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cbloom
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$44 bubble flameout critique please
      #4460298 - 01/16/06 01:30 PM

Party $44 , 99 players, 10 pay. On the last hand there are 22 left, I think there were around 30 at the first hand. I'm below average stack the whole time. I'd just been moved to this table, so no solid reads. All the short stacks were pushing when it was folded to them, and everyone was mostly folding around trading blinds. Various hands deleted in the sequence where I just fold preflop or raise with a good hand and all fold. Normally I hide results, but you'd figure them out anyway from the next hand stacks.

Hand 1 : here I actually had a particular read that Button was trying to make weak steals, so I basically was just re-stealing, not playing 44 for value.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t150 (9 handed) internettexasholdem.com

Hero (t2167)
BB (t4748)
UTG (t4480)
UTG+1 (t1344)
MP1 (t1518)
MP2 (t2074)
MP3 (t4295)
CO (t2130)
Button (t1205)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 4, 4.
6 folds, Button raises to t300,
Hero pushes all in,
2 folds.

Final Pot: t525

Results in white below:
No showdown. Hero wins t525.


Hand 2 : hoping to steal the blinds, I was willing to race against Button or SB, would fold to others.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (9 handed) internettexasholdem.com

Hero (t2617)
MP2 (t4598)
MP3 (t4930)
CO (t2288)
Button (t1218)
SB (t980)
BB (t3995)
UTG (t2130)
UTG+1 (t1205)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with 6, 6.
2 folds, Hero raises to t500,
all fold to blinds,
SB pushes all in (t980),
BB folds
Hero calls t480.

Final Pot: t1280

Results in white below:
SB has Ac Ts (one pair, aces).
Hero has 6d 6s (one pair, sixes).
Outcome: SB wins t1280.


Hand 3 : I thought I'd catch CO pushing on a wide range. He had previously been pretty tight, but his M is only 2 now.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (8 handed) internettexasholdem.com

Hero (t1737)
BB (t4598)
UTG (t4930)
UTG+1 (t2636)
MP1 (t2160)
MP2 (t3695)
CO (t712)
Button (t905)

Preflop: Hero is SB with J, A.
6 folds.
CO pushes all in (t712)
Button folds
Hero calls (!?)
BB folds

Results in white below:
Hero has Jh Ah (one pair, fives).
CO has Ad Qs (two pair, queens and fives).
Outcome: CO wins t300.


Hand 4 : now I'm short stacked, 22 players and 10 pay.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (8 handed) internettexasholdem.com

Hero (t1125)
BB (t3798)
UTG (t4630)
UTG+1 (t2336)
MP1 (t3260)
MP2 (t3395)
CO (t1624)
Button (t1205)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 7, Q.
6 folds, Hero (SB) pushes allin !?


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Re: $44 bubble flameout critique please [Re: cbloom]
      #4460339 - 01/16/06 01:37 PM

I don't think there is anything wrong with any of these hands. Looks like it is possible that you weren't aggressive enough in other hands, based on your stack size prior to the push on the last hand.

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Re: $44 bubble flameout critique please [Re: cbloom]
      #4460422 - 01/16/06 01:46 PM

Looks good to me. Just one of those things.

Hand 4 is a crappy position to be in because your opponents probably smell blood in the water and I think you get called by a pretty wide range, but I like the push.


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Re: $44 bubble flameout critique please [Re: odellthurman]
      #4460462 - 01/16/06 01:51 PM

Quote:

Looks like it is possible that you weren't aggressive enough in other hands, based on your stack size prior to the push on the last hand.




After I lost hand 3 my stack was t1125. It went one revolution around before Hand 4 happened. I stole the blinds once in that revolution. I think every other hand during that time someone raised before me. There was one other push chance. I had Q9o UTG+1 with 1325 chips. I had just made my previous all in UTG (with 99, actually not a steal) and was worried about pushing twice in a row right after losing the AJ hand, I thought they might assume I was steaming and call with a much wider range. Also the hand after that, UTG pushed all in on a short stack (1205) and I folded 22 in UTG+2, but I think that's a pretty standard fold.


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Re: $44 bubble flameout critique please [Re: cbloom]
      #4460503 - 01/16/06 01:57 PM

Quote:

Quote:

Looks like it is possible that you weren't aggressive enough in other hands, based on your stack size prior to the push on the last hand.




After I lost hand 3 my stack was t1125. It went one revolution around before Hand 4 happened. I stole the blinds once in that revolution. I think every other hand during that time someone raised before me. There was one other push chance. I had Q9o UTG+1 with 1325 chips. I had just made my previous all in UTG (with 99, actually not a steal) and was worried about pushing twice in a row right after losing the AJ hand, I thought they might assume I was steaming and call with a much wider range. Also the hand after that, UTG pushed all in on a short stack (1205) and I folded 22 in UTG+2, but I think that's a pretty standard fold.




I like the Q9 fold. I strongly dislike the 22 fold.


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Re: $44 bubble flameout critique please [Re: odellthurman]
      #4461530 - 01/16/06 03:53 PM

Quote:


I like the Q9 fold. I strongly dislike the 22 fold.




Really? Call almost my whole stack for a 50/50, with no fold equity and risk of a hand behind? That's pretty non standard I think. If I was in the BB I'd call with 22 I supposed, but not in EP. Is that wrong?


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Re: $44 bubble flameout critique please [Re: cbloom]
      #4462291 - 01/16/06 05:04 PM

Quote:

Quote:


I like the Q9 fold. I strongly dislike the 22 fold.




Really? Call almost my whole stack for a 50/50, with no fold equity and risk of a hand behind? That's pretty non standard I think. If I was in the BB I'd call with 22 I supposed, but not in EP. Is that wrong?




You have no stack. You have only 5.5 times the big blind. If I get that short at that phase of the tournament, I'm pushing in with any pocket pair from any position.


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Re: $44 bubble flameout critique please [Re: odellthurman]
      #4462356 - 01/16/06 05:10 PM

Pushing does not = calling.

I'm sure he would have had no problem open-pushign w/ 22 and he shouldn't, but calling in that spot is no good w/ 22. I'd rather openpush T4o then call off w/ 22.


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Re: $44 bubble flameout critique please [Re: illegit]
      #4462387 - 01/16/06 05:13 PM

Quote:

Pushing does not = calling.

I'm sure he would have had no problem open-pushign w/ 22 and he shouldn't, but calling in that spot is no good w/ 22. I'd rather openpush T4o then call off w/ 22.




That is a good point, and my terminology was poor. Perhaps my analysis was as well. But I am going to call off all of my chips with 5.5 times the big blind with any pocket pair at that point. It definitely is not as good as open pushing, but I don't pass it up at that point in the tourney with that size stack.


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