Terms & Conditions

Internet Magazine

Non–US new players
Get five 2+2 books


Order Books
Book Translations
Forum Login
 
 
Expand All   Collapse All

 Two Plus Two 
2+2 Magazine Forum
Special Sklansky Forum
2+2 Pokercast
About the Forums

 General Poker Discussion 
Beginners Questions
Books and Publications
Televised Poker
News, Views, and Gossip
Brick and Mortar
Home Poker
Beats, Brags, and Variance
Poker Theory
Poker Legislation

 Coaching/Training 
StoxPoker
DeucesCracked

 German Forums 
Poker Allgemein
Strategie: Holdem NL cash
Strategie: Sonstige
Internet/Online
BBV
Small Talk
German Poker News

 French Forums 
Forum francophone
Strategie
BBV (French)

 Limit Texas Hold'em 
High Stakes Limit
Medium Stakes Limit
Small Stakes Limit
Micro Stakes Limit
Mid-High Short-handed
Small Stakes Shorthanded
Limit––>NL

 PL/NL Texas Hold'em 
High Stakes
Medium Stakes
Small Stakes
Micro Stakes
Small-High Full Ring
Micro Full Ring

 Tournament Poker 
Small Stakes MTT
High Stakes MTT
MTT Community
STT Strategy
Tournament Circuit

 Other Poker 
Omaha/8
Omaha High
Stud
Heads Up Poker
Other Poker Games

 General Gambling 
Probability
Psychology
Sports Betting
Other Gambling Games
Entertainment Betting

 Internet Gambling 
Internet Gambling
Internet Bonuses
Affiliates/RakeBack
Software

 2+2 Communities 
Other Other Topics
The Lounge: Discussion+Review
El Diablo's General Discussion
BBV4Life

 Other Topics 
Golf
Sporting Events
Politics
Business, Finance, and Investing
Travel
Science, Math, and Philosophy
Health and Fitness
Student Life
Puzzles and Other Games
Video Games
Laughs or Links!
Computer Technical Help
Sponsored Support Forums
RakebackNetwork
RakeReduction.com
Other Links
Books
Authors
Abbreviations
Calendar
Order Books
Books by Others
Favorite Links
Feedback
Advertising Information
Home
Posting Hints
Privacy Notice
Forum Archives

The 2+2 Forums

Before using this Forum, please refer to the Terms and Conditions (Last modified: 2/26/2006)

Be sure to read the   Two Plus Two Internet Magazine

This is an archive. The main forums are here

These forums are read only.


 
UBB.threads™ Groupee, Inc.

PL/NL Texas Hold'em >> Small Stakes

Pages: 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | >> (show all)
GBP04



Reged: 12/23/05
Posts: 1307
Re: When do move up from NL25? [Re: fimbulwinter]
      #4369304 - 01/06/06 03:06 PM

great post...

may I ask what a good bankroll is to be playing NL cash games? I seem to think 20 buy ins is fine if you are willing to step down?

What is the accepted number?


Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
mosuavea
Mayor of Weaktightville


Reged: 11/05/04
Posts: 2154
Loc: calling with the nuts
Re: When do move up from NL25? [Re: Anacardo]
      #4369327 - 01/06/06 03:09 PM

Q: What's the proper bankroll for each limit?

A: General consensus is that a player should keep at least 20 buyins for each limit he's playing. Excluding poor beginner play, bad bankroll management is the biggest reason that new players go bust. Do yourself a favor and only play in games you can afford.

Limit: $0.01/$0.02 | Needed: $40 ($100 on Stars)
Limit: $0.05/$0.10 | Needed: $200
Limit: $0.10/$0.25 | Needed: $500
Limit: $0.25/$0.50 | Needed: $1000
Limit: $0.50/$1.00 | Needed: $2000
Limit: $1.00/$2.00 | Needed: $4000
Limit: $2.00/$4.00 | Needed: $8000


Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
thedustbustr
Carpal \'Tunnel


Reged: 09/01/05
Posts: 8556
Re: When do move up from NL25? [Re: mosuavea]
      #4371928 - 01/06/06 07:55 PM

According to Fim's excellent reply (scroll up), you don't need 20 full buyins at SSNL if you know yourself to be a winning player. Of course, if you have to ask this question you probably haven't got the history to prove yourself a winning player.

Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
Checkov
newbie


Reged: 12/01/05
Posts: 34
Re: When do move up from NL25? [Re: Anacardo]
      #4679246 - 02/08/06 04:41 AM

What does PTBB stand for?

Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
Niediam
Carpal \'Tunnel


Reged: 01/16/05
Posts: 4269
Loc: Michigan
Re: When do move up from NL25? [Re: Checkov]
      #4679369 - 02/08/06 05:12 AM

Poker Tracker Big Bet... or x2 the big blind.

Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
jd_poker
member


Reged: 08/28/05
Posts: 167
Loc: Cambridge, UK
Re: When do move up from NL25? [Re: Niediam]
      #4735477 - 02/13/06 08:06 PM

why am i playing $1/$2 limit if a 10PTBB/10 is sustainable at NL?!?!

Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
BalugaWhale
Busto on tatas


Reged: 01/25/06
Posts: 4869
Loc: blog: http://letsdosomethingcr...
Re: When do move up from NL25? [Re: jd_poker]
      #4735763 - 02/13/06 08:38 PM

First off, this is an amazing thread.

Secondly, only move up when you feel comfortable with your bankroll. I moved up to 50NL at $500 and played weak-tight as hell, so I had to drop down after I was down 150 bones.


Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
Riddick
banned


Reged: 11/20/05
Posts: 2712
Re: When do move up from NL25? [Re: Niediam]
      #4736012 - 02/13/06 09:03 PM

While we are on the subject, what are some attainable winrates at Pot Limit 25's and 50's?

Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
Niediam
Carpal \'Tunnel


Reged: 01/16/05
Posts: 4269
Loc: Michigan
Re: When do move up from NL25? [Re: jd_poker]
      #4740380 - 02/14/06 05:02 AM

Because they do not have the same level of difficulty.

1/2 limit is the 2nd smallest level on Party but 1/2 no limit is the 4rd smallest level. A lot of B&M poker rooms have 3/6 as the smallest limit game but 1/2 as the smallest no limit game.

In addition, you need a larger bankroll for NL. The standard for limit is 300BBs but for NL it is 2500BBs (25 buyins).


Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
ski
Carpal \'Tunnel


Reged: 02/26/06
Posts: 2810
Loc: Leaving Thailand soon.
Re: When do move up from NL25? [Re: fimbulwinter]
      #4877581 - 02/26/06 04:13 PM

BUMP,

I am just reading this for the first time.

There are somethings I don't understand though.

"- a PFR from you doesnt always mean AA-JJ and AQs+"

Currently (200NL) it means one of these hands for me about 80-85%, the rest is PP/SC/Ax or broadways in LP/occasionally a plain steal. I am still ~16-20% PVIP depending on the game

"- your lines don't define your hand"
This is probably big enough to write a book on but isin't this entirely dependant on how intelligent your opponents are?

Sometimes I think that if I was playing against a clone of myself, I would know 100% if I am beat or not in some situations. However, this requires an in depth knowledge of my game that very few players have. Do many players have this type of knowledge at 1000NL?

I miss you fim.


Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
Pages: 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | >> (show all)



Extra information
0 registered and 60 anonymous users are browsing this forum.

Moderator:  Isura, orange, ajmargarine, 4_2_it, Matt Flynn, Sunny Mehta, Mike Haven 

Print Topic

Forum Permissions
      You cannot start new topics
      You cannot reply to topics
      HTML is disabled
      UBBCode is enabled

Rating: *****
Topic views: 22559

Rate this topic

Jump to

contact us 2+2 Publishing

Powered by UBB.threads™ 6.5.5


Message Boards and Forums Directory

Pages provided by ConJelCo