethlisberger deserves the lion's share of the credit, but some of the credit for Pittsburgh's passing game has to be given to the wide receivers and Whisenhunt's playcalling prowess. Add it all up and you should expect to see Pittsburgh put up its usual share of downfield throws on Thursday night against a fairly weak Miami secondary.


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Re: **OFFICIAL** Mansion free Steelers bet promo thread [Re: CharlieDontSurf]
      #7198001 - 09/06/06 08:45 PM

I cannot get through to Mansion's live chat support for the life of me, so I thought I'd ask here.

I made a neteller deposit. What documentation is required for withdrawing to said Neteller account?


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Re: **OFFICIAL** Mansion free Steelers bet promo thread [Re: pshabi]
      #7198019 - 09/06/06 08:47 PM

drivers lisence/passport/birth certificate/sperm sample/dental records/

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Re: **OFFICIAL** Mansion free Steelers bet promo thread [Re: CharlieDontSurf]
      #7199093 - 09/06/06 10:04 PM

It doesnt say anything about pk picks, it specifically says line bets does that mean whoever did pk is screwed

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Re: **OFFICIAL** Mansion free Steelers bet promo thread [Re: ImWeakTight@UCLA]
      #7199111 - 09/06/06 10:06 PM

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It doesnt say anything about pk picks, it specifically says line bets does that mean whoever did pk is screwed



Next time, make sure you know what you're talking about before you post.


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Re: **OFFICIAL** Mansion free Steelers bet promo thread [Re: splashpot]
      #7199617 - 09/06/06 10:48 PM

^^lol

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Re: **OFFICIAL** Mansion free Steelers bet promo thread [Re: ImWeakTight@UCLA]
      #7199846 - 09/06/06 11:06 PM

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It doesnt say anything about pk picks, it specifically says line bets does that mean whoever did pk is screwed




No, it doesn't mean anyone who did PK is screwed.

PK is a line bet. Its a line bet of +/- zero. Its referred to as a PK, which stands for Pick or Pick'Em.

If you hit shift plus the little squiggly thing with a dot under it on your keyboard, it makes one of these symbols we call a question mark: ?

The addition of one of these symbols at the end of a post where you're asking a question will possibly keep you from getting mocked from Splashpot, who missed the question in your post without the special symbol at the end telling him that it was indeed a question...



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Re: **OFFICIAL** Mansion free Steelers bet promo thread [Re: Performify]
      #7199966 - 09/06/06 11:14 PM

good call performity. One more thing if steelers win my account says 2.1k if steelers lose my account says 1.1k. If game is a tie somehow, my account says 0k. Right?

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Re: **OFFICIAL** Mansion free Steelers bet promo thread [Re: ImWeakTight@UCLA]
      #7200076 - 09/06/06 11:24 PM

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good call performity. One more thing if steelers win my account says 2.1k if steelers lose my account says 1.1k. If game is a tie somehow, my account says 0k. Right?




If the steelers win, your account balance will be $2100 (*)

If the steelers lose, your account balance will be $0 immediately after the game (*) and then 1-3 days later will read $1100 once they refund your money.

If the game ends in a tie, your account balance will be $1100 (*). The game ends in a "push", your original wager is refunded. Just like if you were playing blackjack and tied the dealer. No money changes hands. Same thing would happen to betters who had Steelers -5 and the game ended Pitt 28 Miami 23 (or etc).






(*) = wagers usually take 1-3 hours after the game to be "graded" aka processed.
So if you go in immediately after the game you'll probably see the bet still pending.

Just trying to prepare you (and others) from going "zOMG they are stealing my money!" when the refund doesn't show up right away, and/or the bet is still listed as pending 5 minutes after the game ends...


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Re: **OFFICIAL** Mansion free Steelers bet promo thread [Re: Performify]
      #7200135 - 09/06/06 11:29 PM

oops, my bad, lol.

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Re: **OFFICIAL** Mansion free Steelers bet promo thread [Re: splashpot]
      #7200586 - 09/07/06 12:05 AM

Ok thank you for the explantion, it was much appreciated.

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Re: **OFFICIAL** Mansion free Steelers bet promo thread [Re: Performify]
      #7204772 - 09/07/06 11:06 AM

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If you hit shift plus the little squiggly thing with a dot under it on your keyboard, it makes one of these symbols we call a question mark: ?

The addition of one of these symbols at the end of a post where you're asking a question will possibly keep you from getting mocked from Splashpot, who missed the question in your post without the special symbol at the end telling him that it was indeed a question...





wait what /

i am preesing shift first but i can only get this daigonal line thingie help/


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Re: **OFFICIAL** Mansion free Steelers bet promo thread [Re: BobJoeJim]
      #7217893 - 09/08/06 06:50 AM

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